[NonDumbPal]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

First of all it is important to realize that the Bible never contradicts itself as it is perfect. So if something seems contradicting it is always your mistake, never the Bible.

It will surprise no one that the answer to your dilemma is in the Holy Bible: Luke 18:27 "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."

So while you and me would not be able to create a circle with corners, God has no problems doing just that. Just like God could create a triangle with 4 sides if He wanted to.

I was about to say that, if the earth is a huge place, how can a person have enough field of view to spot four angels that are in every four corners of the earth. But then I read this Luke fragment and I just rolled to the floor. Laughing

This sentence you've quoted, mate, is what makes the bible perfect. It's the Joker in a card game. It's like the "Yes to all" option in a computer inquiry. It's something like: "if all the above fails or contradicts, don't worry: god makes it possible" No contradictions with a golden rule like this! I'm starting to understand why are you worshipping such a thing.

Perhaps we should convince the scientist community to begin all their studies with the phrase: "As Sir Isaac Newton stated in 1689, all results of a research are possible, even if it is impossible. Science is magic" and this way noone could even argue if something is right or wrong. The scientist says camels are fish not mammals, so be it! The study is right, Isaac Newton would agree. How easy is to obtain the absolute truth, isn't it?

I'm starting to think you guys can't be real. This should be some kind of very complex joke. I can't believe people taking literally sentences that are probably bad translations of old hebrew common expressions, sentences that were probably correct in a society two thousand years ago. Two thousand years have passed, folks. Our society has changed so much. You're talking with people around the world thanks to the internet. You're traveling huge distances in a small amount of time thanks to this evil and demonic technology the bible speaks of. Why the need to live in the past? Is the present not good enough?

I don't say the bible is useless. Is teaches us many good valors, we have to be kind with our loved people, etcetera. Why do we have to take literally the scientist advances of two thousand years ago just because they're written in a holy book? Science has advanced, guys. If it hadn't, you would still be marrying your cousins and traveling in horsecars. Don't blame the scientists, they don't blame the religions at all.

[NonDumbPal]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

If something gets lost in translation it's certainly not your papist language traits.

Well, you can ask your spanish wife what "peso" is. Not talking about the Argentine currency, of course. When she answers, look in wikipedia (or in a more serious site if you want) and you will realise what she thinks is "peso" is really called "masa". In some dictionaries, they're even considered synonims, though in physics they are two different concepts. Weight ("peso") is a force and mass ("masa") is a property of the matter. No need to blame anyone, it's a common misconception in our language.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

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Well, you can ask your spanish wife what "peso" is. Not talking about the Argentine currency, of course. When she answers, look in wikipedia (or in a more serious site if you want) and you will realise what she thinks is "peso" is really called "masa". In some dictionaries, they're even considered synonims, though in physics they are two different concepts. Weight ("peso") is a force and mass ("masa") is a property of the matter. No need to blame anyone, it's a common misconception in our language.

There are of course no ambiguities in Spanish.
Peso
Masa
Misa

Not that Spanish is a 'better' language. Quite the contrary, its heavy dependence on inflectional endings which are identical (particularly in the subjunctive) or object pronoun similarities and particularly its 'pro-drop' stance regarding subject pronouns mean it is a particularly misleading and inaccurate vehicle for many forms of communication.

Don't even get me started on its random-vagueness with locational and directional prepositions.

[NonDumbPal]

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I'm particularly amused by your last post I'm not talking about ambiguities, I'm talking about misconceptions! What I'm trying to say, is that the word "peso" has many meanings and two of them are very similar, so it's usual to make a bad use of them. As I see you don't have problems at all with the language, check the official meaning of the word "peso":

http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltObtenerHtml?origen=RAE&IDLEMA=80824&NEDIC=Si

Check the first entry, peso is a "Force" so it is computed in Newtons, not in kilograms or pounds. Lots of people, when asked what is his "peso", will answer in kilograms, and that is not weight but mass. Masa. Hope this time I'm understood!

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I'm particularly amused by your last post I'm not talking about ambiguities, I'm talking about misconceptions! What I'm trying to say, is that the word "peso" has many meanings and two of them are very similar, so it's usual to make a bad use of them. As I see you don't have problems at all with the language, check the official meaning of the word "peso":

http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltObtenerHtml?origen=RAE&IDLEMA=80824&NEDIC=Si

Check the first entry, peso is a "Force" so it is computed in Newtons, not in kilograms or pounds. Lots of people, when asked what is his "peso", will answer in kilograms, and that is not weight but mass. Masa. Hope this time I'm understood!

You see that's precisely the problem with the Real Academia de La Lengua. They're a bunch of old farts with an average age of 240 who sit around watching bullfights on TV, brandy in hand, cigar in mouth, slurring and slobbering incoherently about how things were better under Franco while deciding which new* (usually already in use for the past 40 years) word to put in the new version of the dictionary while refusing to admit any foreignisms like Internet, e-mail, or Disc Jockey which everybody uses.

