[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

So why have monkeys stopped evolving? Why did being in our part of your family tree mean that we improved, learned to use tools and language etc?

Wouldn't those things have been beneficial to monkeys? Or did 'natural selection' chose that picking at your arse and masturbating up a tree were more important skills for the survival of the species?


No, here is the answer,

Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.


All animals stay within their 'kind'.

YIC

Jack

Of course they didn't. They still evolve. To better monkeys, just like people evolve to better people, cockroaches to better cockroaches and sharks to better sharks. And occasionally, when the changes are obvious enough, we arbitrarily call this better animal a new species.

Evolution doesn't decide anything. It is just a process that makes all living things more suited for their environment, which monkeys are. The simple fact that they are still here is obvious enough. Evolution has no specific goal in mind, because it is a reactive process to environmental conditions. Intelect is just one way of many to go.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Of course they didn't. They still evolve. To better monkeys, just like people evolve to better people, cockroaches to better cockroaches and sharks to better sharks. And occasionally, when the changes are obvious enough, we arbitrarily call this better animal a new species.

And yet the young generation are not better than their parents and grandparents and great grandparents. They're increasingly lazy, spoiled, entitled and falling away from God to be goth-dorks. And who wants better cockroaches anyway? What kind of a messed up idea is that?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Of course they didn't. They still evolve. To better monkeys, just like people evolve to better people, cockroaches to better cockroaches and sharks to better sharks. And occasionally, when the changes are obvious enough, we arbitrarily call this better animal a new species.

Evolution doesn't decide anything. It is just a process that makes all living things more suited for their environment, which monkeys are. The simple fact that they are still here is obvious enough. Evolution has no specific goal in mind, because it is a reactive process to environmental conditions. Intelect is just one way of many to go.

But according to you our "common ancestor" all lived in the SAME environment

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Of course they didn't. They still evolve. To better monkeys, just like people evolve to better people, cockroaches to better cockroaches and sharks to better sharks. And occasionally, when the changes are obvious enough, we arbitrarily call this better animal a new species.

Evolution doesn't decide anything. It is just a process that makes all living things more suited for their environment, which monkeys are. The simple fact that they are still here is obvious enough. Evolution has no specific goal in mind, because it is a reactive process to environmental conditions. Intelect is just one way of many to go.

I think you will believe anything. Just because it's written down by Stephen Dawkins doesn't mean it's true. Only a fool would just blindly accept what they read in a book.
Show me one example of an animal giving birth to another species and I will listen. Micro evolution happens, macro evolution just doesn't.

[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

And yet the young generation are not better than their parents and grandparents and great grandparents. They're increasingly lazy, spoiled, entitled and falling away from God to be goth-dorks. And who wants better cockroaches anyway? What kind of a messed up idea is that?

People are increasingly lazy and yet progress is increasing exponentionally. People are falling away from all gods, because they don't present any advantage for survival. I can just as easily find a mate for reproduction when I believe and when I don't believe. In fact doubting used to be an evolutionary disadvantage, while now it is more of a stepping stone.

And who wants better cockroaches? The cockroaches of course. They want to survive just as well, you know. Evolution doesn't care about what you like or wish, just like the ground doesn't care that you will break your arm when you fall on it.

But according to you our "common ancestor" all lived in the SAME environment

Actually they didn't hominids that eventually became people lived in african savanah and as you can see, this place isn't ridden with monkeys these days. On the other hand jungles are and people did not evolve in jungles.

[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

I think you will believe anything. Just because it's written down by Stephen Dawkins doesn't mean it's true. Only a fool would just blindly accept what they read in a book.
Show me one example of an animal giving birth to another species and I will listen. Micro evolution happens, macro evolution just doesn't.

Interesting way to kill all Bible based arguments

And I will show you such thing. On the very day when biologists will correct the concept of evolution to include this. Right now this argument has no validity, because nobody claims that evolution works like this.

And micro evolution directly leads to macro evolution. Even many miles long journey can be made by making many small steps. It is completely intellectually dishonest to deny it.

