[Aristotle]

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you know its increadible hard to ask questions when you get banned, especially when you are not doing anything wrong...
anyways - onto questions which you have kindly () agreed to answer.

You have not lain out any proof here as to why you think the sun is a lump of coal. Please may i have some?

i will ask more questions at a later date - probably on a different account since you will probably ban this account too

Didn't you see the Nature article? It pointed out that the giant planet (really a small star) was mostly carbon, i.e. coal. Since the LORD made the sun and the stars from the same stuff, it follows that the sun is a lump of coal.

[mark.porter]

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I dont really know where to start on this link i can not say ive read every post, that aside i think i have read enough of the general nonsense on this thread to give me fair ground to stand on.

1. The sun is not made of coal.

2. The sun is a star of small-medium size.

3. Stars are not diamonds.

4. If light travels through a diamond its speed is in no way diminished.

5. The closest star other than our sun is Proxima Centauri which is 4.2 light years=(3,976,366,464,000 miles) away not "500 miles to six billion miles" as is claimed by many posts.

6. If stars really were 500+ miles away we would be able to send out a probe to analyze them and N.A.S.A. would have announced their existence in close proximity to earth.

7. In the quote provided by another by the name of "A Follower" he cites an article from a website: http://news.discovery.com/space/diam...ite-space.html he claims to have taken this quote from the site however if one were to do as i did and enter the site to confirm this one would find that the "star" in question was in reality nothing more than a meteorite.

The quotes:


The version posted on this site:


Researchers using a diamond paste to polish a slice of a fallen star stumbled onto something remarkable: crystals in the rock that are harder than diamonds.

A closer look with an array of instruments revealed two totally new kinds of God-designed carbon, which are harder than the diamonds formed inside the Earth.
[...]
The researchers were polishing a slice of the carbon-rich Havero star that God hurled down to Earth in Finland in 1971. When they then studied the polished surface they discovered carbon-loaded spots that were raised well above the rest of the surface –- suggesting that these areas were harder than the diamonds used in the polishing paste.


The original quote:


Researchers using a diamond paste to polish a slice of meteorite stumbled onto something remarkable: crystals in the rock that are harder than diamonds.

A closer look with an array of instruments revealed two totally new kinds of naturally occurring carbon, which are harder than the diamonds formed inside the Earth.

"The discovery was accidental but we were sure that looking in these meteorites would lead to new findings on the carbon system," said Tristan Ferroir of the Universite de Lyon in France.

Ferroir is the lead author of a report in the new diamond in the Feb. 15 issue of the journal Earth and Planetary Science Letters.

The researchers were polishing a slice of the carbon-rich Havero meteorite that fell to Earth in Finland in 1971. When they then studied the polished surface they discovered carbon-loaded spots that were raised well above the rest of the surface –- suggesting that these areas were harder than the diamonds used in the polishing paste.


Just to clarify the whole matter

~Brit
~Jew

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

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A shooting star was made of something like diamonds. Thank you for proving the Reverend's point.

[Nobar King]

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4. If light travels through a diamond its speed is in no way diminished.

Who am I supposed to believe?

Refraction Light travels at different speeds in different materials. Light travels at 3 X 108 m/sec in vacuum, at a slightly lower speed in air, and at 2 X 108 m/sec in glass. In a diamond, light travels at about 40% of its speed in a vacuum.

[INRIJedi]

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Rev. Jim,

I do not necessarily agree with your theory; however, assuming for a minute that you are correct in your assertions your math is still incorrect. In Psalms 90:4, the Bible states, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." And 2 Peter 3:8 says, "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Thus, a creation day is not a mere 24 hour period but rather a 1000 year period. Would not that information make the maximum distance for a star far greater than you have stated? And does that not mean that the Earth is also far older than you have stated?

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

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Rev. Jim,

I do not necessarily agree with your theory; however, assuming for a minute that you are correct in your assertions your math is still incorrect. In Psalms 90:4, the Bible states, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." And 2 Peter 3:8 says, "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Thus, a creation day is not a mere 24 hour period but rather a 1000 year period. Would not that information make the maximum distance for a star far greater than you have stated? And does that not mean that the Earth is also far older than you have stated?

Hello, INRIJedi,

This is a very good point you bring up, however you will find when it comes to the Genesis creation account, the Hebrew word "yom" is used and it is clearly referring to a literal 24-hour day. Those two verses you mention show us that God exists outside of our time, but that does not mean the Genesis verses are related to that concept.

