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  • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

    And again we see the typical scientologist's method of "debating": making vast claims about unverifiable subjects, and then using those unsubstantiated claims as evidence that they are right about everything.

    Let me ask: who says stars are larger than our sun? What has he done to prove that? Did he go to the stars with a measuring tape? If not, why would you believe him? Also, can you prove that the person you are blindly following into Hell has never lied? Has never been wrong about anything? If you can't say with 100% certainty that he has always been truthful and right about everything, than you can't trust what he says about stars either. Compare that to God who can be trusted to be correct and truthful, after all He created all those stars, He knows best.

    And if stars are so large, then how can they fit in earth's atmosphere? Didn't all the scientists claim that the shooting star that hit Russia a few months ago was no more than a few feet across? When did the shooting star change size from thousands of times the size of our sun to the size of a simple boulder? And how could the star have traveled all those hundreds of millions of light years if you scientists claim that traveling a lightyear takes at least a year?
    Leviticus 26:15-16
    And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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    • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

      Firstly is this a seriouse forum or just for jokes. Secondly Wow just Wow

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      • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

        Originally posted by Dave bob View Post
        Firstly is this a seriouse forum or just for jokes. Secondly Wow just Wow
        Friend, we are as serious as the Fires of Hell and the Love of God. Perhaps you are not used to be amoung honest people who do not pull punches and actually live according to how God wants.

        Tell me friend, do you love Jesus, I mean honstly love Him and are willing and able to do what He and He alone, tells you?
        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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        • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

          Originally posted by Dave bob View Post
          Firstly is this a seriouse forum or just for jokes. Secondly Wow just Wow

          Another Jesus hater.

          Mark 13:2 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

          Could that happen if the stars were as large as you say? Either you are a fool is sweet Jesus is a liar. You are the fool.

          Also if the stars were as large and far away as you say then could they rotate around the Earth in 24 hours? Can you imagine the speeds involved? That would surely break your precious 'speed of light' limit. Ludicrous. Everything you need to know is in the King James Bible, it's His instruction manual for us. I suggest you read it and accept Jesus' temporary sacrifice. If not you chose eternity in hell, your choice.

          YIC

          Jack
          Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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          I know God wouldn't let me believe in Him if He didn't exist.

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          • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

            Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
            I've just had a glanced at it. Rev. Jim Osborne has clearly shown he doesn't understand science or maths.
            I am a mere English major, and do not claim to an expert in Math, but I do know a few equations.

            1.Sinner + Jesus= saved

            2.Sinner - Jesus = damned

            3.Let X= Unrepentant Sin against God

            1X(Eternity + Hell) - hope of forgiveness = Albert the Lunkhead

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            • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              Why?
              The Mass in stars is determined by the size of their birthclouds. As the stars grow older, they generate heavier elements which in turn need higher temperatures to fuse and covert into heavier elements. This causes the star to expand and grow larger.

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              Why would God give us stars so big and then according to you...
              Why don't you ask him? Oh, wait, you can't.

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              ...ones that we cannot even see (hocus-pocus-Big woo??? )
              The light from far distance stars spreads out with the distance, making it so that only tiny fraction reaches us. Some stars are simply close enough or large enough than others, thus sending out more light.

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              You get more and more funny with every one of your posts.
              You get more and more dumber with every reply you post.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              And again we see the typical scientologist's method of "debating": making vast claims about unverifiable subjects, and then using those unsubstantiated claims as evidence that they are right about everything.
              Unsubstantiated claims? These are facts. There's a large number of evidence about this topic.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              who says stars are larger than our sun?
              Science.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              What has he done to prove that?
              I've been more rational than you guys. I have done experiments and observations to prove the truth etc.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Did he go to the stars with a measuring tape?
              Don't be an idiot.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              If not, why would you believe him?
              We have positive evidence.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Also, can you prove that the person you are blindly following into Hell has never lied?
              Everyone lies. Science doesn't lie. Why would I lie about my own career?