[Nobar King]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

You seem to think that the Bible is just 'a book'. It's not. It's the true word of God as dictated to His scribes. God is the author. God could have written an infinite number of books, but he chose to give us this one.

Calling the Bible 'a book' is like calling the president 'a citizen'.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Interesting way to kill all Bible based arguments

And I will show you such thing. On the very day when biologists will correct the concept of evolution to include this. Right now this argument has no validity, because nobody claims that evolution works like this.

And micro evolution directly leads to macro evolution. Even many miles long journey can be made by making many small steps. It is completely intellectually dishonest to deny it.

The Bible is not just a book, it is the word of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

YIC

Jack

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

People are increasingly lazy and yet progress is increasing exponentionally.

Progress in scaring children about "global warming." Progress in making abortions increasingly safe and less invasive with convenient pills sold at the pharmacy rather than focusing on abstinence education. Progress in computer technology that brings information around the world in real time which only serves to make pornography easier to get into homes. Sure, if that's progress, it serves only the Devil.

People are falling away from all gods, because they don't present any advantage for survival.

That's why our calling as True Christians is so important. One's survival may not depend on their belief in God, but their eternal salvation DOES!

And who wants better cockroaches? The cockroaches of course. They want to survive just as well, you know. Evolution doesn't care about what you like or wish, just like the ground doesn't care that you will break your arm when you fall on it.

Thank you for illustrating why atheists have no moral value. To you a cockroach is just as important as a human, and a human in pain (with a broken arm no less) means nothing to you.

[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

So you believe Bible, because it is word of God. And the source from where you take this information, Bible.

So Bible is true, because it says it is true.

I wonder how many people outside of those who already are chrstians can you convince with such circular arguments.

BTW Quran claims it was written by Allah, Tripitaka was written by Buddha and I think I don't even want to start with jews, who have pretty much the same basic text. So why would neutral person prefer Bible over Quran?

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

So you believe Bible, because it is word of God. And the source from where you take this information, Bible.

So Bible is true, because it says it is true.

I wonder how many people outside of those who already are chrstians can you convince with such circular arguments.

BTW Quran claims it was written by Allah, Tripitaka was written by Buddha and I think I don't even want to start with jews, who have pretty much the same basic text. So why would neutral person prefer Bible over Quran?

So you have clearly lost your argument on evolution so want to divert the subject of the thread. Do you think we are stupid?

YIC

Jack

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Interesting way to kill all Bible based arguments

And I will show you such thing. On the very day when biologists will correct the concept of evolution to include this. Right now this argument has no validity, because nobody claims that evolution works like this.

And micro evolution directly leads to macro evolution. Even many miles long journey can be made by making many small steps. It is completely intellectually dishonest to deny it.

Oh, you God-haters. Always moving the goal posts when your guesswork and conjecture is challenged.

Can you show me the proof that any new species had parents? Of course you cannot.

"Millions of years, small changes, yap yap yap". What monkey lives for a million years?

I'd rather trust the Word of God in all it's beautiful and simple truth than guessing games by those that hate Him.

In Christ

[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

Oh, you God-haters. Always moving the goal posts when your guesswork and conjecture is challenged.

Can you show me the proof that any new species had parents? Of course you cannot.

"Millions of years, small changes, yap yap yap". What monkey lives for a million years?

I'd rather trust the Word of God in all it's beautiful and simple truth than guessing games by those that hate Him.

In Christ

Nobody moved anything. I simply corrected very common mistake among people who don't properly understand evolution.

What we can easily prove is how the changes in genetic structure happen. You can easily trace those back.

And of course you can always use argumets the other way around. Did you ever saw an animal being created and not born?

PS: I don't hate any god. God, Allah, Loki or Zeus. I have no reason to.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

people who don't properly understand evolution.

That's probably why you accept it.

But according to you our "common ancestor" all lived in the SAME environment

Actually they didn't hominids that eventually became people lived in african savanah and as you can see, this place isn't ridden with monkeys these days. On the other hand jungles are and people did not evolve in jungles.

The evolutionist tells us that we are the sole surviving member of our genus.

