Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda
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This is a sticky topic.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
what about people who have lived any but europe for that past 6,000 or so years did they go to hell because gods privileged were to stupid to sail across the world and convert them or maybe you god isn't real because if he was so real then wouldn't everyone in the world be a christian
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
Oh dear, of course not!Originally posted by \Atheist/ View Postso to shorten our time on earth we should commit suicide to reach "our lord and saviour" faster and also give me evidential prove of god outside of the bible because when you say that the bible has all the evidence you need the you run into circular reasoning "my magic book is right because my magic book says it is"
Your body does not belong to you. It belongs to God.
1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
You're also into argumentation? Nice. I explained above that the Truthâ„¢ of the Bible has been established elsewhere in thie Forum. It is not necessary but it would be cumbersome to reproduce it in every thread. Instead, you are using ad ridiculum (making jokes about suicide which I find is bad taste) and a straw man fallacy by making a twisted caricature of my post and attacking the caricature.
I still feel that Jesus must be calling you. That is magnificent and, thus, I thank Jesus for this chance to spread His Good Word to you.
Glory!
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
Don't be silly. We have a great commission to convert as many souls as we can to the Christian Faith (Matthew 28:16-20). You see, we know if you never hear of Jesus during your life, you will go to hell. We want to help you avoid that. Partially because we care, but mostly because Jesus wants it, and we want to please Him.Originally posted by \Atheist/ View Postso to shorten our time on earth we should commit suicide to reach "our lord and saviour" faster and also give me evidential prove of god outside of the bible because when you say that the bible has all the evidence you need the you run into circular reasoning "my magic book is right because my magic book says it is"
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
so to shorten our time on earth we should commit suicide to reach "our lord and saviour" faster and also give me evidential prove of god outside of the bible because when you say that the bible has all the evidence you need the you run into circular reasoning "my magic book is right because my magic book says it is"Originally posted by Elmer G. White View PostBecause Earth does not MATTER in the long run. It is transient. It will pass. A few decades is NOTHING. We're talking about Eternity here. I can't wait to DIE and to get into HEAVEN with Jesus. Unfortunately I still have duties here. I must try to save lives in the manner that has some actual significance. I'm saving lives for Infinity. Suffering here under the Firmament is necessary to get people to repent and accept Jesus.

It has be designed like that. It is God's great plan!
Matthew 6:20
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven , where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Why prolong the vile and abominable life on earth when Eternity awaits!? Science?! It is a tool to oppose all that is pure and precious to Jesus (except Creation Science that is harmonized with the Bible).
Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
You'll have to change your perspective from the infinitesimally short period of corporeal life to the unending existence in heaven with Jesus.

Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
I wouldn't say it's pointless to argue on this forum, but it doesn't really interest me anymore.
I would love to spend the next four days replying, but I have better things to do.
Have fun being idiots, albeit semi-polite idiots.
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Because Earth does not MATTER in the long run. It is transient. It will pass. A few decades is NOTHING. We're talking about Eternity here. I can't wait to DIE and to get into HEAVEN with Jesus. Unfortunately I still have duties here. I must try to save lives in the manner that has some actual significance. I'm saving lives for Infinity. Suffering here under the Firmament is necessary to get people to repent and accept Jesus.Originally posted by \Atheist/ View PostWhy would you want to bring people to a god to waste their time and encourage close-mindedness and discourage science which has saved way more lives than anything on earth.

It has be designed like that. It is God's great plan!
Matthew 6:20
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven , where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Why prolong the vile and abominable life on earth when Eternity awaits!? Science?! It is a tool to oppose all that is pure and precious to Jesus (except Creation Science that is harmonized with the Bible).
Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
You'll have to change your perspective from the infinitesimally short period of corporeal life to the unending existence in heaven with Jesus.

Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
If your god is so omnipotent the explain this list of contradiction is the WORD OF GOD WRITTEN BY GODOriginally posted by Elmer G. White View PostHe is omnipotent.
***an invitation to join Satan removed by moderator***
omnipotent
/ɒmˈnɪpətənt/
adjective
1.
having very great or unlimited power
so if your god is all powerful why would he contradict himself
and as I said before i don't want to be closer to your god who does such horrible things
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Good point, brother. These godless fools simply cannot recognize a legitimate problem in front of them. "FEED THEM! That'll do it!"Originally posted by Des View PostWait, if the church is already feeding them, then the athesnits aren't doing anything good by feeding them even more. In fact, they are contributing to obesity by double-feeding people.
Half the time they think all people are like babies - feed them and stick a nipple in their mouth. That will get the whiners to stop fussing.
The problem is, it gets them distracted long enough to turn them gay.
It's so, so sad.
O Come Lord Jesus!
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
Firstly, I wasn't try to disprove your point on the first one, but I do get it, and I'm not going to use your credentials against you.
Also you just used the bible as evidence.
I think this is enough for me for tonight. Also thanks for corrections, I'm not new to logical fallacies per say, but I still need a lot of work.
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Wait, if the church is already feeding them, then the athesnits aren't doing anything good by feeding them even more. In fact, they are contributing to obesity by double-feeding people.Originally posted by \Atheist/ View PostThey were feeding the very same people the christian organization across the street were feeding.
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You are getting closer. I think this can be most beneficial to you! Wonderful.Originally posted by \Atheist/ View PostThe children you mentioned who have chosen the cancer lifestyle may not have made free choices while in the uterus but a HUMAN MADE CHOICES FOR THEM.
You are merely reinforcing my point that this "god" does not deserved to be worshiped ...
God does not "deserve" anything from us. He doesn't care if you "like" Him. He is omnipotent. He is to be FEARED.
Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
That is all it takes. God does what He does. We will ultimately see the reasons behind His apparent wanton cruelty one day in Heaven. it will be revealed to us and I can assure you it all serves the master plan of God. It is all for the ultimate Good. You can still repent and join us there.
God is beyond your judgements. He is the one who decides. Could there be any greater reason to worship Him?
Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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Why would you want to bring people to a god to waste their time and encourage close-mindedness and discourage science which has saved way more lives than anything on earth.Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View PostWhy would anyone raise money to encourage people to be homeless, fearful, superstitious, and gay? That's not kindness, dear. That's taking advantage of the dimwitted. Shame on you.
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Firstly, none of the acts stated by /u//aithiest/ in any way encouraged people to be homeless, fearful, superstitious, or gay.
And you have no factual basis to back up your claims.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy
Originally posted by Incendus View PostWAIT WAIT WAIT, I was just looking at your tags..
Flat Earth?
Oh my, we do have a "true scientist" on our hands.
Do you ever feel guilty for teaching this bs knowing what it is?
You're an ex scientist, right? You gotta know.
That's really sad.You're into argumentation, aren't you! Great! Let us see:Originally posted by Incendus View PostAny argument from authority is, by definition, wrong.
(also known as your entire argument)
1. You refer not to my text but to my credentials. In fact, the content of my post can be correct or incorrect irrespective of my education, world views or faith. This is the most simple and basic argumentative fallacy called ad hominem or "appeal to person". It is, in fact, character assassination and not a rational argument.
2. Appeal to authority. It IS a possible fallacy. However, the authority of the Bible is not an issue here. You might want to study the threads that discuss the reliability of Scripture and post you opinions on that there. We have openly announced that Biblical authority is something we DO base our opinion on. By saying, however, that "all appeals to authorities are wrong", you are committing another fallacious argument. It is the fallacist's fallacy. An appeal to authority can be fallacious as it presents not evidence but emotional material. But its truth value cannot be determined from its form. A statement can be true even it is is presented in a fallacious manner. Truth does not depend on the manner, it depends on the evidence.
For us, the evidence is the Bible. No secret there.
2 Timothy 2:23
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Yours in Christ,
Elmer
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