[sKid]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

There's your problem -- you are looking for evidence, when what you need is faith. You can't find God in a test tube.

I disagree. Evidence has far more weight than Faith ever will. Faith is nothing more but belief in something without proof, or, in simpler terms, ignorance. Faith promotes IGNORANCE, something I can not stand for, and in my opinion is NOT a virtue. I'd rather be an Atheist than force myself to believe in something as illogical as "god" with faith.

If you are right, then won't doesn't matter for either of us. If you are wrong, then there will literally be Hell to pay.

Fair enough, but I'm certain (once again not 100%) that there is no "hell".

-A Seeker of Truth.

[Sister Noddy]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

I don't need to understand any of that junk. I learn everything I need to know from the Bible, amen.

Not one of those so-called theories will teach you what you really need to know. None of them will tell you how to obtain Salvation. None of them will teach you how to do God's will. Only the Bible can tell you that.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

A few days ago when I was an atheist, I loved all that science. I really thought science was the answer. In fact, for years and until less than a week ago, I thought just exactly like Mr Skin here thinks.

But you are making sense here, Pastor Billy. Now, let's look at things with GOD'S logic instead. When all is said and done, scientists can spend lifetimes gathering evidence for their theories; with their instruments and their maths they can virtually travel to the end of the universe looking for the answers.

Remember that gigantic hole they have found out there? Scientists would need a hundred lifetimes to figure out what that really is. And why bother? because in the end there is still GOD. He is everywhere, He created everything, all things are created and have their being, and it's really none of our business to understand it.

But instead if we want to love GOD and obey Him, then our business is the Bible. If we want to stick our noses anywhere, it should be the pages of GOD'S Bible, and not black holes (besides, they will never be able to outrun that black hole, since everything is speeding away from the earth at tremendous velocity, leaving God's Earth in the center, as it should be)

To go looking for the unknown is downright impossible, unnecessary and asking for trouble (for all we know that hole could be Satan's exhaust pipe, containing evils we have never before imagined, and we'd be taking a huge chance messing with it)

Keep it simple, if you want salvation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

I'm certain (once again not 100%) that there is no "hell".

You are in for a BIG surprise boy. All you smart-aleck monkey worshipers ought to look at THIS!

[sKid]

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You are in for a BIG surprise boy. All you smart-aleck monkey worshipers ought to look at THIS!

There is no hell. I have said it before, and I will say it again.

I do not worship "monkeys", so I'm not sure why you even posted that. Going through the posts on this board, I can tell that you - Ezekiel - are just filled with hate, and you LOVE to generalize groups. Grow up, believe in equality, and learn to debate. Otherwise, keep your ignorance to yourself.

[Poison__x]

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It's horsefeathers. We don't currently have the technology to do that kind of stuff. However, I believe that we'll eventually get to it if we don't blow up the Earth first.

[Wash O'Hanley]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

If the technology doesn't exist then the ball is squarely in Jesus' court. You can't dismiss Christianity just because the technology to disprove it hasn't yet been invented. It throws our whole system into whack. If logic like yours were to dictate how things were done we would never put anyone on death row to death because the technology might be invented in the future to prove they were innocent. The day George W. Bush was elected to his second term in office America made the judgment that Christianity was in fact true and no phony-baloney "technology" that you can conceive (but can't build) will ever change that- not now, not tomorrow and not ever!

[Brother Guy Bayard]

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Why is there so much hate in all of your hearts? Its obvious that all of you do not understand the Quantum Theory, or the Theory of Relativity, or any other scientific theory for that matter, so why even post? To propagate your ignorance? It's almost hard to read through this thread. I would say this one quote applies to ALL of you:

"That which I do not understand, does not work". And of course "Ignorance is Bliss".

As for you Trent, that joke is not funny. There is no need to be racist.

For you to make comments like this, SKIN, you need to understand a few things yourself. It's obvious you don't know the meaning of the word 'racism' and probably think Jerry Lewis is where 'funny' starts and stops.
Are you French by any chance?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

It's horsefeathers. We don't currently have the technology to do that kind of stuff. However, I believe that we'll eventually get to it if we don't blow up the Earth first.

