[Levi Jones]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Ah but Zeldafan, perhaps you should always be prepared to give an explanation for the hope that you have!

You should head to the introduction forum, friend. Tell us about yourself, so we can properly greet you.

[Woman in the well]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Ah but Zeldafan, perhaps you should always be prepared to give an explanation for the hope that you have!

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

We do not suffer fools gladly here, son. Keep a respectful tongue in your mouth when adressing your betters.




That is the most accurate statement you've made thus far.

Are you even a Christian? Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

This is a Christian forum, not a high school science debate.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone. Oh you're not better than me by the way.

Please be respectable to me though and don't mock my answers, Jesus never mocked me!

I'm sorry, I completely forgot to introduce myself I don't have a very good attention span lol I'll do that now friend

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

...Who is who? Lol, "dude"?

I'm referring to the poster I was responding to.

We do not suffer fools gladly here, son. Keep a respectful tongue in your mouth when adressing your betters.

I have no clue.

That is the most accurate statement you've made thus far.

Are you even a Christian? Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

This is a Christian forum, not a high school science debate.

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

No, one is the truth the other is a lie. How can they be on the same coin like you say. Now, Brother Bathfire brought it up earlier and you've failed to answer it: How can you reconcile Darwinist evolution with a literal Genesis creation?

Now, don't say, "Maybe God influenced evolution, and the Genesis account was a metaphor...". No. Because that's not reconciling the two, that's actually destroying both viewpoints! In Darwinian evolution, there is no room for God. Species change by natural selection, not by intelligent design!

So how can Darwinist evolution and a literal Genesis creation both be right without changing anything on either side?

If I knew the answer to that I would probably be a billionaire lol. No one does.

Oh, they ARE two sides of the same coin whether you like it or not. We are ALL part of this world and everything in it, you are just as much part of science as I am, same goes for religion. We are all one and the same...know what I mean?

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I'm not sure what magic was around 1,000 years ago - give me a clue? Do you mean something like demon possession? I don't see much progress in that area from science.

If you put "maybe" in a sentence, you can write any amount of garbage.

Speculation of the future is ungodly.Personally, I'd have thought that someone like you would want to be sent to hell for something a little more substantial than that but all ways down the broad path appear good to some.

"Magic" 1,000 years ago was definitely not possessions or any BS like that man, lol. I mean things that we can explain today...like fire, weather, bodily functions, anatomy. Those things and how they worked were commonly explained through "magic".

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Not so much "the same" as they are two pieces to the same puzzle, two sides of the same coin.

No, one is the truth the other is a lie. How can they be on the same coin like you say. Now, Brother Bathfire brought it up earlier and you've failed to answer it: How can you reconcile Darwinist evolution with a literal Genesis creation?

Now, don't say, "Maybe God influenced evolution, and the Genesis account was a metaphor...". No. Because that's not reconciling the two, that's actually destroying both viewpoints! In Darwinian evolution, there is no room for God. Species change by natural selection, not by intelligent design!

So how can Darwinist evolution and a literal Genesis creation both be right without changing anything on either side?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Basically what I'm trying to say..."magic" 1000 years ago is our science today. So maybe 1000 years from now, our "magic" today will be their science.

Anyone agree/disagree? Let me know!

I'm not sure what magic was around 1,000 years ago - give me a clue? Do you mean something like demon possession? I don't see much progress in that area from science.

I didn't even bring evolution into this? Lol wtf?

I'm saying...MAYBE...1000 years from now, science and religion will understand each other and be able to live in harmony.

If you put "maybe" in a sentence, you can write any amount of garbage.

Speculation of the future is ungodly.

If that sends me to Hell, then I guess that's where I should go!

Personally, I'd have thought that someone like you would want to be sent to hell for something a little more substantial than that but all ways down the broad path appear good to some.

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

First off, let's forget the imaginary notion of "science" vs. "religion". Both encompass too general of topics. So let me ask you which of the following are you trying to say?

Creation Science and Christianity are BOTH right.

Secular Science (Darwinism, old-earth geology, etc.) and Christianity are not both right. Only Christianity is.

Creation Science and Islam are not both right. Creation Science is, Islam is not.

Etc.

I think what you mean to say is Secular Science and Christianity are the same. Which they are not. Is this what you're trying to tell us?

Not so much "the same" as they are two pieces to the same puzzle, two sides of the same coin.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

There's other routes it could go though, maybe science and religion are BOTH right, I guess is what I'm trying to get at

First off, let's forget the imaginary notion of "science" vs. "religion". Both encompass too general of topics. So let me ask you which of the following are you trying to say?

Creation Science and Christianity are BOTH right.

Secular Science (Darwinism, old-earth geology, etc.) and Christianity are not both right. Only Christianity is.

Creation Science and Islam are not both right. Creation Science is, Islam is not.

Etc.

I think what you mean to say is Secular Science and Christianity are the same. Which they are not. Is this what you're trying to tell us?

[JennyD]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

There's other routes it could go though, maybe science and religion are BOTH right, I guess is what I'm trying to get at

There are no other routes.

The only alternative is to deny God's Truth.

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I've already told you the only way that will work.

Science must recognize that it is working to understand and make the best use of God's Creation.

There's other routes it could go though, maybe science and religion are BOTH right, I guess is what I'm trying to get at

[JennyD]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I didn't even bring evolution into this? Lol wtf?

I'm saying...MAYBE...1000 years from now, science and religion will understand each other and be able to live in harmony. If that sends me to Hell, then I guess that's where I should go!

I've already told you the only way that will work.

Science must recognize that it is working to understand and make the best use of God's Creation.

[Zeldafan]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Oh, I don't know, what about squaring Satan's lie of evolution with God's Perfect Creation?

I didn't even bring evolution into this? Lol wtf?

I'm saying...MAYBE...1000 years from now, science and religion will understand each other and be able to live in harmony. If that sends me to Hell, then I guess that's where I should go!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

[...] Ezekial, what sort of example do you want? [...]

Oh, I don't know, what about squaring Satan's lie of evolution with God's Perfect Creation?