[xeon49]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Son, swearing is not going to convince anyone. Did you that to the keen observer, a person that swears usually dos so because they are incapable of and unable to provide information contrary to correct fact. So to confuse and obscure the actual topic, they swear and speak poorly. Thing is friend, we hear and see this sort of behavior from those that hate God all the time. You know God is right. You know He has to be. But your 'teachers' force you to accept their way of thinking or you'll never graduate. If you never graduate, you will never get a real job. Unless you are willing to be a real man, on that believes his convictions. One that is not afraid to proclaim out loud on a street corner that he loves Jesus in a manner only another man could know.

I think you and I could be good friends, talking about Jesus and other timely Biblical subjects. What do you say, you stop swearing and I'll stop showing you how wrong you are. Deal?

You havn't proven me wrong yet. I didn't swear (like if that would matter) and I don't believe in god since there is no proof at all and everything has a natural explanation. So god is simply not needed.

[Physics!]

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He is not a mormon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellery_Schempp

That should read "moron". And it's still painfully obvious he has no idea what he's talking about.

[Physics!]

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That should read "mormon". And it's still painfully obvious he has no idea what he's talking about.

Ahh, haha, very nice.

Having a filter to change all cases of the word "mormo n" to "mormon". Classic.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Take your a** to an ocean and take a look and you will see, don't say no if you don't have seen it. And also when you are flying you can see that the horizon is slightly curved.

You havn't proven me wrong yet. I didn't swear (like if that would matter) and I don't believe in god since there is no proof at all and everything has a natural explanation. So god is simply not needed.

Everyone has proved you wrong, but that is Ok. I still care about you deeply.
I bolded the swear word you used. And it does matter. Every time you swear, Jesus sheds a tear.

How can you see the world around you and not believe in Him? I am terrified at the thought of you waiting till judgment day and God sending you to Hell. It would break my heart

[xeon49]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Everyone has proved you wrong, but that is Ok. I still care about you deeply.
I bolded the swear word you used. And it does matter. Every time you swear, Jesus sheds a tear.

How can you see the world around you and not believe in Him? I am terrified at the thought of you waiting till judgment day and God sending you to Hell. It would break my heart

*Profanity-filled rant deleted*

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Haven't you seen a baby? Felt the love of a another person? Driven on the autobahn?

These things are not accidental.

[xeon49]

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The bible is nothing but a scince-fiction book until the opposite is proved.

And yeah going on the autobahn is not accidental, I kinda need to drive on the highway to get to Italy.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

I didn't mean gas as the fuel, I mean't gas as oxygen and other gases.

That's just silly. I've never heard of a plane that use oxygen as fuel. Do you have any proof for this?

Now can someone here tell me why you see the mast of the ship before you see the ship? If you don't give me an answer I take it as if you don't know and that I just proved the earth to be round.

That was already answered. But since you are obviously too stupid to read more than a few words at a time before getting a headache, I'll re-post it.

"6. If we stand on the sands of the sea-shore and watch a ship approach us, we shall find that she will apparently "rise" - to the extent, of her own height, nothing more. If we stand upon an eminence, the same law operates still; and it is but the law of perspective, which causes objects, as they approach us, to appear to increase in size until we see them, close to us, the size they are in fact. That there is no other "rise" than the one spoken of is plain from the fact that, no matter how high we ascend above the level of the sea, the horizon rises on and still on as we rise, so that it is always on a level with the eye, though it be two-hundred miles away, as seen by Mr. J. Glaisher, of England, from Mr. Coxwell's balloon. So that a ship five miles away may be imagined to be "coming up" the imaginary downward curve of the Earth's surface, but if we merely ascend a hill such as Federal Hill, Baltimore, we may see twenty-!five miles away, on a level with the eye - that is, twenty miles level distance beyond the ship that we vainly imagined to be " rounding the curve," and "coming up!" This is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.

