[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Listen Nietzsche, my nilhilist friend:
Nobody stated that nature was perfect, (except you in your convoluted argument) only that God's plan is perfect...Read my boy! And don't forget that chaos is perfect symmetry!
And "all things can be dirived mathmatically"....Except a unified theory!
It sounds good to banter about thermodynamics but only if the laws are applied empirically!
In short, any replies given by a person calling himself Nietzsche amount to, by definition, nothing!

What do you mean no unified theory exists? M-theory certainly is unified, just untested.

I equally never claimed nature to be perfect. Perfect implies a lack of characteristic flaws or shortcomings, and the question then asks itself- what in our universe is a flaw? There's no measuring device that can gauge the universe's inheirent perfection, and neither is there any way of really saying there's a flaw, as there is no norm to compare our universe to.

But to claim that universe was created specifically for the benefit of humanity is terribly arrogant and displays substantial disregard for the principles on how the universe operates.

[Jizzy Bull]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

[QUOTE=ChristiC;416471]1 Kings 18:13
Haven't you heard, my lord, what I did while Jezebel was killing the prophets of the LORD ? I hid a hundred of the LORD's prophets in two caves, fifty in each, and supplied them with food and water.


It is amazing to me that you caught that obscure allusion to Ahab's damned wife but the bible verse you attempted to blast me with is a bit limp. Jezebel was indeed hated by one prophet in particular and when she died, her body was thrown to the ground and her blood lapped by dogs!
Sorry you don't like a bit of irony with your forum fodder, but if you don't mind me saying so (and even if you do) your name is a bit pretenious wouldn't you say especially for one so serious.
"I realise I am nothing here, but you... damn "
You are not a nihilist too are you?

[ChristiC]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Listen Nietzsche, my nilhilist friend:
Nobody stated that nature was perfect, (except you in your convoluted argument) only that God's plan is perfect...Read my boy! And don't forget that chaos is perfect symmetry!
And "all things can be dirived mathmatically"....Except a unified theory!
It sounds good to banter about thermodynamics but only if the laws are applied empirically!
In short, any replies given by a person calling himself Nietzsche amount to, by definition, nothing!

1 Kings 18:13
Haven't you heard, my lord, what I did while Jezebel was killing the prophets of the LORD ? I hid a hundred of the LORD's prophets in two caves, fifty in each, and supplied them with food and water.

Jezzy Bell is not that good a screen name hunny bun. I realise I am nothing here, but you... damn

[Jizzy Bull]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

What, because of the intricacy of nature? But everything reduces down into mathematical principles, and with these, all things can be derived.

By definition, the universe is only perfect by the standard determined to be perfection. And yet, it is far from perfect by any engineering standard, as it is built in with an eventual heat death that will reduce the sum total of all things in our universe into leptons, neutrinos, and quarks, slowly moving into a state near absolute zero as entropy continues to increase.

The expansion of the universe too, grows ever close to ripping everything in the cosmos apart.

Far from perfect, the universe is more a time bomb, and we are strapped to it.

Listen Nietzsche, my nilhilist friend:
Nobody stated that nature was perfect, (except you in your convoluted argument) only that God's plan is perfect...Read my boy! And don't forget that chaos is perfect symmetry!
And "all things can be dirived mathmatically"....Except a unified theory!
It sounds good to banter about thermodynamics but only if the laws are applied empirically!
In short, any replies given by a person calling himself Nietzsche amount to, by definition, nothing!

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I just noticed the lovely designation you bestow upon newbies on this forum. I am guessing it is meant as a challange to reveal the assurance I have that such an epitaph is unture. Thankfully, my Father in heaven knows and as that is all that matters, why be so hateful to someone merely seeking fellowship? And right off the bat?

My comment on the discussion thread: Often, the more people study science, the more it brings them overwhemingly to Intelligent Design. The only possible conclusion to be reached in the quest for scientific knowledge is that the genesis of the universe consists of a Creator God with an ultimate (perfect) plan for all levels of His creation from the macro to the micro and which (praise His Name) includes a plan for the salvation of sinful mankind. I think that the post at the beginning shows true insight into the nature of the reconcilliation between science and religion: the two are really two approaches to the same questions, namely where did we come from and why are we here???? Christians know the answers by faith and scientists search for them by empirisim (the antithesis to faith.) However, not all who study science are secular humanists; some of us don't need to experience our creator with our limited five senses to know that He is very real and at the center of all creation.

What, because of the intricacy of nature? But everything reduces down into mathematical principles, and with these, all things can be derived.

