[JennyD]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Brethren, I see that one of Petal's "classmates" at the re-education camp rehabilitation center has wandered into the computer lab.

Could someone help him back to his cell room?

[311Sam]

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God is so good

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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You alone are my strength, my shield, To You alone may my spirit yield

Moving... very moving... but the relevance is? The lessons of to be learned are...?

[311Sam]

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You alone are my strength, my shield, To You alone may my spirit yield

[R-R-R]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

science is mainly right on certan facts

Well, the big issue here is that deduction is actually a method of false extrapolation. If you drop a pen, it 'falls' to the ground, correct? Of course it does. Now, if you did this a thousand times in a lab, it would fall a thousand times as well, yes? Now, if you drop a pen, will it fall to the ground? It is to be expected that it would. But the emphasis is on expected. We think the pattern that we think we've seen before will continue to exist, that seeming regularities will remain regular.

Science seeks to find these patterns, describe them, and then tries to predict the outcome of future scenario's based upon past regularities. The main issue is though that it could change. 'But why would it change so drastic? It makes no sense, that never happened before, did it?' you'll say...

So it can describe past events fairly nicely, and it can be useful for practical applications. The very computer we type and read this on is a result of such developments. But when it comes to proving or disproving the existence of God, science is lacking immencely. What cannot be counted, measured or otherwisely perceived does not exist to science.

So science can be good to a certain extent, yet they claim it to be next to God. They act as if they know everything or will eventually know everything given enough time and research. Science is to be perceived just like most religions. It claims it's own God (in case of science that is the scientists who do the research), claim their own Scripture is infallible (in case of science this is all the published research that is widely accepted amongst aforementioned scientists) and they are hostile towards other, competing religions that might hog their 'followers' (that's why science tries to debunk faith-based religions).

The issue remains, science cannot prove nor disprove God's existence, whilst there is one book that can; the KJV1611. Ignoring its importance or claimng it to be a useless or not even usable source is just one of the mechanism by wich science tries to collect its victims...

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

science is mainly right on certan facts, and the reason they do not like scripture is that it cannot be proven and simply relies on thinsgs that cannot be explained without hard core facts (scientist dont count the bible as a source of facts) if there was hardcore facts that proved the bible was right then scientist would work with it.

if you want to convert scientist then prove the bible is right by bplaying their game using their methods, if you simply note their mistakes and from that say "the bible is right" that will never fly in the educated world.

"go to heaven for the climate, and go to hell for the company"
--- Mark Twain

Friend, your spelling, but even more so your sentence construction, is truly horrendous. You sound like a nigra.
Try to improve it, as Jesus hates lazy people on welfare.

In any case.. Here's a better idea:
If they can prove science is right without using science, I'll prove the Bible without using the Bible.
I'm getting quite fed up with their circular reasoning!
All the time it's "Science say we come from rocks who've become monkeys and finally us..
And that's true, because science says so." (or as they like to call it: "proves it.")


That anyone could ever fall for their irrational and circular "logic", is beyond me.

[Alaric Reinner]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

science is mainly right on certan facts, and the reason they do not like scripture is that it cannot be proven and simply relies on thinsgs that cannot be explained without hard core facts (scientist dont count the bible as a source of facts) if there was hardcore facts that proved the bible was right then scientist would work with it.

if you want to convert scientist then prove the bible is right by bplaying their game using their methods, if you simply note their mistakes and from that say "the bible is right" that will never fly in the educated world.

"go to heaven for the climate, and go to hell for the company"
--- Mark Twain

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Now that this has been settled, we can get back on the topic of Hell.

The tortures of eternal damnation are almost unspeakably horrible. Thank God I am a White American True Christian™ Manly Republican.

[R-R-R]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Sorry, I took your post to be defending "ScIeNce" instead of promoting good and pure Biblical values.

Now that this has been settled, we can get back on the topic of Hell.

[Brother V]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

I hope this was somewhat understandable. To summarize; Scienctists act as though they know it all, or will eventually be able to know it all, yet I have realised science is to be rebuked and not perceived as a way to replace Scripture or the Lord. This has become increasingly clearer to me over the past months...

Sorry, I took your post to be defending "ScIeNce" instead of promoting good and pure Biblical values.

1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Praise Jesus!!!

YIC
V

[R-R-R]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Well said Mr. R. Amen!

Thanks Pastor Ezekiel.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Well said Mr. R. Amen!

I follow the Word of God. God never changes. These scientists force their latest "facts" down our throats every day, then turn around and change them later. 100 years ago, it was a "fact" that mankind couldn't fly. These days Pastor Pistle jets off to tropical climes every week, in order to spread the Good News about Jesus amongst the young islanders. Praise Jesus!

God never changes.

[R-R-R]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

So, what you were saying in the first paragraph, was that scientists don't know much.

Well, they claim to know much, but in fact there is no actual truth. The best science can do, if they would be honest enough to admit it, is a probability close to certainty. But not certainty itself, never can science be 100% sure.

They KNOW for a fact that the Bible (KJV1611) is wrong; but they aren't sure exactly how things work?

Well, I didn't say that. And I didn't mean to say that even if it came over as such. I meant to say that science assumes Scripture to be incorrect because it cannot be falsified. A statement such as 'all birds can fly' can be falsified (disproven) because there is the possibility you could find a non-flying bird (a penguin for example). A statement such as 'the Scripture is wrong' cannot be potentially falsified because it is the absolute TRUTH.

Yet it cannot be scientifically (dis)proven as long as it isn't falsifiable, hence science's disliking towards spiritual matters such as religion. This solely shows where science lacks, nothing more. Science isn't as perfect as they try to make it appear. They use math as a way to 'prove things beyond doubt', in a similar way True Cristians can know things beyond doubt because they have faith in God. The only difference is that science is based upon humans and their experiences (the research they do) and thus can have errors, while God is never wrong. So his followers have a more solid base to rely on regarding what they believe in, compared to scientists.

You (and scientists) claim to have fact and "truth" until the "facts" and the "truths" don't make any sense, then you try to find new "facts".

Well, I do not claim to have truths... I merely explained a bit about the scientific way I was used to follow as a contrast. I have seen the error in science's ways, it's imperfections and failures. Remember what the R-R-R stands for.

Though for a better understanding about the scientific method (so we can more easily rebuke it) you should realize that the scientific way to attempt to find truth is uses the following steps;

1) State a hypothesis (for example, all birds can fly)
2) Try to find a non-flying bird
3) If you find

A] no non-flying birds, you either
- need to look further, or
- assume your theorie (initial statement/hypothesis) is correct

B] at least one non-flying bird you can throw your hypothesis in the trashbin and start over again at step 1.

Often science claims to have found 'truth' even though the latter of A is the case and they have no real guarantee that they can be certain. This is an obvious imperfection in science...

I hope this was somewhat understandable. To summarize; Scienctists act as though they know it all, or will eventually be able to know it all, yet I have realised science is to be rebuked and not perceived as a way to replace Scripture or the Lord. This has become increasingly clearer to me over the past months...

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

Where in the text stands that Hell is proven?

Scroll up in the thread, the websites are listed.

[Peter]

Re: Scientists Baffled by Discovery of Hell

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070305/..._expedition_dc



Stoopid scientists! You should have spent more time studying the Bible (KJV 1611) than your stupid science books! I say we should burn all the science books in town!

Where in the text stands that Hell is proven?