[The_Unspoken]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Ok Mr I-Need-Proof, explain this

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Proverbs 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

Daniel 4:10 Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.

Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Pretty overwhelming I would say that the earth is flat.

lol...what do you want to proof with that? that you life in the past?
at the time this textes were written noone could get around the world (there were no planes/cars/etc) just feet and horses...maybe ships, but they never planned to go there...they were scared about what they may find...like you...you close your eyes for the truth...u live in a fairy tale

[GOD=life]

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500 miles? are you crazy? we would burned to death and no live would be possible

That is only if you assume that it is incredibly hot. It's not. Read the whole thread. The Pastor has made scientific calculations. It's impossible to make a fire that's so hot that you will burn 500 miles away.

the sun is visible from earth glowy red to bright yellow...

Well, obviously we see the sun from different angles throughout the day. I don't need an instrument to figure that one out. Btw, your article did not use the correct term: it's Rayleigh scattering.

It also did not mention the correct formula:


I really don't mind discussing science with you, but I feel you won't be able to understand the mathematics behind it...

and for all who think the world is flat and has ends where you can fall into space...

Unless you can show me that you can stand on the ceiling of your living room, I don't really see how you can make such an argument and not laugh at yourself.

if you are on a tower or in a plane you can see the horizon getting round...not a straight line...

Well, when we say the world is flat, we don't mean perfectly flat like a mirror. Of course there are mountains and hills. I can't see past 10 miles? Why? BECAUSE THERE'S A MOUNTAIN IN THE WAY.

and google earth is counter-god?

Go to google.com and type in "christianity is" and wait a second. Then you will see what Google thinks about Christianity and God. They are very biased, that's proven FACT.

[The_Unspoken]

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We are talking the earth, not a baseball friend.

that doesnt change anything...show me a picture about the end of the world...taken with camera of course...i can paint anything :/

[stkelly728]

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LOL!!! the earth is flat? now i have never been to space so how could i know right? you said the reason why we cant see the end of this flat earth is because its so far away... OMG! thats little kid logic. grow up and start thinking all your answers through. so whats your theory on this? we are at the center of this flat earth? we dont have devices that could help us see farther. maybe we could go to the top of a high mountain and use one of these devices and i could see everything right? bwahahaha. so does everyone that has ever been in a plane, do they know the earth is flat but they have to keep it a secret?

[A Follower]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

500 miles? are you crazy? we would burned to death and no live would be possible

No, have you ever been outside? You don't burn to a crisp when you go outside, so the sun is not that hot. Spectrography has shown the surface of the sun to be about 5700 K, hot enough to warm the world from 500 miles, but nowhere near the temperature to wipe out all life.

mh..did you ever think about athmosphere?
the sun is visible from earth glowy red to bright yellow...depends on rotation of earth...
if the uv-light has a longer distance to your eye the sun appears red...shorter distance means yellow...

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=280

Are you seriously claiming that if the sun is a hundred million miles from earth it's going to matter whether the light has to travel a few thousand miles more depending on rotation of earth?

Nonsense, the only way such a short distance could have an influence on the color of the sun is if the sun is no more than a few hundred miles away.

And you think that uv light appears red or yellow to your eyes? Here is a hint: uv light is invisible, and the closest visible color is purple.

and for all who think the world is flat and has ends where you can fall into space...
why is it possible to fly with plane from:
usa->russia (left)
usa->asia (left)
usa->australia (left)
wouldnt they fell off the flat earth?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/World_map_pol_2005_v02.svg/800px-World_map_pol_2005_v02.svg.png

You can certainly fall of the earth, but it takes a lot of effort, because you have to climb over the "south pole", which is the edge of the world.

And you can go from any country to another because the north pole is at the center of the earth, that's why compasses can point north from any place on earth and it doesn't matter where you come from, if you travel there you'll end up at the same place as anyone else who travels north.



Did you know many airliners even fly over the north pole to shorten their trip?

