[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.
If you don't make that assumption, then your entire argument falls to pieces.

If there's any possibility of the Bible being wrong, then there's a possibility that the parts which state that's it's the word of God are false.

Have you proven that every bit of it is 100% true.

There are two possibilities.

1. The bible is 100% true.
2. Some or all of it is false.

If it says it's the word of God.

1. It's the word of God.
2. Since parts of it are false saying it's the word of god doesn't make it the word of God any more than it would for any other book would.

Disprove option 2. I bet you can't. (oh and quoting the Bible won't help, If option 2 is true, then the quotes will probably be wrong anyway.)

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If some idiot wrote a false scripture and wrote in it that it was the word of God, it wouldn't automatically become the word of God. If you used your logic on the false scripture, it would mean it would become the True word of God.

If it gained many followers then they might start using the same logic as you use, both would then have the exactly the same evidence.

What is this garbage? It's completely erroneous to ask for proof of God, how hard is that to understand?

Psalms 18:30

However your assertion that science is provable, is clearly utter nonsense, i am surprised with all this supposed education you have failed to grasp even the simplest of principles:

1) Science is there to define phenomena and provide an explanation.
2) Most of science is not independently "provable". By which I mean you cannot independently verify many theories without relying on a previous theory.
3) The majority of theories can only explain very simple or localised phenomena. For example gravity can be explained by the various theories, and at a local level (for example a ball falling to Earth), they provide a nice easy way to measure things, or approximate what is going to happen, but i cant think of any which actually have any capabiity to reproduce the real world without caveats or assumptions.
4) This is because although we are smart, we don't actually know what is happening, we can guess but we dont know. So your "science" is based on supposition and guesstimates.
5) God knows all. God knows how things work.
6) I can guess how and why God makes things happen, but I dont know.

2 Corinthians 7:1

[Zechariah Smyth]

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.

FINALLY!!!!!

YiC,

Zech
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[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence the science is true that doesn't assume that science is true to begin with.









Can you please post those parts of the Holy Bible that state that anything in the Holy Bible is false?

All your arguments rest on the assumption that every bit of it is true.
If you don't make that assumption, then your entire argument falls to pieces.

If there's any possibility of the Bible being wrong, then there's a possibility that the parts which state that's it's the word of God are false.

Have you proven that every bit of it is 100% true.

There are two possibilities.

1. The bible is 100% true.
2. Some or all of it is false.

If it says it's the word of God.

1. It's the word of God.
2. Since parts of it are false saying it's the word of god doesn't make it the word of God any more than it would for any other book would.

Disprove option 2. I bet you can't. (oh and quoting the Bible won't help, If option 2 is true, then the quotes will probably be wrong anyway.)

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If some idiot wrote a false scripture and wrote in it that it was the word of God, it wouldn't automatically become the word of God. If you used your logic on the false scripture, it would mean it would become the True word of God.

If it gained many followers then they might start using the same logic as you use, both would then have the exactly the same evidence.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.

No I mean where is your evidence the science is true that doesn't assume that science is true to begin with.

Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

Can you please post those parts of the Holy Bible that state that anything in the Holy Bible is false?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.
Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It's like we're going to go round in the same circle with you forever and ever isn't it!

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

No I mean where is your evidence that the Bible is the true word of God that doesn't assume that the Bible is true to begin with.
Maybe the parts of it which state it's the word of God are false themselves.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

There, strong evidence. wouldn't call it proof, but it's pretty strong.

Now where's yours.

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is not the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely false, or 2. It's not the word of God.

YOU have to supply the evidence to back up your silly claim.

YIC

Jack

It contradicts known maths and a lot of science. It requires Nasa to be and all the space agencies to be in on a conspiracy, (Flat earth/ Geocentrism.) Lots of maths to be wrong (pi=3).

Possible contradictions.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

Serious contradictions.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html

There, strong evidence. wouldn't call it proof, but it's pretty strong.

Now where's yours.

It also requires that people when they start to see the possible options of what to believe in, to make a lucky guess or burn in hell.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Can you actually prove that science is true without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's based on science.

Well, can you??

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

It's called faith for a reason:

Psalms 5:11

EXACTLY! It's FAITH that the traditional pastoral consensus is RIGHT! As we TRUE Christians(tm) always have said Christianity is a religion of Divinely Reveled LOGIC. If anything there is no more faith more of it when it comes to logic than Christianity!.

Christianity has over two thousand years of carefully crafted arguments, horned out in detail by some of the greatest thinkers. Christianity's ideas have withstood seven major social changes in the West. Science has completely re-described the nature of reality lest three time in that time period yet Christianity has not changed even once.

[Repentant]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

It's called faith for a reason:

Psalms 5:11

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Friend,

It says so in The Bible.

Anymore questions?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Excuse but if multiple different scriptures say there the word of God, which one is true.

How do you figure it out. All of them say there the word of God.

They're saying they are the word of Allah or some such. Try to pay attention!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.

Can you actually prove the Bible is not the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely false, or 2. It's not the word of God.

YOU have to supply the evidence to back up your silly claim.

YIC

Jack

[11cookies]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Can you actually prove the Bible is the true word of God without assuming either, 1. It's completely true, or 2. It's the word of God.