[MidwestCatLady]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

You're rambling. You're not supposed to translate the Bible. You're just supposed to read it and follow it and hope that Jesus doesn't strike you dead too young.

Well, I am old as dirt. So, I guess I missed the dieing young part. I could not translate the Bible and do not want to or even argue about it. If reading it and following it were easy, we would all have a free ticket to heaven. Somehow I do not think that is the case.

I am still looking for some resources on proof of angels. . . Anyone?

[Ocidnac]

Re: How can we stop the Smartypants?

Make them drink Ra-juice, that will make 'em see that 1+1= 12 as it is proven with the formula that Troevius gave us!

[Nobar King]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

You're rambling. You're not supposed to translate the Bible. You're just supposed to read it and follow it and hope that Jesus doesn't strike you dead too young.

[MidwestCatLady]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Well, I am nondenominational so what should I call it. By not picking a faith, the best term I could think on the fly was Agnostic. However, I do believe just as stated and quite strongly. My faith is 100%.

I differ with you guys on the science part and probably quite a bit more than I'd like to say as your group has defined your lives by your faith. I have not - at least yet. I do NOT think science ALWAYS contradicts scripture. Although I do believe some people are struck down by disease due to their own evil. I also believe as mortal beings, we are subject to diseases. It is what makes us human. It is why we have the power to choose and the ability to care for the sick, to purify water, to manufacture food, to communicate on the Internet or to publish a book.

I will say I did nothing about my "miracle" until I was struck down by a terrible near fatal disesae. So, there is something to your thoughts and I am living proof. However, I am not willing to say ALL disease is a result of personal evil. It might be the result of our overall stupidity or lack of appreciation for this magnificent planet. But "ALL" - that's a big term. A lot to grasp.

Similarily, I do not think because I believe the sun is 93 zillion miles away and the planets revolve around it, this proves that God does not exist. I did read what some of the other posters have pointed out in the King James version and do not see a conflict. I think we could argue semantics and symbols and various dual meanings to words which would prove fruitless because I respect your beliefs. I have never traveled beyond our world and looked back to see if what I learned in science class was true.

However, suppose you look at a blueprint with a circle drawn on the surface. Are you looking at a circle, a ball or a cylinder? Could you be looking at all of them based on your perspective and the type of information given? This is how I believe there arrises conflict not just between you and I but between all religions and beliefs. Babel at its best. We are all looking at the same thing but based on the information we are given, we translate it into something different - only its not. It is the same picture/image described by different people. You are looking at the world through the eyes of a total spiritual experience. I am not but it does not make view any less breathtaking or any less real.

Sin will always be sin and I am not trying to sugar coat evil or nonbelievers. But sometimes even believers see a cylinder while another sees a circle and they both would be right.

Does this make any sense or am I rambling?

[Nobar King]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Another scientific consensus bites the dust

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

You work in medicine?! Don't you have any faith in the Lord? That's the only remedy a person needs!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Well, making money isn't the bigger problem anymore. I like to earn it as much as anyone. It is rampant greed problem anymore. I like to earn it as much as anyone. It is rampant greed and dishonesty that has put us where we are. Somehow money seems to have a lot of power but perhaps only to the Godless.

I agree 100%. It is the rampaging greed of the secularist left that is destroying our society with their nanny state handouts to the wicked poor. The way they have persecuted hard working wealth creators like Madoff just chills me to the bone.

You have quite the sense of humor. Your explanation regarding the stars and the sun were also enjoyable and interesting. I was not aware of that differences in religous literature. Science of course, does not distinguish.

Er thank you but you do realize we are only following the teaching of The Bible.?It is the scientists who come up with this nonsense of stars trillions of miles away to promote their theory of evolution so they make us animals.

I like your comment on science. I do not think all science believes this. I work in medicine and most of the surgeons I know fully admidt to God having power over life and death. They pray before every surgery and they are men of science. Personally, I think we are very different than any animal here. We are the only reason for the Earth to even be. But none of this makes science evil - it just means some people are evil. Some people have lost the ability to communicate and to fold conflicting ideas into two sides of the same coin.

While there are good and true Christian scientists most are just tools of Satan who refuse to believe the truths God has written on their very hearts! Science is evil and wrong when it contradicts Holy Scripture and makes up nonsense about disease being caused by little animals and not God’s wrath upon sinners. As a Christian I have no time for this nonsense that illness is caused by things no one can see and only men with special knowledge can cure.

I will laugh for a moment now because my cats believe they "own" me. I am their caretaker but that is my job. They are my reason to be.

Friend, Christ is your reason to be. Your cats can’t save you from hell.

BTW I am puzzled at your name. You clearly believe in God yet you call yourself an agnostic. You do realize an agnostic doubts the existence of God?

[MidwestCatLady]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Since when has making money been evil? Christ Himself is a freemarket, supply side capitalist. No the TRUE sin of science is them asserting we are not some special creation but just another animal.

Well, making money isn't the bigger problem anymore. I like to earn it as much as anyone. It is rampant greed and dishonesty that has put us where we are. Somehow money seems to have a lot of power but perhaps only to the Godless. You have quite the sense of humor. Your explanation regarding the stars and the sun were also enjoyable and interesting. I was not aware of that differences in religous literature. Science of course, does not distinguish.