See this image that shows plane trips from China to the US going over the north pole, because that's the most direct route.

and did you ever heard of "expedition to the end of the earth?" or doku´s about "looking from the edge into space" xD
that would be hilarous

Have you even read the titles of the documentaries you promote? End of the earth: clear proof that earth has an end, and what will you find at the end of the earth: Edge of space.

if you are on a tower or in a plane you can see the horizon getting round...not a straight line...

and google earth is counter-god? they made a earthball in google earth...guess why...yes...100 points...its a ball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxbIJH4fTYo

that is our planet...nothing else

Could you provide any real evidence to back that assertion up? Here is a picture I just took, I live reasonably high up a hill, far higher than a tower, and from what I see the world is not round at all:

[The_Unspoken]

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thats...incredible...you dont even gave me 1 good and logic proof that the earth is flat...
mountain in the way? dumb? whats when you fly over oceans? ah..the waves..i understand

you cant proof anything...youre just talking about the book of the books...but its old, its not correct in scientific, astronomy and many other things...they didnt had the equipment to say earth is round/flat or how far the sun is away...

and im not talking about hot fire...you know how a microwave works?

and btw...whats with merkur? its closer to sun than we are...so...mekrur is 250 miles away and sun 500? *sigh* if i were you i would go out, take a plane and fly around the earth...you will see its round...

Unless you can show me that you can stand on the ceiling of your living room, I don't really see how you can make such an argument and not laugh at yourself.

? why should i ? is earth a closed room? does the earth (if its flat have a "cage" around it, preventing you/water/birds/etc from falling down?

[stkelly728]

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that chinese image is not your proof. again like a child. think about it with your god given brain. if the image just showed direct straight lines the picture would be harder to view and not as appealing to the eye. common sense would tell us thats not the exact route they will be following. if you folks must reply to logic use some logic.

[GOD=life]

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thats...incredible...you dont even gave me 1 good and logic proof that the earth is flat...

When I look to the side that doesn't have a mountains, I see a rather flat terrain. I it were round, I would not. The horizon is horizontal. Everything checks out.

Scientists are known to falsify data and reports. They even faked a moon landing 40 years ago when flying up that high was technically impossible. But hey, when YOU believe other people based on their authority, then it's OK, right?

Why not look this up in Google: authority fallacy

That's what you're using for your "proof" that the earth is not a circular disc.

mountain in the way? dumb? whats when you fly over oceans? ah..the waves..i understand

I flew once. NEVER AGAIN. God does not intend us to fly, simple as that. When I looked out of the window, I saw clouds. FROM ABOVE! Guess what?

H O R I Z O N T A L

Sure, there may "seem" to be some distortion but that's because of perspective effect: the further away an object, the smaller it is. I can demonstrate this mathematically if you want.

preventing you/water/birds/etc from falling down?

Birds don't fall down because they flap their wings to generate thrust. Unless you flap your wings at the bottom of the earth, you will fall down. You can simulate this by trying to sit on your ceiling: you fall down.

[Cranky Old Man]

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its not correct in scientific

So you believe anything a scientist will say? Without using your own God given brain? You believe the great global warming hoax? Even though there are piles of evidence of scientists falsifying results to get more money?

People with a brain are obviously disagreeing with you: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6999975.ece

But go ahead, believe whatever scientists want you to believe. It's your life, it's your soul, it will be your eternal damnation.

[The_Unspoken]

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No, have you ever been outside? You don't burn to a crisp when you go outside, so the sun is not that hot. Spectrography has shown the surface of the sun to be about 5700 K, hot enough to warm the world from 500 miles, but nowhere near the temperature to wipe out all life.

microwave effect...the earth´s athmosphere is saving us
and you forget the size of the sun...



a lighter with a few hundreds degree flame doesnt warm me...right...its like standing in front of a fire made of 1pound wood and a fire made of 10000000 pund of wood...same distance to that fire and you will feel the difference

Are you seriously claiming that if the sun is a hundred million miles from earth it's going to matter whether the light has to travel a few thousand miles more depending on rotation of earth?

Nonsense, the only way such a short distance could have an influence on the color of the sun is if the sun is no more than a few hundred miles away.

it matters, because the space is "empty" and the earth has a barrier (athmosphere) where the light have to travel through

You can certainly fall of the earth, but it takes a lot of effort, because you have to climb over the "south pole", which is the edge of the world.

bwahahahah...what???? xD
did you ever heard about the equator?

And you can go from any country to another because the north pole is at the center of the earth, that's why compasses can point north from any place on earth and it doesn't matter where you come from, if you travel there you'll end up at the same place as anyone else who travels north.


