[Roland]

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you people are relentless. I bet you can't have a single conversation without it ending with "have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior"? [...]

I´ll bite: Have you been touched by His Noodly Appendage?

[Aerospace Engineer]

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I do see the truth now. The lord hath taken me into his arms and flew me high into the heavens. From there, I saw that the earth is indeed round, AND AS FLAT AS A SILVER DOLLAR.

Thank you everybody for this glorious experience.

[Cranky Old Man]

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I do see the truth now. The lord hath taken me into his arms and flew me high into the heavens. From there, I saw that the earth is indeed round, AND AS FLAT AS A SILVER DOLLAR.

Thank you everybody for this glorious experience.

I am very glad to hear that.

Now please pull that sin stick out of your behind and start studying God's Holy Bible until your eyes bleed!

[MitzaLizalor]

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@Aerospace Engineer So are you saying that notwithstanding The Bible's contradicting engineers and Jesus being a fraud from the outset, as seemed to be your position, you realise His ascent into Heaven refutes your earlier claims?

[Aerospace Engineer]

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Absolutely my claims have been refuted. His ascent into heaven, and eventually ours, is the final departure from the earth we lived. We will turn back and take our final look at the earth in which we live, which was created, in its pure and true form... flat.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Absolutely my claims have been refuted. His ascent into heaven, and eventually ours, is the final departure from the earth we lived. We will turn back and take our final look at the earth in which we live, which was created, in its pure and true form... flat.

Thanks for replying. I have another question, hope you don't mind..



.FIRMAMENT

We know that resting above the world there is a firmament. God explains that it is there, provides some details about its construction (such as its strength). When Jesus ascended into Heaven—which is above the firmament and not normally visible—He was able to pass through, possibly via a window. As an engineer, are you able to suggest how a dome structure would be affected by windows? There is a reason why I'm asking connected with another thread concerning the possible shape of the firmament. Would a less regular shape than the dome I've used for my illustrations be less compromised by opening windows?

• . . • . . • . . • . . •

Jesus’ ascension is a critical element in Christian faith and the historical record has several important events to show us that Heaven is just up there above the sky and that it does become visible on occasions.

MARK'S EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT

Mark 16:19 KJV So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

When I look up Heaven is not visible. The firmament is opaque. But Mark could see Jesus not only ascend into Heaven but where He was located when He got there. The firmament had opened momentarily.

LUKE'S

Luke 24:46-51 KJV [Jesus speaking] Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

Elsewhere Luke has given more detail concerning Jesus and His reception into Heaven during which more than just a window was opened. Engineers often say that there is no firmament, nowhere for Jesus to ascend into, and that therefore this account is a deliberate and knowing lie. Especially electrical engineers for some reason. But what they overlook is that there are other instances of Heaven opening and more than just one witness of this occurrence! Later, Stephen also saw what was going on in Heaven because the sky opened sufficiently for at least a glimpse of Jesus. This is how we know He is in Heaven now!

STEPHEN SAW IT TOO

Acts 7:54-56 KJV CONTEXT When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. But he [Stephen] being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

If the sky were transparent, as I believe is taught in secularist schools, Heaven above would be visible all the time. Faith would be unnecessary and Salvation would be set back by centuries. So what is meant by "Heaven opening" like does it open like a clam shell, which would give a pretty wide angle of view? Or could parts of the firmament become transparent briefly, like that smart glass or something?

[Elmer G. White]

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Absolutely my claims have been refuted. His ascent into heaven, and eventually ours, is the final departure from the earth we lived. We will turn back and take our final look at the earth in which we live, which was created, in its pure and true form... flat.

This is excellent news for Jesus. And - if we consider that you must have been a sinner of the worst kind by persecuting Christians - this becomes even more excellent news for you regarding your future position in Heaven, IF you persist.

Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

The worse the sinner, the more there is joy over him, the more prestigious his place in Heaven shall be. These last posts are a moving testimony of the power of Jesus.



Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Des]

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Absolutely my claims have been refuted. His ascent into heaven, and eventually ours, is the final departure from the earth we lived. We will turn back and take our final look at the earth in which we live, which was created, in its pure and true form... flat.

Are you here about the sound system on my jet? Because I've been telling you people for a week now that you aren't going to fix it over the phone, and you certainly aren't going to fix t over the internet.

[mountainmike57]

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Well, I have seen LOTS of pictures from space that show a ROUND earth. How can you explain that. Gravity is what keeps us from flying off into space along with the atmosphere. We would not be here if God did not make the earth PERFECT for us. The flatness is only because you can only see to the curve of the sky. That is the reason you even could have International flight...otherwise you would fly off the edge...since it is past the horizon...as far as you can see

Sorry, but science does prove that there is a round earth....but so do pictures from space..

[Elmer G. White]

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Well, I have seen LOTS of pictures from space that show a ROUND earth. How can you explain that. Gravity is what keeps us from flying off into space along with the atmosphere. We would not be here if God did not make the earth PERFECT for us. The flatness is only because you can only see to the curve of the sky. That is the reason you even could have International flight...otherwise you would fly off the edge...since it is past the horizon...as far as you can see

Sorry, but science does prove that there is a round earth....but so do pictures from space..