7. If we take a trip down the Chesapeake Bay, in the day-time, we may see for ourselves the utter fallacy of the idea that when a vessel appears "hull down," as it is called, it is because the hull is "behind the water:" for, vessels, have been seen, and may often be seen - again, presenting the appearance spoken of, and away - far away - beyond those vessels, and, at the same moment, the level shore line, with its accompanying complement of tall trees towering up, in perspective, over the heads of the "hull-down" ships! Since, then, the idea will not stand its ground when the facts rise up against it, and it is a piece of the popular theory, the theory is a contemptible piece of business, and we may easily wring from it a proof that Earth is not a globe."

[Physics!]

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That's just silly. I've never heard of a plane that use oxygen as fuel. Do you have any proof for this?

Do we really need to go over this again?

When Xeon says "gas", the poster is not referring to fuel! I'd think after having it explained to you multiple times you'd finally get that...

[Meek and Humble]

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Do we really need to go over this again?

When Xeon says "gas", the poster is not referring to fuel! I'd think after having it explained to you multiple times you'd finally get that...

If there's no fuel than what is the plane running on???

[Physics!]

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If there's no fuel than what is the plane running on???

Xeon said nothing at all about any fuel!

Obviously, the plane would have fuel. Xeon was talking about the gas (as in, not liquid or solid) outside the plane.

[ThSnook]

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Okay, there are some things incorrect of what you said, let me explain.

1) Jump!
First off, the earth has an atmosphere. It contains everything and makes it seem as if everything is in place. If the atmosphere didn't contain everything, then life would not exist on this planet, we would all be constantly flung back.
A good way to test this is inside a large moving van or truck. Say you're going fast down a road at a constant speed, and all doors are closed. Everything is contained right? So when you jump in that van, you land straight down. This is basic elementary physics in action.


2) Blow!
First off, gravity is a fact.
Secondly, the earth is so incredibly massive that it's gravitational force pulls us (Comparatively microscopic objects) toward it.
....There's really nothing to say more about that more here.
..Again, basic elementary physics.

3) Get High!
Incorrect, because if you DO get high enough you can actually see the curvature of the earth.
If you see a boat that leaves new york and goes to London (an almost straight path.) As you watch it leave on a clear day, if you look far enough, you can see it disappear from the bottom up. Because of how it curves, that last part of the boat you can see is the top because the bottom part is blocked off by the curvature.
A good analogy would be an ant on an orange:
Imagine an ant walking along the surface of an orange, into your field of view. If you look at the orange “head on”, you will see the ant’s body slowly rising up from the “horizon”, because of the curvature of the Orange. The ant would have slowly ‘materialized’ into view, depending on how sharp your vision is.


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Now that the fallacies of your arguments are shown. Here are just a few ways that prove the earth IS round.

Seeing Farther from Higher

Standing in a flat plateau, you look ahead of you towards the horizon. You strain your eyes, then take out your binoculars and stare through them, as far as your eyes (with the help of the binocular lenses) can see.
Then, you climb up the closest tree – the higher the better. You then look again, strain your eyes, stare through the binoculars out to the horizon.
The higher up you are the farther you will see. Usually, we tend to relate this to Earthly obstacles, like the fact we have houses or other trees obstructing our vision on the ground, and climbing upwards we have a clear view, but that’s not the true reason. Even if you would have a completely clear plateau with no obstacles between you and the horizon, you would see much farther from greater height than you would on the ground.
This phenomena is caused by the curvature of the Earth as well, and would not happen if the Earth was flat:




Varying Star Constellations

This observation was originally made by Aristotle (384-322 BCE), who declared the Earth was round judging from the different constellations one sees while moving away from the equator.

After returning from a trip to Egypt, Aristotle noted that “there are stars seen in Egypt and [...] Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions.” This phenomenon can only be explained with a round surface, and Aristotle continued and claimed that the sphere of the Earth is “of no great size, for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent.”

The farther you go from the equator, the farther the ‘known’ constellations go towards the horizon, and are replaced by different stars. This would not have happened if the world was flat:




Timezones

As you very well know, when you registered for this site, it asked what time zone you were in and you filled in your respected time zone. You are very well aware what time zones are.
If I told a friend in Australia to call me at 6:00 P.M. and didn't account for the time difference. Here in the States by the time he would call me at 3:00 P.M.
This is a FACT, this happens every day and is common knowledge. This can only be explained if the world is round, and rotating around its own axis. At a certain point when the sun is shining on one part of the Earth, the opposite side is dark, and vise versa. That allows for time differences and timezones, specifically ones that are larger than 12 hours.