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Has never been wrong about anything?
              Of course. Everyone has been wrong about something, but you can't use this technique to prove me wrong, because it doesn't. Like I said, these are facts.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              If you can't say with 100% certainty that he has always been truthful and right about everything, than you can't trust what he says about stars either.
              That's a stupid way to look at it. Anyway, I don't need to be trusted. Look at the evidence.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Compare that to God who can be trusted to be correct and truthful, after all He created all those stars, He knows best.
              What evidence do you have for HIM creating the stars? - We know what creates stars, and we don't see a man in white robs creating them. What evidence do you have for God being trusted?

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              And if stars are so large, then how can they fit in earth's atmosphere?
              Because they're far away - We can only see 10, 000 stars compared to the 100 Billion in our Galaxy, and then comparing that to the 100 Billion Galaxies.

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Didn't all the scientists claim that the shooting star that hit Russia a few months ago was no more than a few feet across? When did the shooting star change size from thousands of times the size of our sun to the size of a simple boulder?
              Next time you moan, get your facts correct. Do you understand the different between a star and a shooting star?

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              And how could the star have traveled all those hundreds of millions of light years if you scientists claim that traveling a lightyear takes at least a year?
              I'll say again, do you understand the different between a star and a shooting star? The meteoroid that hit Russia was located in our solar system, near Earth. Not that far.

              Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
              Another Jesus hater.

              Could that happen if the stars were as large as you say? Either you are a fool is sweet Jesus is a liar. You are the fool.
              Jesus is a liar - the evidence supports it.

              Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
              Also if the stars were as large and far away as you say then could they rotate around the Earth in 24 hours?
              This is basic science. Seriously, you guys a complete dumb. The Earth does a full rotation in 24 hours.

              Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
              Everything you need to know is in the King James Bible, it's His instruction manual for us. I suggest you read it and accept Jesus' temporary sacrifice. If not you chose eternity in hell, your choice.
              Hell, here I come!

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              • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                To answer the question "A stars actually giant diamonds?".
                The short answer is no.
                Numbers 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

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                • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                  Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                  Jesus is a liar - the evidence supports it.
                  Do you enjoy posting here, young man? Thin ice, and we expect an apology forthright.
                  Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                  • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                    Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                    Jesus is a liar - the evidence supports it.
                    How DARE you come here and drop your verbal BOMB all over us, persecute us in the SAME WAY THE BOSTON MARATHON BOMBS terrorized Bostonites! You're TERRORIZING CHRISTIANS! I am literally weeping as I write this, my hands are so shaky right now but the Spirit is compelling me to SPEAK THE TRUTH, EVEN IF MY VOICE SHAKES!

                    JESUS IS NOT A LIAR!

                    Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY! He is the ALPHA AND OMEGA! He DIED for my SINS and He didn't have to! He CHOSE to! HE took on the debt that I owe for the crime of having been born with a nature that can't help but SIN! And you come along and call Him a Liar!

                    YOU'RE THE LIAR!

                    Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                    • Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

                      Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                      This is an excellent question. Well, I have been doing some scientific research on diamonds and I learned that the light refraction is much much higher than space (pure vacuum like scientists claim). What this means is that the speed of light slows down as it passes through a thick substance like a diamond. In pure space, light travels at 186,000+ miles per second, whereas through a diamond it is 77,000+ miles per second. That is more than half the speed!

                      Knowing this, we can rule out the stars being millions of light years away because a) The universe is only 6,000 years old, and b) diamonds slow down the speed of light, therefore increasing the time it takes to get here. If stars were millions of light years away, the light wouldn't have reached the earth by now. Therefore, the stars must be closer than scientists say.

                      We know light travels at 77,000 miles per second through diamonds. And we know that stars have existed since the beginning of the creation (Genesis chapter 1), so they couldn't be that far away. Let's read what Genesis says...

                      Genesis 1
                      14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
                      15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
                      16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
                      17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
                      18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
                      19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

                      So we know the stars were created within a 24 hour period. This means the distance of stars can be no more than 24 hours x 77,000 miles per second. Let us now do some math to prove star distance.