Did you know many airliners even fly over the north pole to shorten their trip?

See this image that shows plane trips from China to the US going over the north pole, because that's the most direct route.

first picture shows earth´s north pole from above and second picture shows earth´s front-view (north=northpole; south=southpole)
nobody flys over the northpole xD, or did you? xD
the lines are 3d...they make a bow to show the correct line, becouse the plane cant fly through the ground...
did someone of you fly from usa to europe or russia or asia? did you see the north pole below you? no? of course not...

Have you even read the titles of the documentaries you promote? End of the earth: clear proof that earth has an end, and what will you find at the end of the earth: Edge of space.

the titles were fiction...you will never hear about something like this, because its impossible...earth has no end

Could you provide any real evidence to back that assertion up? Here is a picture I just took, I live reasonably high up a hill, far higher than a tower, and from what I see the world is not round at all:

thats exactly what i mean...you cant see further...why? the earth is round...if the earth would be flat...you could see the next land

[A Follower]

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that chinese image is not your proof. again like a child. think about it with your god given brain. if the image just showed direct straight lines the picture would be harder to view and not as appealing to the eye. common sense would tell us thats not the exact route they will be following. if you folks must reply to logic use some logic.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/11/bu...l?pagewanted=1

http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/40943.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_route

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ZCK/is_8_9/ai_53916413/

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/item.aspx?ak=68495594.blog&type=blog

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1790046

Typical atheist: thinks he's smart, but doesn't know a thing. If you need more convincing I can post thousands of additional links.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

thats exactly what i mean...you cant see further...why? the earth is round...if the earth would be flat...you could see the next land

How far away would that land be? You DO understand how perspective principle works, right?

The far away land would look like this: ________

You know why? Because objects that are far away are smaller. It's because of how projection in the eye works.

And BTW, this is the correct map you should have if you are HONEST:

[The_Unspoken]

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When I look to the side that doesn't have a mountains, I see a rather flat terrain. I it were round, I would not. The horizon is horizontal. Everything checks out.

and the water fell into space?

Scientists are known to falsify data and reports. They even genuined a moon landing 40 years ago when flying up that high was technically impossible. But hey, when YOU believe other people based on their authority, then it's OK, right?

how far is the moon away from earth? i expect that moon flys around earth right? so if the sun is 500 miles away (just the half way from germany to france) it has to be closer...and this my dear is not "technically impossible" whats with satellites? are they 10 miles away? xD
how do you thing gps or cell phones work? cable in earth? WRONG!!! satellites

I flew once. NEVER AGAIN. God does not intend us to fly, simple as that. When I looked out of the window, I saw clouds. FROM ABOVE! Guess what?

thats sad...if there were no clouds you had seen it...but it seems like you will die without knowing the planet you life on...
i travel a lot...i was in north/south america, europe, asia, russia, australia, africa...i never saw something like "the end"

Birds don't fall down because they flap their wings to generate thrust. Unless you flap your wings at the bottom of the earth, you will fall down. You can simulate this by trying to sit on your ceiling: you fall down.

try to generate trust with wings in space without air...show me

[stkelly728]

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LOL YOU STUPID MAN!! the link you provided says- "Study Finds Air Route Over North Pole Feasible for Flights to Asia" feasible. meaning can be done. not meaning the only route since you must cross the north pole to get to the other side of your flat earth...OMG JUST THINK LOGICALLY BEFORE YOU POST. im agnostic. i have have no beliefs. im not a follower to what someone or some book told me to be true. i believe what i know. i have not a clue what happend the day before i was born so i will not tell you i know what happened. i was told what happened. if i introduce you to a man and told you he is my father and showed you his birth certificate social security card his credit cards to "prove" he is my father and tons of people to back it up and say yeah thats his father, would you say you know you met my father? or would you have just met a man?

[The_Unspoken]

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How far away would that land be? You DO understand how perspective principle works, right?

The far away land would look like this: ________

You know why? Because objects that are far away are smaller. It's because of how projection in the eye works.

And BTW, this is the correct map you should have if you are HONEST:

woooooot...which braindead invented that thing????
the worlds diameter is ~50.000 km

again...take a plane...fly from alaska to japan ( you dont fly over north pole...you fly over "the end" xDDDDD

thats so hilarous how resistant you are to the easiest things...that things kids learn early...