I perfectly understand the meanings and differences but to use the tardologisms of that institutionalized monument to Slabbering Senility that is La Real Academia as a guide to anything is like deciding to race your speedboat through a Loch Ness of porridge using only sheepfart as fuel.

You welcome.

[NonDumbPal]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I can agree with you in that. Most linguists have much spare time. Anyway, in theoric physics there is a conceptual difference, that's what InvisiblePinkUnicorn was trying to tell me.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I can agree with you in that. Most linguists have much spare time. Anyway, in theoric physics there is a conceptual difference, that's what InvisiblePinkUnicorn was trying to tell me.

I know.

(Theoretical is the correct adjective actually, for future reference. Genuinely offering help - not being condescending. Yet.)

[Godismyscientist]

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Fellow Christians, I find your arguments insulting. You are implying that God, in is ultimate and wonderful divine power, is incapable of creating anything beyond the boundaries of human understanding. Something as simple as a round earth and gravity is like snapping his fingers to God's awesomeness. To imply that modern science is false is implying that God is imperfect and I take offense. Please, for your own sake and God's do not try to deny his greatness, but rather let science continue to prove the ingenuity and divine excellence of God.

[GOD=life]

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Fellow Christians, I find your arguments insulting.

Then you're not a fellow Christian.

To imply that modern science is false is implying that God is imperfect and I take offense.

Then that's because you worship science, not God. If you actually look back at the history that precedes "modern science", you'll see that time and again, solid "facts" are changed by scientists. And every time, there is a major change, science becomes more in line with the Bible.

Maybe in a 100 years from now, when science is merged with Christianity, people will look back at the science of these days and laugh at how misguided it was.

let science continue to prove the ingenuity and divine excellence of God.

It does. It's called Intelligent Design and Creationism. We're trying to get biology teachers to teach it instead of the REFUTED theory of evilution. But atheists still fight God about it.

[Godismyscientist]

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Then you're not a fellow Christian.


Then that's because you worship science, not God. If you actually look back at the history that precedes "modern science", you'll see that time and again, solid "facts" are changed by scientists. And every time, there is a major change, science becomes more in line with the Bible.

Maybe in a 100 years from now, when science is merged with Christianity, people will look back at the science of these days and laugh at how misguided it was.


It does. It's called Intelligent Design and Creationism. We're trying to get biology teachers to teach it instead of the REFUTED theory of evilution. But atheists still fight God about it.

I'm sorry you are lost, I will pray for you. May Jesus save you.

[James Dewitt]

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I'm sorry you are lost, I will pray for you. May Jesus save you.

How can you call yourself A CHRISTIAN, when you clearly dispute the word of God? Are you a Catlik?

[Bogdana Alkeav]

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I'm sorry you are lost, I will pray for you. May Jesus save you.

Oh, I love watching you Christians fight.

"My interpretation is right, because I say so!"

"No, MY interpretation is right, because I say so!"

"I'm saved, you're not!

"No, I'm saved, and YOU'RE not!"

Honestly, if God is real, why is He letting all this confusion abound? Why doesn't He come down here and set the record straight?

[Godismyscientist]

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How can you call yourself A CHRISTIAN, when you clearly dispute the word of God? Are you a Catlik?

I am not disputing the word of God, but rather I'm convinced of his truth by his ability to create things beyond our understanding. I do not condemn those who try to discover God's world (scientists); rather, I am saddened that they refuse to believe that God had a hand in their discoveries, but someday they will realize that folly. I am not Catholic, but Catholics are Christians too, and disrespect towards God's children is not very Christian. I shall pray for your misplaced soul as well. God is Forgiving.

Job 26:7, 26:10
Isaiah 40:21-22
Proverbs 8:27

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

God is Forgiving.

Job 26:7, 26:10
Isaiah 40:21-22
Proverbs 8:27

In a minority of cases, yes. The vast majority of the time though, he is not.

See this.
New Study Proves Bible Is Not "All About Love" - The Landover Baptist Church Forums

You can't just go proclaiming what YOU think is God's Will from a minority viewppoint my friend, and then try to FORCE it on everyone else. That's like saying that Drambuie is better than a real Single Malt just because you like the taste better.

You should try to understand the broader picture.

[GOD=life]

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I'm sorry you are lost

On the contrary, you are the one who is lost. I on the other hand am a True Christian who worships God with his fellow Christians on this very forum. Obviously, you are unhappy with that, so you come barging in here without so much as a proper introduction.

I will pray for you

Pray to Darwin all you want. He can't do anything because God killed him a long time ago.

May Jesus save you.

He already did. Would you like a turn?