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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    ...Since it apparently does exist all matter that is here in this collective dimension has been here and always will...
    Science disagrees. A snippet, in nice easy language, from On the shores of the unknown by Joseph Silk, about one of the effects of quantum dynamics (I've highlighted the salient bits):

    "The quantum theory asserts that a vacuum, even the most perfect vacuum devoid of any matter, is not really empty. Rather the quantum vacuum can be depicted as a sea of continuously appearing and disappearing [pairs of] particles that manifest themselves in the apparent jostling of particles that is quite distinct from their thermal motions. These particles are ‘virtual’, as opposed to real, particles. ...At any given instant, the vacuum is full of such virtual pairs, which leave their signature behind, by affecting the energy levels of atoms."

    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED_vacuum
    I could go on, but frankly, trying to really understand that stuff hurts my brain even more than reading Gnostic literature (and that's saying something).

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  • Sammy The Penitent
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    It's great to learn. Being able to pass down the knowledge of the world will aid our future generations in the advancement and progression of our kind.
    Dear Murdy,

    To learn what? That the so called scientists are wrong again? (Please read the thread Science get's it wrong YET AGAIN!!! ) They can't agree on anything for more than a minute without finding fault with their current line of reasoning.

    Do you really want to feed this ever changing clap-trap to your children when the Bible provides all the answers you need?

    Romans 1:20
    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    YIC

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  • murdythenumbskull
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    It does not require a creator, that only postpones the debate of existence. You could believe that and consequently ignore every paradox that it raises, but it will not be what I and the majority of the world will follow.

    The universe will not be as complex as you think it to be, all you have to do is get the drive to discover it's nature.
    It's great to learn. Being able to pass down the knowledge of the world will aid our future generations in the advancement and progression of our kind.

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  • Pim Pendergast
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    Actually I explained it thoroughly, if the universe did not exist there would be no matter. Since it apparently does exist all matter that is here in this collective dimension has been here and always will.
    Rom 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

    Creation is evidence of God's existence. Life and the universe is so complex that we know it must have had a Designer. Life could not just have evolved. The universe could not just have always existed. Both require a Creator. And God, who is more complex than we could possibly comprehend or anything we might encounter in nature, was that Creator. God is eternal. He wasn't created.

    Ps 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou [art] God.

    So my legitimate non-trick question is if God is what created all existence, then what created God?

    Super-God? What created him? Ultra-God? Can't you see the silly redundancy of covering up real answers with made up stories?
    I think you've answered your own question. Obviously that would be impossible.

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  • murdythenumbskull
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    Actually I explained it thoroughly, if the universe did not exist there would be no matter. Since it apparently does exist all matter that is here in this collective dimension has been here and always will.

    So my legitimate non-trick question is if God is what created all existence, then what created God?

    Super-God? What created him? Ultra-God? Can't you see the silly redundancy of covering up real answers with made up stories?

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  • Paragon of virtue
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    We of the Christian faith are honest. We have faith in a benevolent loving God who takes care of his own to the point of dying (and returning) for us. We name it and claim it true. It's beyond "science". Secularists can call it "supernatural" and we own it. Evilusionists on the other hand start in with the double talk. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, according to the Evilutionist. Then asking where the "first" matter came from is a legitimate, non-trick question. If the Evilutionist is true to himself, and apart from God how could you expect sinful man to be truthful at all?, he has no answer for this. Put it simply, God wins again!!

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  • NathanBrigsby
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    In response to you and your fellow evolutionists Murdy, I direct you to Isaiah 56:10
    His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    Why do you keep bringing up bestiality and gay buttsex. Are you too busy fantasizing about gayfers and donkey screwing that you can't focus and stay on topic for one post?
    And why are you here spewing hatred on God's favorite forum? Piss off!

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  • murdythenumbskull
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    Why do you keep bringing up bestiality and gay buttsex. Are you too busy fantasizing about gayfers and donkey screwing that you can't focus and stay on topic for one post?

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  • NathanBrigsby
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    Hmm Murdy. What you call legitimate sources clearly come from monkey-raping darwinists who just want to justify their beastality tendencies. The fact you have AIDS clearly means you've been jumping into some butt enzymes as well so how can you have any educational values when all you have on your mind is gay sex in this case? Sodomites are never to be trusted or taken seriously.

