Bible (TRUE) Age of Earth

[Remy Lebeau]

Re: Bible (TRUE) Age of Earth

Well, if a single part of the bible's claims of the world's age was supported by dated artefacts, I wouldn't say these things.

Dated at what age? 30 billion years? 3 billion years? 22 million? Your so-called scientist have so many dates that it is simply ridiculous. And where do they pull these numbers from anyway? All methods they use require the ASSUMPTION of the original amounts of elements within the studied material. Without a time machine to go back and verify the original element composition of the tested materials their conclusion are purely theoretical - mere theories. Your blind belief in these mortal human beings is extremely unintelligent even for a woman.

But there is *not* *one* *single* *piece* of archaeological evidence to support the bible's dates and times.

There is not one single piece of evidence to support your so-called scientists' "billion years" theories. As I have show above your so-called evidence is nothing but theoretical heresay.

There's more possible clues of aliens on the planet than there is evidence to support the bible, what does THAT say?

It says that you are talking out of your arse. YOU do not dictate to ME, or ANYONE ELSE, what is more probable, possible, or what has more or less support. You have already shown a clear bias against logic and reason. You prefer blind belief in fallible mortal homosexual men while I recognize the words of the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. GLORY!!!

Van Hellbound, you know I have never lost a debate and I've defeated you in debate on plenty of occasions. Do you really want to be made a fool of again?

[Joo (Quarantined)]

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That looks very conclusive to me Pastor.

I really don't see how the Monkey Worshippers can argue against such Biblical facts!
Who needs "Theories?"
NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS™

Because Biblical "Facts" aren't facts. They're assumptions derived from a collection of stories written across a long chunk of time by different authors then all slapped together into a single book.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Well, if a single part of the bible's claims of the world's age was supported by dated artefacts, I wouldn't say these things.
But there is *not* *one* *single* *piece* of archaeological evidence to support the bible's dates and times.
There's more possible clues of aliens on the planet than there is evidence to support the bible, what does THAT say?

[Remy Lebeau]

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I'm fairly sure your geographic location is quite far from mine, so, were any stray lightning-bolts to hit me, I'm sure you'd be quite safe.

In any case, do you see me trying to convert you? Nope, all I'm doing is stating what are common facts.
So there.

They aren't facts, sinner. They are ramblings of some nut in a lab coat trying to control the ignorant masses by pretending to know everything and be able to do anything under the guise of so-called "science". Nothing but unprovable theories.

Why is it when we state the Bible is a fact because its author, GOD ALMIGHTY, who was actually present at the creation of the universe is the one making the statements you claim that His eyewitness account is not factual.

Yet when some human being who has only been around for the past 40 years or so makes a claim about something that happened 6000 years ago it is a fact.

Do you not see how illogical your position is, Van Hellbound?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Honestly it does weigh on a person's nerves. It is only a matter of time before the Lord strikes that witch dead in her tracks, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near her when He throws that lightning bolt. Jesus will be here to Rapture us away any minute, and we are on fire for the Lord, trying to bring souls as depraved as hers to the Light. Unfortunately, with time so short, some methods have to be scratched.

I'm fairly sure your geographic location is quite far from mine, so, were any stray lightning-bolts to hit me, I'm sure you'd be quite safe.

In any case, do you see me trying to convert you? Nope, all I'm doing is stating what are common facts.
So there.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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So much for the whole "willing acceptance" approach, eh Zeke?

Honestly it does weigh on a person's nerves. It is only a matter of time before the Lord strikes that witch dead in her tracks, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near her when He throws that lightning bolt. Jesus will be here to Rapture us away any minute, and we are on fire for the Lord, trying to bring souls as depraved as hers to the Light. Unfortunately, with time so short, some methods have to be scratched.

Burning in hell, eternal damnation, being tortured by demons the size of a skyscraper, yada yada. All the standard stuff one would expect from not listening to their invisible friends.

I think maybe they should see a counsellor together, or just send Zeke off to a therapist.

Shows how much you know -- Brother Zeke is already a certified psychologist, specializing in the Ex-Gay ministry (Baptists Are Saving Homosexuals). He is certainly well-aware of himself, and needs no extra counseling. The Holy Spirit guides his every move, and somehow I suspect that some Jewish psychologist wouldn't keep him on the straight & narrow

[Unsaved and Loving It]

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Accept the Bible NOW, harlot! That's an order! I've had it with you!

So much for the whole "willing acceptance" approach, eh Zeke?

Or what? old :p

Burning in hell, eternal damnation, being tortured by demons the size of a skyscraper, yada yada. All the standard stuff one would expect from not listening to their invisible friends.

Listen here, Zeke, just because you haven't been able to spend as much time with BTB in your praise and shout glory to jesus sessions is no reason to get snappy.

I think maybe they should see a counsellor together, or just send Zeke off to a therapist.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Riiiiiight. And I suppose one of your woodsprite friends told you all this during your last forest orgy/baby sacrifice....

Nope, I found it out researching scientific findings. You could too, you know.

Accept the Bible NOW, harlot! That's an order! I've had it with you!

Or what?
Listen here, Zeke, just because you haven't been able to spend as much time with BTB in your praise and shout glory to jesus sessions is no reason to get snappy.

P.S. I'm not going to accept the bible, so please stop telling me to. It's most impolite.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Sorry, but the bible does not count as real evidence when real evidence (fossils etc) proves otherwise. The human race alone is far older than 6000 years. Hell, COCKROACHES have been around for hundreds of millions of years, a long time before humans.

