[Evilutionist Clive]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Hello, Clive.

I will show you what I have found within the last couple of months.
This will once and for all prove to you that the earth is flat.

1. Flight paths

Abu Dhabi to Texas flight path

This graphic shows the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA. The top graphic shows how the flight appears as it is tracked on a globe map. TOO LONG _ INCORRECT EVIDENCE = WORTH DELETING
YIC

What a streaming pile of BS. And you call yourself a PhD?


For the record, you did not provide any "graphic" showing the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA.


In comparison, I have provided you pictorial evidence of a real flight path from Sydney to Santiago. You can check it on Google if you don't believe me.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

The earth isn't flat. This theory has been debunked so many times.

1- Lots of images of a spherical Earth from the SPace. International Space Station, Hubble Telescope, and many others. They call our planet the PALE BLUE DOT for a reason.


2- When I fly from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, what I see on the Navigation screen is Roughly 7000 miles/11367 kilometres for a 14 hourtrip. Which is definitely what it takes. This is only possible in a spherical Earth.


Otherwise if the Earth were flat, the airplane would have to fly 26,000 km for a trip from Sydney to Santiago. Damn right impossible unless you flew the Atlantic route. All airplanes that connect Asia/Australia to Latin America or the West Coast of the US fly the Pacific route.

Just compare the pics of a hypothetical flat earth with an ACTUAL SPHERICAL EARTH, high time that all of you learn the truth.







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Hello, Clive.

I will show you what I have found within the last couple of months.
This will once and for all prove to you that the earth is flat.

1. Flight paths

Abu Dhabi to Texas flight path

This graphic shows the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA. The top graphic shows how the flight appears as it is tracked on a globe map. The bottom graphic shows how the flight path would look on a flat earth map. As you can see, the flight path on the ball earth map appears to take a strange northern loop and pass unnecessarily over land in the high northern latitudes. Why not just go in a straight line? On the flat earth map, however, the flight path going over land in the northern latitudes makes perfect sense, as it is a straight line from point A to point B.

If Earth was a ball, and Antarctica was too cold to fly over, the only logical way to fly from Sydney to Santiago would be a straight shot over the Pacific staying in the Southern hemisphere the entire way. Re-fueling could be done in New Zealand or other Southern hemisphere destinations along the way if absolutely necessary. In actual fact, however, Santiago-Sydney flights go into the Northern hemisphere making stop-overs at LAX and other North American airports before continuing back down to the Southern hemisphere. Such ridiculously wayward detours make no sense on the globe but make perfect sense and form nearly straight lines when shown on a flat Earth map.”.

“On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.”—Ibid

“On a ball-Earth Johannesburg, South Africa to Sao Paolo, Brazil should be a quick straight shot along the 25th Southern latitude, but instead nearly every flight makes a re- fueling stop at the 50th degree North latitude in London first! The only reason such a ridiculous stop-over works in reality is because the Earth is flat.” ~ Ibid

According to the Federal Aviation Association, no air flights have gone the much shorter routes over the Arctic and Antarctic due to cold weather effecting flights as well as having to effect rescue over such inhabited areas (what about the oceans?!). Another reason that is given is that airlines would be required to carry special survival equipment (jackets, boots?), even though thousands of hours of flight time and fuel consumption would be saved by going direct instead of Westward and Eastward directions.

“If Earth was a ball there are several flights in the Southern hemisphere which would have their quickest, straightest path over the Antarctic continent such as Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. Instead of taking the shortest, quickest route in a straight line over Antarctica, all such flights detour all manner of directions away from Antarctica instead claiming the temperatures too cold for airplane travel! Considering the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica, and NASA claims to have technology keeping them in conditions far colder (and far hotter) than any experienced on Earth, such an excuse is clearly just an excuse, and these flights aren’t made because they are impossible.”

2. Emergency landings

3. Commercial airplane crashes

4. The moon landing hoax

There is mountains of evidence that we never went to the moon. And that it has been filmed in Hollywood. I will not go any further into this one, but if you still believe in fairytales then you could start with this documentary.

5. The ISS hoax

Just like the moon landings. The "ISS" is filmed in Hollywood. It is a Freemason conspiracy.

6. There is no "space"

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

A piece of the firmament has been found.

So there you go: proof, if proof be need be.

YIC

[Evilutionist Clive]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm sorry, I'm not a Flat Earther. For the simple reason that if the world was flat then cats would have pushed everything off edge by now if it was.

The earth isn't flat. This theory has been debunked so many times.

1- Lots of images of a spherical Earth from the SPace. International Space Station, Hubble Telescope, and many others. They call our planet the PALE BLUE DOT for a reason.