I like your comment on science. I do not think all science believes this. I work in medicine and most of the surgeons I know fully admidt to God having power over life and death. They pray before every surgery and they are men of science. Personally, I think we are very different than any animal here. We are the only reason for the Earth to even be. But none of this makes science evil - it just means some people are evil. Some people have lost the ability to communicate and to fold conflicting ideas into two sides of the same coin.

I will laugh for a moment now because my cats believe they "own" me. I am their caretaker but that is my job. They are my reason to be.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Why is this important? This thread lost me completely. It is not in the Bible. I hate science for very different reasons than you, but mostly because a lot of it is twisted. Studies are molded to suit whatever outcome the author wants and what some marketing department wants to make money on.

Since when has making money been evil? Christ Himself is a freemarket, supply side capitalist. No the TRUE sin of science is them asserting we are not some special creation but just another animal.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Why is this important? This thread lost me completely. It is not in the Bible. I hate science for very different reasons than you, but mostly because a lot of it is twisted. Studies are molded to suit whatever outcome the author wants and what some marketing department wants to make money on.

As a matter of fact, it is in the Bible. Genesis 1.

However, it is pretty clear the sun is 93 million miles from Earth and its light takes 500 seconds to reach us. There is your 500. If it were only 500 miles away we would get sucked into the gravitational pull of such a large star. It would also throw off all planetary analysis of our entire solar system which in no way would or would not prove or disprove God. Yes, I saw the E= mc squared thread. I don't know if you realize this but Hawking in his masterpiece A Brief History of Time says there is most certainly single Great Creator.

The Bible says the sun is only a light that is in the sky. At night, it moves down below the horizon. In Joshua, God manages to prolong the day by holding the sun in place, which would be impossible if in fact we orbited the sun, and would also throw off your "planetary analysis", and yes therefore would indicate the Bible is a lie and disprove God.

By the way, Stephen Hawking is a God-mocker who is headed for hell: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...tephen+hawking

Kelvin is used to measure light temperature sources and not distance. There is no way to use Kelvin to determine linear distance only to discover topography using harmonics and at the microscopic level. I enjoy mathetical challenges, but this one is just not a reality. The closest equation I found is nearly a book long (really). The sun is a yellow dwarf star that is a fact. How this does or does not enter into the heaven, hell, Jesus, God, prophecy equation has me baffled. God created the Universe. Do we really care how far away the stars are? I am just grateful to see them and feel the light of the sun on my face.

The sun is not a star. The Bible clearly states the sun and the stars are different things. The stars are just little balls of light. They often move around in special ways that allow people to tell the future (though you should only do so when God approves of it), and they can even move specifically to guide people to a special place. One day, at the end of the world, the stars are all going to fall from the sky and crash into the Earth, This would all of course be impossible if stars were giant balls of gas billions of light-years away.

If you are looking for flawed science and lies, I could tell you how we are being taken for a big ride for the almighty dollar and most of the data used to decide our basic healthcare and our fate are flawed and twisted and no one cares. It's not the scientists you have to worry about it is who's paying them.

Who's paying them? I bet it's the Jews!

[JennyD]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

Hah, I'd rather not read through the swab of crap that's been posted already, i"ll just post my additional swab of crap even if it's been posted a dozen times.

Typo corrected.

[MidwestCatLady]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

As a matter of fact, the sun is only 500 miles from the earth.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showt...ighlight=miles

Why is this important? This thread lost me completely. It is not in the Bible. I hate science for very different reasons than you, but mostly because a lot of it is twisted. Studies are molded to suit whatever outcome the author wants and what some marketing department wants to make money on.

However, it is pretty clear the sun is 93 million miles from Earth and its light takes 500 seconds to reach us. There is your 500. If it were only 500 miles away we would get sucked into the gravitational pull of such a large star. It would also throw off all planetary analysis of our entire solar system which in no way would or would not prove or disprove God. Yes, I saw the E= mc squared thread. I don't know if you realize this but Hawking in his masterpiece A Brief History of Time says there is most certainly single Great Creator.

Kelvin is used to measure light temperature sources and not distance. There is no way to use Kelvin to determine linear distance only to discover topography using harmonics and at the microscopic level. I enjoy mathetical challenges, but this one is just not a reality. The closest equation I found is nearly a book long (really). The sun is a yellow dwarf star that is a fact. How this does or does not enter into the heaven, hell, Jesus, God, prophecy equation has me baffled. God created the Universe. Do we really care how far away the stars are? I am just grateful to see them and feel the light of the sun on my face.

If you are looking for flawed science and lies, I could tell you how we are being taken for a big ride for the almighty dollar and most of the data used to decide our basic healthcare and our fate are flawed and twisted and no one cares. It's not the scientists you have to worry about it is who's paying them.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

so god magically pays for you electric bill each month? because last time i checked, light came from manufactured light bulbs powered by electricity, or that giant yellow dwarf thats 1.496 × 1011m away.

As a matter of fact, the sun is only 500 miles from the earth.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076&highlight=miles

[The13thDeciple]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

tisk tisk tisk

i will be LOLing when you guys all die and just rot in your graves.

and i didnt think you bible thumpers used such harsh language; i was deeply offended when i got a pm from the cult leader using foul language and telling me to suck jesus's ****.

]Listen up maggot: This is a Christian forum. We do not allow unsaved scum

[Nobar King]

Re: How can we stop the Scientists?

and your an idiot.

At least I don't write like an idiot.

open a book sometime, it has nothing to do with photography.

Are you sure?