Dear Mike,

I have also seen many photographs of 'planets' from space. Here is one for you:



It is the 'moon' called Pandora. It is very detailed and believable. I'd like to ask you if it is real because there are many photographs of it. Then compare it to the photos of 'planet' Earth and tell me what the difference is.

Do you really trust second-hand information or do you trust Jesus?



2 Samuel 22:31
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[James Hutchins]

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you people are relentless. I bet you can't have a single conversation without it ending with "have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior"? The personalities of a broom closet lol.

I said what I came to say. I have no demons. I am a very happy person, much happier than when I was being suppressed. You simply do not believe in free will do you?

I promise the day I'm unhappy with my decision to abandon religion, I'll walk to the end of the earth and jump off. 😆

Good day.

Welcome friend. While I took the time from from my busy schedule of Praising Jesus to read some of your jibber Jabber, your claims have all been nothing more than '...because I said so...' where as we have the writings of the actual creator to back us up. The difference here being you are using made up stories and trying to repudiate accepted fact that is over 6,000 year old. Are you 6,0000 years old? I did not think so. You've sat in a classroom and listened to a guy tell you lies for a paycheck all as part of of the liebral agenda to destroy decency and the Christian way.
Do not go to the ends of the Earth and jump off. God and this Church can Save you.

[mountainmike57]

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Dear Mike,

I have also seen many photographs of 'planets' from space. Here is one for you:



It is the 'moon' called Pandora. It is very detailed and believable. I'd like to ask you if it is real because there are many photographs of it. Then compare it to the photos of 'planet' Earth and tell me what the difference is.

Do you really trust second-hand information or do you trust Jesus?



2 Samuel 22:31
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

Sorry again. But REALLY????????????

I tend to look with my EYES....... Sorry. I am going to drop off this....
Obviously you have never flown in a plane..... When you are 34000 ft above the earth...you can see the HORIZON..... The horizon is only as far as YOU can see...not where the earth ends. SHOW ME MORE... if you dare.
I am a TRUE Christian........ and a scientist. Sorry, but you need to really check your sources..... And STOP sending me infractions...
Obviously this is SLANTED publication. Don't worry. I'll go quietly..... Please DO NOT send me ANY MORE Messages.

[mountainmike57]

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Sorry again. But REALLY????????????

I tend to look with my EYES....... Sorry. I am going to drop off this....
Obviously you have never flown in a plane..... When you are 34000 ft above the earth...you can see the HORIZON..... The horizon is only as far as YOU can see...not where the earth ends. SHOW ME MORE... if you dare.
I am a TRUE Christian........ and a scientist. Sorry, but you need to really check your sources..... And STOP sending me infractions...
Obviously this is SLANTED publication. Don't worry. I'll go quietly..... Please DO NOT send me ANY MORE Messages.

Also,... THere is NO scripture that proves the earth is FLAT... I dare you to show me ONE. You are just like the people that told Columbus he would fly off the earth... REALLY?

Here is a good verse:
2 Peter 3:9
9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Read 2 Peter 3

[James Hutchins]

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Well, I have seen LOTS of pictures from space that show a ROUND earth. How can you explain that. Gravity is what keeps us from flying off into space along with the atmosphere. We would not be here if God did not make the earth PERFECT for us. The flatness is only because you can only see to the curve of the sky. That is the reason you even could have International flight...otherwise you would fly off the edge...since it is past the horizon...as far as you can see

Sorry, but science does prove that there is a round earth....but so do pictures from space..

Hi Mike! Do this. Place a quarter (or better, a empty apple pie plate. I like apple pie, do you?) on a table. Paint it to look like one the artist renditions of how the Earth appears in the Heavens to God. Now, compare the two images. Doesn't the quarter (or apple pie plate, I just love hot pie) Don't they both look perfectly round? With edges?

If there were such a thing as 'gravity' it would pull uss to Chine or worse, pull the slants to America. Never happened, never will. That is because of 'Intelligent Pulling' which is not being drawn down into the hell fires of the Earth but rather God's loving hands, holding us in our place.

I can see about 20 miles on a good day, How far can you see Mike? I believe (and I'm no Biblical scholar) but the Earth is bigger than twenty miles. I certainly cannot see every person on Earth as I turn my head about standing in the place that I am.

[Elmer G. White]

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Also,... THere is NO scripture that proves the earth is FLAT... I dare you to show me ONE. You are just like the people that told Columbus he would fly off the earth... REALLY?

Here is a good verse:
2 Peter 3:9
9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Read 2 Peter 3

How easy life would be and how many sinners would be Saved if people actually had the tiny amount of patience that it takes to 1) read through this entire thread and 2) actually read through the entire Bible.

Yours questions are valid. Had you taken the effort to go back just two (2) pages, you could see that your inquiries have been answered. Go to post #9950.



Proverbs 12:24
The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

PS. I am sorry that I am a bit snappy, but the female members of my household are experiencing Leviticus 15:19-30 and it is most exhausting. I know it takes a lot of time understand A) that sin causes delusions B) sent by God and, thus, C) you cannot trust your observations. You can only trust the Bible.