2- When I fly from Sydney, Australia to Santiago, what I see on the Navigation screen is Roughly 7000 miles/11367 kilometres for a 14 hourtrip. Which is definitely what it takes. This is only possible in a spherical Earth.


Otherwise if the Earth were flat, the airplane would have to fly 26,000 km for a trip from Sydney to Santiago. Damn right impossible unless you flew the Atlantic route. All airplanes that connect Asia/Australia to Latin America or the West Coast of the US fly the Pacific route.

Just compare the pics of a hypothetical flat earth with an ACTUAL SPHERICAL EARTH, high time that all of you learn the truth.





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[Bezukhov]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm sorry, I'm not a Flat Earther. For the simple reason that if the world was flat then cats would have pushed everything off edge by now if it was.

[LW1997 (On Moderation)]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Most truly born again believers still don't believe it, but it is true. Well, they will know it when they're raptured.
Here some videos of brother Jason Jack of Montgomery, Alabama:

As well as sister Teal Summers:

And brother Hans Steijnhagen from the Netherlands:

Plus brother Detlef Daddowitz who's German like me:

It's very clear that the earth is flat, round and Antarctica is the border. That's also the reason no planes fly over Antarctica.

[Jim C. Lombardo]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Since my wife has satisfactorily rubbed and filed the corns on my feet, I am feeling generous and you won’t receive an infraction. Please navigate to our intro thread.

Thank you.

Speaking of feet, Brother Creeser, that reminds me of an observation I made to validate the flatness of our Earth. In my youth, I often walked about barefoot, and the soles of my feet are TOTALLY FLAT! Anyone can check them, from the toes to heel, they are as smooth as the President of Turkey's speech to conscript little girls.

[John Creeser]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Good day all,

Thank you for your effort to share your insights with us regarding your perspective of a flat Earth. Please allow me to share..


*BLAH BLAH*

Regards.

We are not interested in your opinion. You did not post any scripture to back up your wild claims (which has been covered over and over if you were not so lazy as to actually read the thread). You have violated our forum rules and regulations by not posting a proper introduction (in the introduction thread).

Since my wife has satisfactorily rubbed and filed the corns on my feet, I am feeling generous and you won’t receive an infraction. Please navigate to our intro thread.

Thank you.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Hello Curious Tony did you read my earlier post.

Isaiah 22:18a He will surely
violently turn and toss thee
like a ball into a large country

I put some thought into it, included visual examples supported by Scripture and then a.lyin'.kid turned up offering nothing more than one bald contradiction, a couple of insults and a pyromaniacal desire for conflagration of Bibles. Hardly an "argument" as I'm sure you'll agree. I referred kid to my post, which must have been on the same page even if he was viewing 5-posts-per-page but no response was forthcoming. It makes me feel as though the effort I put into my post was wasted and I can see you've spent at least a couple of minutes typing out your opinion, which I'm responding to, so am hopeful that if you link to my earlier post by clicking the ball [RIGHT] you will be able to cover the point I raised.

[Curious Tony]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Good day all,

Thank you for your effort to share your insights with us regarding your perspective of a flat Earth. Please allow me to share mine....


1) Jump!


As you noted, scientists claim that the Earth is rotating at 700-1000 miles per hour depending on your latitude. You therefore suggest jumping to demonstrate that this is not true. Unfortunately, that doesn't test the claim since everything on Earth is rotating at that speed (give or take). This includes you.


So when you jump up and the Earth is rotating at 700-1000 miles per hour so are you. Relative to the surface of the Earth however you are not moving. Relative to you - the Earth is not moving. The Earth is moving only in relation to its own axis.


You noted a flat bed experiment that if you were on the flat bed of a truck traveling at 75 mph and you jump straight up, you note that you would not land in the same spot. Well actually, that depends. If you were inside the trailer of a transport truck traveling at 75 mph, you would in fact land in the same spot. The difference being that on a flat bed truck, you would be experiencing a wind against you at about 75 mph (provided its calm weather). Inside the trailer of a transport truck, you would not experience wind and would therefore drop right where you jumped from


2) Blow!


I am not sure why you titled this section 'blow' but the idea here is that people on the bottom side of the spherical Earth will fall off. But why would they fall off? What force or influence would cause them to go 'down'?
If you stop for a moment and ask what direction an Australian would call down in a spherical Earth model, you would see that down for them is pointing at the center of the Earth - the same is true for us of course.
Gravity is not a theory - it is a fact and you can even do an experiment in your own home to see it. There are many articles online that show you how, but I prefer a much nicer demonstration than the simple ones we can do at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E43-CfukEgs


I know some people suggest we are held to the ground by buoyancy for example but this experiment clearly shows that's not it.