    1 Kings 14:24
    And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.

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  • murdythenumbskull
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by NathanBrigsby View Post
    A quick inference to MurdyTheFrog. How can anything you say and do have ANY credibility when you've been branded with Satan's AIDS virus?
    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    if requested I will give legitimate sources.
    ^
    I like my aids and homer icons they are quite awesome.

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  • NathanBrigsby
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    A quick inference to MurdyTheFrog. How can anything you say and do have ANY credibility when you've been branded with Satan's AIDS virus?

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  • murdythenumbskull
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Yet you believe that at some point in time (specifically, at the beginning of time) that entire infinity was condensed into a space smaller than head of a pin.
    Time can lead on for infinity just as the dimensions of the universe can lead up to infinity, numbers can also work this way. You can make a number so close to zero, and then keep going. You can make a number as large as you want, and keep going. Infinity is relative to the matter time and dimension that holds the universe together, so yes, changing it to the size of a pinhead would not be destroying anything. In fact black holes do it all the time.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    All that talk doesn't explain, where did matter come from? How can you create something from nothing - without a God?
    Matter cannot be created. If this universe was not here, the matter would not be either.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    You are not answering the question: where did the first life come from - how did the transition from inorganic to organic happen? I think that in labs you can create basic aminoacids, but the next step?
    I told you from the structuring in the nuclei. Proteins provide the information and vehichles for all the work done, carbon structures create the organic membranes which are there workspaces.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    wait, wait, what? How were they developed? From what?
    Protein? Strands put together of nucleotides, the sequences fit with bonds and eventually complete large circuits of information like programs.


    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    I thought that evolution assumed no participation of God?
    What did the first cell reproduce, are you asking me to tell you the name of the first cell that ever existed in the universe was? There is no classification of it. Please take this seriously

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    You do realize that according to Darwinian theory, the mutations happen by chance - which means that in case of"abundance of land and shortening frontier of water" most species will simply die out, not adapt.
    And when the mutations do happen in probability, what makes them stand out and survive from being stronger and well adapted...?

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    No, you shouldn't
    My answer was also No inferred by the follow up sentence of I guess...

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Isn't the evolution supposed to be based on evidence, not belief?
    It's my opinion and what I believe, so yes.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Umm... don't protozoa (e.g.: amoeba) ring a bell?
    Those are both of the Protista kingdom...moving on.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Darwinian and Lamarckian theories in one sentence, that must be a new record
    growth of legs would either, thanks for reading.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Aren't you supposed to say something about dinosaurs with feathers and Archaeopteryx?
    Dinosaurs could have most likely been feathered or partially feathered, we cannot positively determine that without a completely frozen specimen, as all we have is bone remains.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Avoiding the answer again
    I answered Why and How, When and Where are completely irrelevant, could be anywhere from 250 Mya to 4000 years ago, either way I guarantee man did not record his first feelings on any kind of scripture like a boy band does.

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    So what was before Big Bang? Where did all the "everything" come from?
    Possibly from a giant black hole, possibly from another universe. I know I won't be saying Harry Potter or any magical being waved his wand and poof everything in the universe existed, because that explains everything doesn't it?

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Oh, really?
    Faith means you are willing to full-heartedly believe something without any reassurance that it is actually right. Commitment means you will see to it that your goals will be met.

    I really am sorry for all the grammatical mistakes. I have a lot of misused comma situations and semicolons that I did correct at one point but copied over the massive questionnaire and didn't realize they were all re-mistaken again. Like all those questions without question marks
    For instance I put an It in front of Archaeologists. A to was supposed to be a too. Carbon and Carbon and Oxygen molecules, should just be one carbon.

    Oh well that's what I get for not having my excellent grammatically correct girlfriend not look it over before I submit Thank you for reading and critiquing.

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  • Basilissa
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Goodness gracious, you should be in Congress. You have an innate ability to produce lengthy documents with lots of words and zero meaning.

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    The space in the universe is infinite, you can't reach an end of it. Only being able to be further from one origin to another.
    Yet you believe that at some point in time (specifically, at the beginning of time) that entire infinity was condensed into a space smaller than head of a pin.