I find it mind-boggling that someone can have so much faith in fallible man, but none in the Almighty God.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

Fair enough, but I'm certain (once again not 100%) that there is no "hell".

Then you're not certain at all.. One is either certain or not.
Pray tell, what facts do you have to support your theory that there is no hell?
Cause if we are wrong (theoretically speaking, I KNOW we are right) then it's harmless for us, then death is the end, and there is no hell nor heaven, no God.

But if YOU are wrong (and you are).. Well, then you'll BURN FOREVER in a literal lake of fire!
Friend, why risk such a fate? It doesn't make any sense:
The only SANE thing to do is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour.


So if you are a wise person, this is what you will do:
Get on your knees and pray to God right now, asking Him for His forgiveness for your sins.
Deny satan and all his works, all his false promises, all ideas he might have filled you with. (science included)
Recognize that you are a sinner in need of Jesus forgiveness, the forgiveness He assures all true believers of through His sacrifice.
Recognize that obedience to God requires faith in Him and His Holy Word, and cast all doubts aside, pledging the Lord Jesus Christ as your Master and personal Saviour.
Repent of all your sins, (don't try to name any, you will forget most of them, and God knows what sins you have done)
And sincerly ask the Lord Jesus Christ to come into your heart.
Do all this and you WILL be Saved!

[sKid]

Re: Lutheran Science fictionists invent more non-facts.

For you to make comments like this, SKIN, you need to understand a few things yourself. It's obvious you don't know the meaning of the word 'racism' and probably think Jerry Lewis is where 'funny' starts and stops.

I do know what racism is, and can tell it that there is plenty of it on this board. You guys are twisting the idea of racism however, and fitting it to your particular needs.

Are you French by any chance?

Nope. 100% American, born and raised in California.

Then you're not certain at all.. One is either certain or not.

Did you read any of my prior posts? As I can not prove that there is no "god", I can not say with 100% certainty there isn't one. It would be wrong on my part. However, I am already 99.9% sure there is no fabled "god", and there is no Hell, etc. etc. Why? Because it is illogical, nonsensical, and came out of a book that is unreliable. No proof whatsoever.

Friend, why risk such a fate? It doesn't make any sense:
The only SANE thing to do is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour.

You just don't understand, I am very certain that there is no Hell. For me to just start praying to a god out of the many gods on this planet would be an insane thing for me to do. Not once has "god" or "Jesus" proved himself to me, and he never will. Why? Because they do not exist. Did you know there isn't even proof of Jesus outside of the Bible - which is not a reliable source? He was a prophet ripped straight from the Egyptian God Horus.

I am already saved... saved from the restraints of religion

[Wash O'Hanley]

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Nope. 100% American, born and raised in California.

California barely qualifies as an American state.

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

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California barely qualifies as an American state.

That would also explain why he is a FLAMING homersexshul.

JESUS Weeps.

Sister Thumper

[Poison__x]

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California barely qualifies as an American state.

California is awesome, it has Disneyland. Impossible for it to be not awesome.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

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Did you know there isn't even proof of Jesus outside of the Bible - which is not a reliable source? He was a prophet ripped straight from the Egyptian God Horus.

What a load of crap. From the 'Pedia:

"Occasionally non-historians deny the existence of Jesus, but few scholars take this seriously. Tacitus, the Roman historian, wrote about Jesus in A.D. 115[12], and Josephus, a Jewish historian who did not believe in Jesus' divinity, wrote about him. [13]. Dr. Gary Habermas wrote an extensive analysis of the historicity of the existence of Jesus in his work The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ which discusses many historical sources which mention Jesus.

Lee Strobel's book The Case for Christ contains a number of interviews with experts on the historical Jesus and a defense of Jesus's resurrection, and is a good resource on this subject."

Josephus, a vile JOO, even admitted that Jesus was real. NO contemporary historians doubt that He existed and was resurrected. It is a stone-cold FACT. You are not only woefully ignorant, but you would be LAUGHED AT by anyone with the most basic grasp of history, including secular, liberal scholars. You're a joke.

[Wash O'Hanley]

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The fact that there is such an abundant wealth of information regarding Jesus is proof that he existed and the fact that no body has ever been found is proof that he resurrected. With all this information at one's expense it is flat out stupid not to be a Christian.