In this experiment, scientists use a vacuum chamber and drop a feather and a large weight inside a vacuum and the feather falls just as fast as the weight. You can do this at home too but since we can't create a proper vacuum to test in, we need to use two objects of the same size and shape but with different weights. They will fall at the same rate.


Your balloon experiment is very insightful but you forgot to take into account that the absolutely MASSIVE Earth is below our would be balloon test. Should we really expect a balloon to exert more gravity on the piece of paper than the whole Earth does? If you did the experiment in deep space, it might actually work - but I'm not doing that test anytime soon.


3) Get High!


Nice idea but still rather flawed. If I go up some elevation, even on a curved Earth, I should still expect to see further. But since you brought this idea up, a really cool demonstration of the curved Earth is what was one of the first demonstrations of a curved Earth.


Ancient mariners observed long ago that when sailing ships sailed out to sea, the eventually disappear entirely. They don't disappear suddenly either but actually begin to disappear from the bottom. This is because the Earth is curved and the part of sailing ship we lose sight of first is the bottom.


I was going to provide a link to YouTube where you can see many first hand recordings of this behavior along with some good narration and explanation but I'll leave that to you if you care to learn more. Be careful though, you do need to be careful as there are lots of amateurs making big mistakes when doing these tests.


If you are interested, I would be more than happy to discuss these points in greater detail.


Regards.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

The Earth isn't flat.

Did you read my post about Isaiah? How do you explain that? Why did he describe the world as circular when he could have described it as spherical?

[a.lyin'.kid]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Join the ReRe Train, because you're retarded. Congrats. The Earth isn't flat. Shut the fuck up already. I really wish I could burn all the bibles, so people stop listening to this horse crap.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Based on your delayed dismissal, I can only assume you read my points, realized you could not refute them, and decided instead to ignore them. Very nice.


Oh, I'm sorry, am I supposed to read 514 pages of argument that went in circles with no intelligence on either side? I'm trying to start a new discussion. If you are truly able to prove your beliefs, you should be able to prove it to me.

Oi Ralphsky,
Miss Joanna did not answer you because she was sleeping, like any normal person. As soon as she saw the tripe and balderdash you were rabbiting on about she decided to read no further.


We have spent a lot of time and effort compiling these 514 pages of compelling proof that the earth is flat. Maybe if YOU took the time to read everything instead of skimming YOU might find that you my dear little friend of the halva munching variety are wrong.


TTFN
TT

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I've been making bread and there was something on about The Bible. They said that when Isaiah described a "circle" he used that word because he didn't have a word for "sphere" and straight on with some examples:

. . . .

ISAIAH 40 . KJV . look up
22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Did God have words to describe spherical objects? Well this is where context is so important. I read all of Isaiah and right there, FROM THE SAME AUTHOR writing in the same language and addressing the same audience, right there in chapter twenty-two we have:

ISAIAH 22 . KJV . look up
17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee.
18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord' house.
19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down.

Do these freaks just say whatever comes into their head without looking anything up? When they say Oh, that language didn't have a word for ball-shaped what expertise do they have in the language? None. We know that because there is a word for ball and the author used it when he meant ball..

The earth was described using a different word because the earth is not ball-shaped.

[Didymus Much]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Based on your delayed dismissal, I can only assume you read my points, realized you could not refute them, and decided instead to ignore them...

Gee, weren't you just accusing someone of dismissing another's viewpoint without doing them the courtesy of at least familiarizing themselves with it?

...Oh, I'm sorry, am I supposed to read 514 pages of argument that went in circles...

Yes. A courteous person would, so they'd know what arguments have already been made (and refuted), in order to not look a fool by rehashing points that have already been covered ad nauseum.

...with no intelligence on either side?...

More dismissal? Of ALL THE CONTRIBUTORS to this thread NO MATTER WHAT THEY TRIED TO SAY, WITHOUT EVEN READING IT?

Even if you're not an asshole, you're doing a great impression of one.

...I'm trying to start a new discussion. If you are truly able to prove your beliefs, you should be able to prove it to me.

Go learn what the words "belief" and "proof" mean. With one, you have no need of the other.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Don't be mean to Joanna.

Bless you, Sister, but there's no need to defend me from this sort of nonsense. From his "delayed dismissal" comment, I assume this young person thinks we're all constantly online, hanging on every new poster's every word and just poised to answer their inanities!

Oddly enough, I see that my response was fairly similar to Didymus's (this must be some sort of first ) but strangely enough he didn't feel the need to abuse Didy. It's much easier for this sort of person to bully women online.

YiC
Joanna