                      60 seconds x 60 minutes = 3600 seconds in a hour
                      3600 seconds per hour x 24 hours = 86400 seconds in a day.
                      86400 x 77000 = 6,652,800,000 miles away maximum.

                      Over six billion miles away! This is much, much shorter than atheist scientists postulate. But, I want to clarify that this does not mean the stars are six billion miles away, but only that it is the maximum possibility. More likely God put the stars only 77,000 miles away so their light only takes a second to get here. Or they could be only 500 miles away as well. That makes sense since it goes along with the sun's distance.

                      Either way, mathematics prove the stars are between 500 miles and 6 billion miles away. This is hard science, real science, not the crazy beliefs and blind faith of atheist scientists.
                      Are you serious?

                      There are a few flaws with this post you have made. Stars are not created over a 24 hour period. It takes millions of years for a single star to form. Even if they were created over a 24 hours period, you calculation is still flawed. You said the maximum distance was 24 hours ago, even though it's clear that stars didn't form yesterday. Your math is wrong, as it assumes the stars were created 24 hours ago, and not over a 24 period. This assumption you're saying that stars are formed in a 24 hours period is nowhere supported by scientific evidence. If you accept the speed of light, which you can do even at home, you can reject nonsensical literal interpretation of the Bible.

                      We've known the distance to the nearest stars for nearly two centuries, by careful measurement of stellar parallax. If we take for example our nearest star, other than our Sun, it is Proxima Centauri. That's 4 light years away. We know light travels through a vacuum at 186 282 miles per second. Therefore, the minimum distance to any star is:

                      4 * 365 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 186282 or around 23, 498, 000, 000, 000 miles.

                      This is more than 6 billion miles! Take in consideration this is our nearest star!

                      Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                      Do you enjoy posting here, young man? Thin ice, and we expect an apology forthright.
                      I only said that because you guys proved it.

                      Mark 13:2 said "the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in heavens will be shaken."

                      Of course this will never happen, and won't happen. Why would your Lord say that if it's not the truth? He must be a liar!

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                      • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                        Jesus is GOD ALMIGHTY!
                        Wait. Jesus is God? He's not the son of God?

                        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                        I am literally weeping as I write this, my hands are so shaky right now...
                        Apologise.

                        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                        He DIED for my SINS and He didn't have to! He CHOSE to! HE took on the debt that I owe for the crime of having been born with a nature that can't help but SIN! And you come along and call Him a Liar!
                        Jesus could have died for our sins, and, yes, he didn't have to. But you need to realise that everyone has the ability to lie for the good and bad; whether which one it is, it doesn't matter, it's still lying. Everyone lies in their life time.

                        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
                        YOU'RE THE LIAR!

                        I haven't lied about anything on this forum. I'm only expressing the truth, which you're in denial with because you can't accept it.

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                        • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                          Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
                          This is the only thing you have said so far that makes any sense. You clearly need to talk less and pray more.
                          And I'm surprised you even understood that much
                          Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                          abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                          • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                            Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                            Friend, we are as serious as the Fires of Hell and the Love of God.



                            So it is for jokes then????


                            Perhaps you are not used to be amoung honest people who do not pull punches and actually live according to how God wants.




                            Even if he isn't, being here won't change that






                            Tell me friend, do you love Jesus, I mean honstly love Him and are willing and able to do what He and He alone, tells you?


                            I'll let him answer that
                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                            • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                              ...and able to do what He and He alone, tells you?
                              Telling you from a book that is full of myths stolen from older religions. You only believe in the bible because you were indoctrinated into the belief by your families and that's what you are told to believe. It's your life, you don't need the bible to teach you how to be good, loving, decent human beings (actually, most of the Bible doesn't even teach that, but evil)

                              Stars are suns, and they are very far away. Deal with the truth.

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                              • Re: Are Stars Actually Giant Diamonds? Science and Math Confirms It!

                                Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                                Telling you from a book that is full of myths stolen from older religions.
                                Not true, friend. Any objective research will reveal these mythologies of which you speak, miraculously foreshadowed God's Revelation.
                                Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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