The word "day"/"yom" occurs 357 times outside of Genesis 1. The combination is used in four different ways, but each time it is used, it must mean 24-hour periods of time. If the combinations had been intended to mean long periods of time, both the texts and contexts then become meaningless. One example is Genesis 30:36: "And he (Laban) set three days journey betwixt himself and Jacob." Does that mean Laban traveled for three thousand years? Of course not!

God frequently issued commands that the people were to do or not to do certain things on a given day. This use occurs 162 times. A good example is Exodus 24:16: "And the glory of the Lord abode upon Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days, and on the seventh day He called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud." These are the most typical uses of the word "day" with a number. Ezra 3:6 says, "From the first day of the seventh month they began to offer burnt offerings unto the Lord." A number may also be used with "day" to convey an ending point. An example is Leviticus 19:6: "It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the fire." It would appear, then, that whenever the Old Testament uses a number with the word "day," it means a 24-hour period of time without any demonstrable exception.

The point is, if you want to attribute day/yom as being of an era, it makes the rest of the Bible meaningless. We must understand the context. I hope this has explained things more clearly for you.

[xcalibur1]

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The star Arcturus is reddish actually, though you'll probably say it's a ruby.

Two questions, out of curiousity:

1. What are the other planets?

2. Does the Scripture really demand this sort of conclusion? "lights in the heavens" could mean all sorts of things, as there are many things that reflect or produce light.

[Bobby-Joe]

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The star Arcturus is reddish actually, though you'll probably say it's a ruby.

Two questions, out of curiousity:

1. What are the other planets?

2. Does the Scripture really demand this sort of conclusion? "lights in the heavens" could mean all sorts of things, as there are many things that reflect or produce light.

The Scripture demands a 6,000 year old Universe. The monkey worshipers claim a 13.75 billion year old Universe on the grounds of the speed of light being a constant and we can see thing 13.75 billion light years away. As the original post proves the Monkey Worshipers work from the close minded assumption that stars are just balls of hot gas.

[Stuart_John_Woods]

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Genesis1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Stars have been used for navigation and tracking of seasons since ancient times. The explorers who traversed the oceans and discovered the Americas relied on the stars.

The significance of the stars to navigation and seasons on Earth was not lost to our ancestors. The magi who came to worship Jesus when he was born did so because his birth was revealed to them in the stars. Herod was so concerned by what they told him that he ordered the killing of vast numbers of infants under two years, forcing Mary and Joseph to flee to Egypt. I was taught this in Sunday school as a child.

The way I interpret the above verse is that God realised full well that human beings would notice those bright points of light in the sky and interpret them as evidence of order in the universe he created. Much of the mechanics of God's universe were hidden from our ancestors. There are still many questions unanswered today.

The people who lived in ancient Sumeria and ancient Egypt had no idea whether the stars were made from coal or energetic plasma. The question was of no relevance to them, they had no means of finding out and it wouldn't have made any real difference to their lives one way or the other. People in the ancient world realised that there was order in the universe. The idea that some great intelligence created this order has emerged repeatedly in human civilisation since history has been recorded.

Whether the stars are made out of one thing or another is of no importance as far as the bible is concerned. The bible tells us that God knew full well what we would use the stars for on Earth and provided them for that purpose. What he chose to make them out of and how he chose to form them is his business, not ours. The bible clearly states that God is beyond our understanding. If we don't understand why God created something in a certain way, this is to be expected.

We know God created the stars, it doesn't really matter how he made them or what he made them out of, insofar as the bible is concerned. Don't worry whether God made the sun out of coal or gas. Understand that God made the universe and he knew what he was doing!

[Brother Helge]

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We know God created the stars, it doesn't really matter how he made them or what he made them out of, insofar as the bible is concerned. Don't worry whether God made the sun out of coal or gas. Understand that God made the universe and he knew what he was doing!

Finally something you write that I can agree with!

[bums_lover]

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Off course stars are not diamonds. Which century are you guys living in?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Off course stars are not diamonds. Which century are you guys living in?

God's century. We follow the Holy Bible. We are Christians.


Why are you here?

[bums_lover]

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God's century. We follow the Holy Bible. We are Christians.


Why are you here?

Because I enjoy study strange people's visions and believes.

[rocknroll]

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Somethings I would like to point out: technically yes because of the heat it's not impossible that stars could be diamonds. But, diamonds only shine in the presence of light, and that is why scientists reached the conclusion that stars radiate their own light, and hence are not diamonds.

Blah, my explanation made no sense, but basically stars cannot be diamonds, because diamonds can't radiate light.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Stars have to be quite small and close. If they were big and further away I would like to know how they could all rotate around the earth in just 24 hours?