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  • F. Nietzsche
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    Re: Happy birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
    I would accept your' arguement if you provided a scriptural bases for your "Old Universe" theory. Anyway how do you know the universe is 13.5 billion years old? Were you there?
    Causality necessitates it.

    The furthest quasars are 13 billion or more light years from Earth, as determined by redshift. Because the speed of light is a constant in a relative vacuum such as space, the overall envelope of causality for our visible universe would be only 6010 light years distance, as opposed to many billions of them.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Just a reminder that the earth's birthday is coming up. And True Christians™ might want to pick up a few extra copies of THIS book.

    Was world created 6,012 years ago – this month?
    Get the book that charts history from that date through 70 AD

    How old is the world?

    Most people would say: "Nobody knows."

    But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written theorized the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it 6,012 years old this month.

    Have you ever thought about the world having a birthday?

    What a great way to commemorate the date by getting the world's most remarkable history book – a standard classical education tool for homeschoolers and others who care about a biblical perspective on history.

    In the 1650s, an Anglican bishop named James Ussher published his "Annals of the World," subtitled, "The Origin of Time, and Continued to the Beginning of the Emperor Vespasian's Reign and the Total Destruction and Abolition of the Temple and Commonwealth of the Jews." First published in Latin, it consisted of more than 1,600 pages.

    The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers and those who take ancient history seriously. It's the history of the world from the Garden of Eden to the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.

    Of course, there will be those who disagree with Ussher's calculations of time – especially evolutionists who need billions of years to explain their theory of how life sprang from non-life and mutated from one-celled animals into human beings.

    Ussher's arrival at the date of Oct. 23 was based on the fact that most peoples of antiquity, especially the Jews, started their calendar at harvest time. Ussher concluded there must be good reason for this, so he chose the first Sunday following autumnal equinox.

    Although the autumnal equinox is Sept. 21 today, that is only because of historical calendar-juggling to make the years come out right.

    If you think this is a startling fact – an actual date for Creation – you haven't seen anything until you've pored through the rest of Ussher's "Annals of the World." It's a classic history book for those who believe in the Bible – and a compelling challenge for those who don't.

    The new edition of "Annals" is one of the most significant publishing events of the 21st century.

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    • Why was Julius Caesar kidnapped in 75 B.C.?

    • Why did Alexander the Great burn his ships in 326 B.C.?

    • What really happened when the sun "went backward" as a sign to Hezekiah?

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      Ussher traveled throughout Europe, gathering much information from the actual historical documents. Many of these documents are no longer available, having been destroyed since the time of his research.

      Integrating biblical history (around 15 percent of the text is from the Bible) with secular sources, Ussher wrote this masterpiece. Considered not only a literary classic, but also an accurate reference, "Annals of the World" was so highly regarded for its preciseness that the timeline from it was included in the margins of many King James Version Bibles throughout the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries.

      "The Annals of the World" is a necessary addition to any church library, pastor's library, or any library – public or personal. The entire text has been updated from 17th-century English to present-day vernacular in a five-year project commissioned by Master Books. Containing many human-interest stories from the original historical documents collected by Ussher, this is more than just a history book – it's a work of history.

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    • Traces world history from creation through A.D. 70

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    • One of history's most famous and well-respected historians

    • Spent over five years researching and writing this book

    • Entered college at age 13

    • Received his master's degree at age 18

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    This is one of the most important literary, historical and Christian works you'll ever own, a treasure for any home library. It's a must for your homeschool library.

    For generations, this classic work was considered part of the essential reading for educated people. Now you can read it – in English.

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  • Wide-Open
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by patrickzzz View Post
    universe is much older then 6000 years old
    Indeed, 10 years.

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  • patrickzzz
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    universe is much older then 6000 years old

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  • Shoebarf
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Hmmm, the universe is quite a lot older than that. Carbon-14 dating proves it.

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by tolarence View Post
    I am sorry pastor i was typing fast and i switched two letters , and i neglect to use capital letters and proper punctuation, like i said, i type fast.
    You don't type fast; you type sloppily and lazily. My secretary types fast, about 115 words per minute, and the results are flawless. You could type both fast and accurately if you weren't too lazy to learn to do so.

    "Typing fast" is no excuse. This post of mine is free of typos, grammatical errors, and spelling mistakes, yet I typed it at roughly 75 words per minute.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • tolarence
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    I am sorry pastor i was typing fast and i switched two letters , and i neglect to use capital letters and proper punctuation, like i said, i type fast.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by tolarence View Post
    it is not , i am sorry to say but there are records of other "non-god" people from before that time, and you know carbon dating shows it is much old, again not bashing or anything just letting u know facts, if you don't think im right , i accept that :]
    Son, you can't even spell tolerance much less do you understand the concept. This is a Christian forum; We are not interested in your unsaved opinions.

    We follow the Holy Bible. You should too.

    And find your "Shift" key before Jesus decides you should be tossed out of here.

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  • tolarence
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    it is not , i am sorry to say but there are records of other "non-god" people from before that time, and you know carbon dating shows it is much old, again not bashing or anything just letting u know facts, if you don't think im right , i accept that :]

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  • Pastor Isaac Peters
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
    How do you know Sumerians invented glue 1000 years before?
    I was wondering the same thing, Brother. Surprisingly enough , the Bible says nothing of the sort.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by Evolution View Post
    4,004 B.C...about 1000 years after the Sumerians invented glue? Brilliance.
    How do you know Sumerians invented glue 1000 years before? How could anything get invented when there wasn't even humans around, let alone a universe?

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  • Evolution
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    4,004 B.C...about 1000 years after the Sumerians invented glue? Brilliance.

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  • ehal
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by Pastor Billy-Reuben View Post
    The phase "all scripture" means the whole Bible, not every Bible version.


    It's not true. The Catholic Church desperately wanted to keep an easy-to-read accurately translated Bible out of the hands of the masses, and one of the tactics they employed to stop it was to spread false rumors about the man who commissioned its translation.

    You can learn more about it here.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben
    Thanks for the clarification.

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Re: Happy 6,010th birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by ehal View Post
    I think you can understand if I'm a little confused. Perhaps not all of your group agrees with each other. If all scripture is totally true and trustworthy why do you prefer the King James?
    The phase "all scripture" means the whole Bible, not every Bible version.

    Originally posted by ehal View Post
    I'm not the one questioning it. I would assume that you would be more likely to, considering you would be the one to trust this "queer" implying he was divinely inspired. And, it was not a hateful accusation, I was asking a simple question. I've heard that King James was homosexual (this is not hateful), but since I have not done research on the subject myself, I was curious if it were true.
    It's not true. The Catholic Church desperately wanted to keep an easy-to-read accurately translated Bible out of the hands of the masses, and one of the tactics they employed to stop it was to spread false rumors about the man who commissioned its translation.

    You can learn more about it here.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • ehal
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    Re: Happy birthday, universe!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Please read my sermon on the subject HERE, and ou will have your question answered in full.




    Please show us the proof of your hateful accusation.

    Even assuming it was true, don't you know that God uses us all as He sees fit? If God wants to use a queer to spread His Holy Word all over the world, then who are you to question it?

    I'm not the one questioning it. I would assume that you would be more likely to, considering you would be the one to trust this "queer" implying he was divinely inspired. And, it was not a hateful accusation, I was asking a simple question. I've heard that King James was homosexual (this is not hateful), but since I have not done research on the subject myself, I was curious if it were true.

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