Even your own burbled statement recognises that hominids that eventually became people AKA our "common ancestor" all lived in the same environment viz in african savanah and that there aren't any other descendants except us:

it isn't ridden with monkeys these days

OUR "COMMON" ANCESTOR DOESN'T HAVE ANY DESCENDANTS EXCEPT US

WE are that "common ancestor" and we are just the same as we have always been since God made us c6,000 years ago (except that we die now because of sin).

The evolutionist knows that, but has to rationalise the fact somehow so that satan will continue to provide little rewards and here is the latest bilge from that quarter (don't bother reading too much it will all be different in a year or two:

The genus is estimated to be between 1.5 and 2.5 million years old.
All species except Homo sapiens are extinct.

I particularly like that last bit. Humans are unique BUT ALL OUR SUPPOSED ½ to ¾ ANIMAL RELATIONS ARE CONVENIENTLY EXTINCT

like, did you get that? ALL OF THEM 100% ZILCHO KAPUT
"survival" of the fittest yeah....


GENESIS 2
4 ¶These are the generations of the heauens, & of the earth, when they were created; in the day that the LORD God made the earth, and the heauens,
5 And euery plant of the field, before it was in the earth, and euery herbe of the field, before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to raine vpon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went vp a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a liuing soule.
8 ¶And the LORD God planted a garden Eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
©1611

Later on God made a woman. How did Adam "emerge" surviving as "the fittest" if he was the only one? Where were the ones who "didn't survive" since there were no females to produce them?

We read your imaginary pipedreams AND God's word. We can always answer you. You can never answer us. You evidently read NEITHER of these things and surely it would be helpful for you if you checked out some of God's instruction manual for life, the life He created, before naysaying His Just Law and denouncing His Inerrant Word?

Begin reading here

[Professor Logic]

Re: If we came from monkeys, why don't we have tails?

That's probably why you accept it.

I do accept it, because I actually know what it is about. Case in point: I don't write misguided things about it. Nobody does himself a favour, by misinterpreting the other side. Others can't take such people seriosly.

The evolutionist tells us that we are the sole surviving member of our genus.

Even your own burbled statement recognises that hominids that eventually became people AKA our "common ancestor" all lived in the same environment viz in african savanah and that there aren't any other descendants except us:

it isn't ridden with monkeys these days

OUR "COMMON" ANCESTOR DOESN'T HAVE ANY DESCENDANTS EXCEPT US

WE are that "common ancestor" and we are just the same as we have always been since God made us c6,000 years ago (except that we die now because of sin).

The evolutionist knows that, but has to rationalise the fact somehow so that satan will continue to provide little rewards and here is the latest bilge from that quarter (don't bother reading too much it will all be different in a year or two:

I particularly like that last bit. Humans are unique BUT ALL OUR SUPPOSED ½ to ¾ ANIMAL RELATIONS ARE CONVENIENTLY EXTINCT

like, did you get that? ALL OF THEM 100% ZILCHO KAPUT
"survival" of the fittest yeah....


GENESIS 2
4 ¶These are the generations of the heauens, & of the earth, when they were created; in the day that the LORD God made the earth, and the heauens,
5 And euery plant of the field, before it was in the earth, and euery herbe of the field, before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to raine vpon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went vp a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a liuing soule.
8 ¶And the LORD God planted a garden Eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
©1611

Later on God made a woman. How did Adam "emerge" surviving as "the fittest" if he was the only one? Where were the ones who "didn't survive" since there were no females to produce them?

We read your imaginary pipedreams AND God's word. We can always answer you. You can never answer us. You evidently read NEITHER of these things and surely it would be helpful for you if you checked out some of God's instruction manual for life, the life He created, before naysaying His Just Law and denouncing His Inerrant Word?

Begin reading here

That is simply because all species related terms like genus are arbitrary cathegories that help us understand nature. Common ancestors of humans and apes lived together. Than the branch that became humans migrated to savanna, where the conditions alllowed only small group to survive. That group initially struggled until they hit evolutionary jackpot with intelligence. There are loads of evidence in the mytochondrial DNA.

Oh and BTW no that long ago, when human ancestors still weren't far from apes, They most likely still mated http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ns-chimps.html