By definition, the universe is only perfect by the standard determined to be perfection. And yet, it is far from perfect by any engineering standard, as it is built in with an eventual heat death that will reduce the sum total of all things in our universe into leptons, neutrinos, and quarks, slowly moving into a state near absolute zero as entropy continues to increase.

The expansion of the universe too, grows ever close to ripping everything in the cosmos apart.

Far from perfect, the universe is more a time bomb, and we are strapped to it.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Ah, yes. I recall reading how thousands were amazed by the Magical Gaseous Emission. And who could forget the Turd of Turin?

What ARE you yammering about, boy? "Magic" bodily functions??

He's clearly a retard. And we know that retards are empty shells possessed by a demon. I think that's explaination enough and no amount of future science is going to explain his behavior.

[JennyD]

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"Magic" 1,000 years ago was definitely not possessions or any BS like that man, lol. I mean things that we can explain today...like fire, weather, bodily functions, anatomy. Those things and how they worked were commonly explained through "magic".

Ah, yes. I recall reading how thousands were amazed by the Magical Gaseous Emission. And who could forget the Turd of Turin?

What ARE you yammering about, boy? "Magic" bodily functions??

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Word up, g-money. (I like to start off speaking their language, it really helps to lighten the mood).

Y'see, homey, science and religion truly are the same thing to people. Are you telling me that when scientists say that we descended from monkeys they're not furthering their anti-god agenda? Because that's what it is: these "high priests of science" are taking everything in the Bible and turning it topsy-turvy on itself to try to serve their master, Satan.

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

What's wrong with being clever?

All I'm saying is maybe science and religion can hopefully be united. Nothing wrong with having hope!

No, what you are saying is that science will completely overshadow religion. You aren't clever at all. Your motives are blatantly obvious. Religion is incompatible with science. Science is a system of ever changing beliefs, were True Christianity is a system based on the absolute infallible unchanging Word of God, the Creator of All.

[Woman in the well]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Mr. Jones:
I ask that you read my introduction as you requested. Have I offended you in some way? I would like a response in kind. I posted a response to the subject under discussion. Any comment on that?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

There's other routes it could go though, maybe science and religion are BOTH right, I guess is what I'm trying to get at

Insofar as science and religion agree with the King James Bible, they are both right. Insofar as they disagree with that source, they are both wrong. Yes, it is that simple.

[Levi Jones]

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Mr. Jones:
My post should reveal at least something about me. If I am remiss, then please allow me to introduce myself: I am the Woman at the Well. Christian. Over 21. American (by birth and by my Father's grace.) Seeking a fellowship of believers. Bible Student. Biologist. And you are?

Sister please, follow this link and start a new thread.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=16

[Levi Jones]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I just noticed the lovely designation you bestow upon newbies on this forum. I am guessing it is meant as a challange to reveal the assurance I have that such an epitaph is unture.

This is exactly the case, friend. I started off labeled as unsaved trash a mere 3 months ago.

I exhort you to make an introduction.

I look forward to fellowship with you. You will find that we are extremely reasonable and friendly to a fellow seeker who follows the proper protocol.

I can't wait to meet you, is it sister or brother? I would kindly ask you to tell us about what Church you attend, your favorite Bible Verses and etc.

[Woman in the well]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

Mr. Jones:
My post should reveal at least something about me. If I am remiss, then please allow me to introduce myself: I am the Woman at the Well. Christian. Over 21. American (by birth and by my Father's grace.) Seeking a fellowship of believers. Bible Student. Biologist. And you are?

[Woman in the well]

Re: Religion and Science....uh oh!

I just noticed the lovely designation you bestow upon newbies on this forum. I am guessing it is meant as a challange to reveal the assurance I have that such an epitaph is unture. Thankfully, my Father in heaven knows and as that is all that matters, why be so hateful to someone merely seeking fellowship? And right off the bat?

My comment on the discussion thread: Often, the more people study science, the more it brings them overwhemingly to Intelligent Design. The only possible conclusion to be reached in the quest for scientific knowledge is that the genesis of the universe consists of a Creator God with an ultimate (perfect) plan for all levels of His creation from the macro to the micro and which (praise His Name) includes a plan for the salvation of sinful mankind. I think that the post at the beginning shows true insight into the nature of the reconcilliation between science and religion: the two are really two approaches to the same questions, namely where did we come from and why are we here???? Christians know the answers by faith and scientists search for them by empirisim (the antithesis to faith.) However, not all who study science are secular humanists; some of us don't need to experience our creator with our limited five senses to know that He is very real and at the center of all creation.