There are countless other methods that I could go into. And they all point to the same thing..... The Earth is round. This is an absolute fact, there is no denying it.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

lies

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[BelieverInGod]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Actually, having read the article, it's clear that the guy is a nutjob.

Really? Exactly what are your credentials? Gravity IS JUST A THEORY!

I'm serious, ask for your money back.

I did read it. The author is a mormon. It's painfully obvious he has no idea what he's talking about.

I believe he said he's a confirmed atheist.

So you're admitting you know absolutely nothing about physics at all? Thank you.

No I said I had a BSc. and sucked at Physics. I still obviously know more than you do. Then again, I believe my 10-year-old son knows more about physics than you do.

I guess you didn't bother to read, but it's not magic.

It's still not magic; it's a fundamental property of matter.

Uh huh, according to you.

We both know I was talking about this "Lady Hope" person.

You do realize that denial isn't a river in Egypt, right?

Yes, "Dr." Schempp is wrong about everything.

Again, what are your credentials?

A quick internet search of Dr. Shempp

• 1967, Ellery received his Ph.D. in physics from Brown (not exactly the school you went to, now is it.
• He's a teacher at Tufts College
• He's a Unitarian Universalist, which is basically an atheist.
• He's a member of the American Humanist Association
• His work was the precourser to the MRI
• His thesis was "Nuclear Quadrupole Resonance in Nitrogen Heterocycles" What was yours?

It's not a religion any more than using a computer is a religion. If you think that using a computer is a religion, I suggest you immediately get rid of yours so it won't compete with Jesus anymore.

See, there you go proving that it's a religion. According to you a computer is "science" and therefore incapable of being used for Holy work.

No, in my mind, a strawman argument is any argument which attempts to make a simplified and absurd version of the opponents position. An example is you claiming I believe that the world came "from nothing" when I clearly don't.

So something that you disagree with.

If the Big band didn't come from nothing, what did it come from. I'm sure the entire Scientific community is waiting with baited breath for your keen insights, especially since you know more than Scientists with PhD's from Ivy League Universities.

What school did you go to again?

I'm a teacher, actually.

I'm so happy I home school.

You type this after claiming I must be in grade 7, and then later in the same post call me a "twit"? Do you know what the word "insult" means, or should I get you a dictionary?

Just because I insulted you doesn't mean it isn't right. Yes I know what an insult is, and I know what a retard is.

It's becoming more and more obvious that you don't know how technology is developed. Technology and science are more linked than you'd like to admit.

Technology is creating useful things. Science is a bunch of theories. My computer really exists, therefore it is technology. If it was science, it would only theoretically exist.

Again, what school did you go to? Not that I really believe you. I think you're some bored kid who's lying on the internet.

So you really think that all fire is caused by octane? ...wow...

By burning, twit.

So all you can do is throw insults, but you can't back up your position? I'll remember that.

I've backed it up with Ivy league scientists, exactly what have you backed yourself up with?

Of course. Go find a volcano. That stuff that spews out of it is called lava. While it's still inside the Earth it is called magma...which is molten rock.

Uh huh, and of course that couldn't happen in a flat earth right?

High-altitude flights let you start to see it.

Oh wow, so now you're a physics teacher and an astronaut. When did you receive your Nobel Prize? Are you also a professional weight lifter? A black belt in 14 different martial arts? Isn't lying on the Internet fun?

I did prove that you should "demand your money back" from your school, at least in regards to your English classes.

Pardon? I received my BsC. from Simon Fraser University. An accredited Canadian University (look them up if you don't believe me). My BBA from the University of Lethbridge, not as prestigious as SFU, but still accredited.

Again, what school did you go to? Oh never mind, you'll just lie and tell me you went to Yale or Harvard.

Atheists do nothing but lie.

[ThSnook]

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Also.....





WHAT MORE COULD YOU NEED?????