Riiiiiight. And I suppose one of your woodsprite friends told you all this during your last forest orgy/baby sacrifice....

Accept the Bible NOW, harlot! That's an order! I've had it with you!

[Goatski]

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Case closed.

Poor poor intellectual ignoramuses. The Great Religious Texts delivered to this suffering humanity by great initiates of the Great College of Angels of the Great White Universal Fraternity of Ascended Master are meant to be comprehended with the superlative intuituion on the Being.

The first words of the Bible:

"Braisheeth bara Elohim."

“Be” = The
“Raishath” = "Higher, or Upper Wisdom,” which is related to the Sephirah Chokmah: the Cognizance that is always creating

So the proper Translation, according to Hebraic Kabbalah is:
"The Elohim of the Upper Wisdom(Chokmah, the Cosmic Christ) created the Heaven and the Earth."

The Seven Days of creation are not the creation of the Universe. For truly we gnostics know that the Universe has had many Mahamanvantara.

"...And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Earth = matter, physical body. In Kabbalah the Earth represents Malkuth(The Kingdom), the lowest Heaven which is the Physical bodies of the Mineral, Plant, Animal, and Human forms.

"..And the earth was without form, and void..."

The matter, the earth (physical body), that we have here and now, is without form, is disorganised, there is no psychological organization within us. When we examine our psyche through Meditation, we discover that within our psyche is not God, but the Ego (the devil).

We do not have even Tiphereth, the Human Soul, incarnated. We are beings without Human Soul, even though we have one small part of Tiphereth, Beauty, Soul, inside, which is the Consciousness, the Essence, the Buddhata.

The Buddhata is an embryo of soul; this embryo is trapped within Lust, Anger, Greed, Envy. etc., it is without form and void, in disorder (and the earth was without form, and void…).

There is no organisation in our psyche, it has no form.

"...and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

The deep is the Abyss in each of us: the subconsciousness/ unconsciousness/ infra-consciousness; it is the darkness within us.

If we start awakening the consciousness, then we will see light.

But at the moment we only see darkness inside. There is no Light, only disorder, and Emptiness, a Void. There is nothing there related to our Monad; the Buddhata disgracefully is bottled up within the animal ego, defects, vices, perversity, etc...

Fortunately, Genesis tells us how to initiate our interior organization and to make light within that darkness.

"And the Breath/Wind (Ruach) of the Elohim moved upon the face of the waters..."

The Solar Spirits (Ruach Elohim) finalizes its transformation (through the metabolism of the physical body) in the sexual waters. The Solar Spirit (Ruach Elohim) is the Christic Solar Substance within the sperm and the ovum that are floating upon face of the sexual waters of man and woman. Here in these Genesic Waters is the beginning of all life.

Sorry to burst your bubble concerning the age of the Cosmos seeing that Genesis is REALLY about development of the monads in accordance with their Glorian.

The true age of Euclud? More than 1 million years... more than 2 million... more than 3 million... getting warmer.... more than 5 million... warmer...

The true age of the Universe? Incalcuable. When the Ain Soph takes back in its manifested light and the Cosmic Night begins time ceases to have meaning or form. We have had many Comsmic Days and Nights. Hmm? The age of THIS Cosmic Day? Billions of years.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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Sorry, but the bible does not count as real evidence when real evidence (fossils etc) proves otherwise. The human race alone is far older than 6000 years. Hell, COCKROACHES have been around for hundreds of millions of years, a long time before humans.

[Talitha]

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That looks very conclusive to me Pastor.

I really don't see how the Monkey Worshippers can argue against such Biblical facts!
Who needs "Theories?"
NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS™

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Beginning with the archeological landmark event of the fall of Jerusalem (which has now been corrected to 588 B.C., instead of 586-587 B.C.) and counting backwards the prophesied number of years between this event and the division of Solomon's kingdom (390 yrs. + 40 yrs., according to Ezekiel 4:4-7), brings us to 1018 B.C.

From the end of Solomon's 40-year reign to the start of the Temple in the 4th year of his reign takes us back another 37 years to 1055 B.C.

From the start of Solomon's Temple "in the 480th year" (1 Kings 6:1) back to the Exodus from Egypt (hence 479 years previous) brings us to near 1534 B.C.

From the Exodus out of Egypt to Abraham's entering Canaan from Haran was exactly 430 years to the day (Gen 12:10/ Exodus 12:40/ Gal 3:17), thus around 1964 B.C.

Since Abraham entered Canaan at age 75 (Gen 12:4), he was born approximately 2039 B.C.

From Abraham's birth to Noah's grandson (Shem's son), Arpachshad's birth, 2 years after the Flood started, was 290 years (Gen 11:11-26), this places the onset of the Flood at around 2331 B.C. [definitely 4,300-4,400 years ago].

The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.

Therefore, the Biblical age of the Earth (using Scripture itself as a guide) is 6,000 years !! Mankind did not evolve 4 million years ago on an Earth which is 4.5 billion years old in a universe which was "big-banged" into existence 18-20 billion years in the distant past. Jesus Christ, the Creator Incarnate, said He made mankind male and female in the beginning (Mark 10:6), and that when the heavens and the earth were commanded into being (Gen 1:1), they "stood up together" (Isa 48:13) not billions of years apart !!

Case closed.