    2. Where did matter come from?
    It is believed to be a singular point of matter that chain reacted, whether it was the foundation of the universe or the excretion of another is undecided. However there are also theories on colliding systems of matter that interact violently and created an explosion a supernova pales to. My opinion if it matters to you(no pun intended) is that of not distinguishing a single smallest particle, unlike the string theory and god particle(boson), I believe that matter retracts infinitely at any point, becoming smaller and smaller to indistinguishable areas. In my mind an entire solar system can exist at the end of a hair. Not that I literally think of that at every end of hair, but in a matter-wise relation that's how I regard matter and the density of particles.
    All that talk doesn't explain, where did matter come from? How can you create something from nothing - without a God?

    6. When, where, why, and how did life come from dead matter?

    It isn't necessarily dead matter, more of developing nuclei and other membranes to send signals to different parts of the cells. I don't think you can pin a when or where to this as it could occur on any planet. The way all the cells handle ATP, cellular respiration, and the conversion from the nutrients the specific cell handles to the adenosine triphosphate and wasted molecules in this reaction all give the organism this piece of life. From this point the enzymes that code and construct DNA and RNA give instruction to send out to major celled organisms and store all the information that is critical to the processes of growing.
    You are not answering the question: where did the first life come from - how did the transition from inorganic to organic happen? I think that in labs you can create basic aminoacids, but the next step?

    7. When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

    When and where again not necessary. After chromosomes were developed... blah blah...
    wait, wait, what? How were they developed? From what?

    8. With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

    Would have to be there? I'm not a man with a time machine. Maybe God can relay the answer to you so you can let me in on this.
    I thought that evolution assumed no participation of God?

    10. How can mutations (recombining of the genetic code) create any new, improved varieties? (Recombining English letters will never produce Chinese books.)

    No, DNA does not work like characters. Let's say there is an abundance of land and a shortening frontier of water. A mutation of boney more endurant fins would benefit the ability to attain a new food source on land.
    You do realize that according to Darwinian theory, the mutations happen by chance - which means that in case of"abundance of land and shortening frontier of water" most species will simply die out, not adapt.

    11. Is it possible that similarities in design between different animals prove a common Creator instead of a common ancestor?

    Is it possible that if the world was not ever frozen over and there were no arctic critters created that they would not be able to adapt with new coats of fur, habits, diets, migrations, or hibernations? I guess I shouldn't answer with a question.
    No, you shouldn't


    I believe it is very possible for animals to have a common ancestor.
    Isn't the evolution supposed to be based on evidence, not belief?

    b.) The animal kingdom does not have a single celled organism
    Umm... don't protozoa (e.g.: amoeba) ring a bell?

    c.) Fish could have advanced into amphibians for many reasons, food sources, climate changes, predatory levels, comfortableness after mutations. They all describe the situations that persisted after countless relentless decades of trial and error, natural selection doesn't tend to be an overnight sequence. The growth of legs would either be a mutation or reinforced muscle developed by these creatures.
    Darwinian and Lamarckian theories in one sentence, that must be a new record

    e.) Birds are determined by archaeologists to be in between the Paleozoic and Mesozoic eras which is when dinosaurs were in existence, and before the smaller reptiles were around. There structures were the products of those immediate ancestors breaking into new ground just like the fins developing into pedal laying feet. Comparing nesting traits is one way to link these groups into a more relative timeline.
    Aren't you supposed to say something about dinosaurs with feathers and Archaeopteryx?

    18. When, where, why, and how did man evolve feelings? Love, mercy, guilt, etc. would never evolve in the theory of evolution.

    Technically they can, say you wouldn't know mercy without brutality, or love without a companion, or do you believe deceit was a feeling an action before jealousy or any motive for it existed?
    Avoiding the answer again

    26. Do you honestly believe that everything came from nothing?

    Nothing came from nothing.
    So what was before Big Bang? Where did all the "everything" come from?

    2. Do your answers show more or less faith than the person who says, "God must have designed it"?

    My answers show less faith, but more commitment.
    Oh, really?

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: 20 Questions For Evilutionists

    Originally posted by murdythefrog View Post
    ...P.S. Sorry for my lengthy responses :0
    That's the same score I give it: 0

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