[LyingDingDong]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Bacteria undergo meiosis every twenty minutes. This would mean that a given population of bacteria doubles every twenty minutes. Bacteria don't just double without bound, however. They die as well. Not counting new bacteria produced, the half-life of a population of bacteria is twenty minutes plus fifteen microseconds.

The growth rate of 100%/20 minutes minus the decay rate of 49.99997473%/20 minutes provides bacteria with an overall global growth rate of about 1.1762% annually.

There are roughly 5E+30, or 5 nonillian, bacteria on our planet today. If we work backwards from 5E+30 with a 1.1762% growth rate, compounded every twenty minutes, we find that the first bacterium appeared about 6000 years ago, just as Creation Science predicted.

Try this on your financial calculator:
FV=5E+30
PV=1
Int=1.1762/(3*24*365.25)%
compute NPER=157935000 twenty minute intervals

158045000 / (3*24*365.25) = 6009.77 years.

GLORY!

There is some rounding going on in there. I suspect the true number of bacteria on the planet is closer to 5.0004832E+30, which would mean the first bacteria appeared exactly 6010 years and three days ago, on the third day of creation, along with the other plants.

However, if we assume as the evolutionists do, that the first bacterium appeared 3.5 billion years ago, we wind up with a ridiculously large number of bacteria, approximately 1E+26510000, or 1E+26509970 times the number of bacteria we actually have.

A single bacterium weighs 95 picograms. The number of bacteria that evolution predicts would weigh 9.5E+26509984 kilograms, a clearly ridiculous value. But our whole planet, including all of the bacteria on it, only weighs about 6E+24 kilograms.

That's the wacky world of evolution for you!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

First off, bacteria undergo mitosis, only animals, plants, fungi, and some protists undergo meiosis.

Secondly, C-14 is a reoccurring isotope that can be created through unremitting cosmic rays that impacts on nitrogen in the Earth's atmosphere, which creates more of the Carbon-14 isotope. So all the Carbon-14 isotope would have, indeed, vanished long ago if it wasn't for the earth creating more every day.

[gboybig]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I just did the math and you are absolutely right.
Isnt math such a wonderful thing. It just pretty much proved evolution rong. You gotta love that. But if you show this to an evolutionary believer and they will call you mad.... makes sense dont it. People these days, they just don't want to do the math -sighs- what has happened to the world?

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

No, I don't actually believe that carbon emissions have any effect on the environment. But the evolutionists do, so according their dogma they are helping to destroy the planet.

[handofgod]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

are you serius? or are you just trying to be funny? And the carbon used for dating the fossils is not bad for the ozon.

[Buford T Scoggins]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I just realized something. If carbon is really destroying the Earth like al-Gore and his cronies are claiming, then aren't these evolutionists contributing to its destruction by using carbon to "date" their fossils?

If that's not hypocrisy, what is?

Evolutionists are dating fossils? I used to date a girl older than myself, but I wouldn't call her a fossil - middle aged at best.

YIC,
Buford

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I just realized something. If carbon is really destroying the Earth like al-Gore and his cronies are claiming, then aren't these evolutionists contributing to its destruction by using carbon to "date" their fossils?

If that's not hypocrisy, what is?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Once the Carbon decays, then it becomes a new element that can take billions of years to decompose or even a few seconds. So that would refute the fact that there's not enough Carbon. And new rocks are formed. It's very accurate.

That is utter nonsense. Carbon 14 decays into Nitrogen 12 and a beta particle. Nitrogen 12 makes up about 70% of the atmosphere, and it is not radioactive. Not even a little bit. It's about as stable an element as God created. In fact, the only thing that Nitrogen 12 becomes is more Carbon 14, when it interacts with firmament rays in the upper atmosphere, which means there's even more missing Carbon 14 that you can't explain!

Which diploma mill awarded your microbiology degree, anyway? You're obviously not a real scientist, and we don't appreciate people coming into our forums pretending to be something that they aren't.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I am one and I can say that the formula used cannot determine when Jesus will come back. He will come back when he is needed, not according to some numbers.

Friend, I wasn't expecting a microbiologist to be able to predict when Jesus will return -- that would be absurd.

If you are a microbiologist, then my question for you is roughly how many bacteria can the earth support, within a few orders of magnitude?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[mead11]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Brother, anyone (scientist) who says the earth is old doesn't know how to do math.

Scientists use "radio carbon dating" to determine how old things are.

Lets use one of their concepts "half-life" to see how stupid they are.

A half life is the decay rate of an element. Carbon-14 has a half life of 5730 years (or so). That means, 5730 years ago there was twice as much Carbon-14 as there is now.

Scientists claim that the earth is 3.5 billion years old. For a half life of 5730, that's 610,820 half lives for carbon-14.

If there's only one pound of carbon-14 in the world today, before 610,820 half lives, there would be:

1 half life 2 lbs
2 half lives 4; 8; 16; 32; 64; 126; 256; 512; (for ease) 1000; 2000; 4000; 8000; 16000; 32000; 64000; 126,000; 256,000; 512,000; (for ease) 1,000,000; 2,000,000; 4,000,000; 8,000,000; 16,000,000; 32,000,000; 64,000,000; 128,000,000; 256,000,000; 512,000,000...

That's a whole lot of carbon. Before 29 half-lives, saying there's only one pound of carbon-14 today; we get a number of 512 billion pounds of carbon 14. That's in only 166,170 years. We aren't anywhere near the million mark, let alone the billion year mark.

Well lets start with this:

Once the Carbon decays, then it becomes a new element that can take billions of years to decompose or even a few seconds. So that would refute the fact that there's not enough Carbon. And new rocks are formed. It's very accurate.

Is there a microbiologist in the house, who can answer that question?

I am one and I can say that the formula used cannot determine when Jesus will come back. He will come back when he is needed, not according to some numbers.

[Star-Child]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Yes--you are following the Bible literally. That is a fact. I am merely observing the results of a community following that particular venue in religion.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I have to refer to them as opinions from my standpoint. I understand your insistence that you are right--I do sympathize completely, having my own beliefs which have been challenged before when I simply know they are right. It's difficult for us all, no doubt. That's why I compliment all of you for standing by your beliefs so strongly. It is a good contribution to humanity.

I do not understand you hesitation here. It is really simple to see if our opinion are right friend. Just look in The Bible; what it says is what we TRUE Christians(tm) believe and that is why we are the correct way.

Disagreeing with our opinion is essence disagreeing with God's.

[Star-Child]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

I have to refer to them as opinions from my standpoint. I understand your insistence that you are right--I do sympathize completely, having my own beliefs which have been challenged before when I simply know they are right. It's difficult for us all, no doubt. That's why I compliment all of you for standing by your beliefs so strongly. It is a good contribution to humanity.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Thank you all for your information. Your reactions are also very helpful. I appreciate the opportunity to listen to your opinions.

Friend,

These aren't "our" opinions, they are Jesus'. We just humble accept His TRUTH(tm).

[Star-Child]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Thank you all for your information. Your reactions are also very helpful. I appreciate the opportunity to listen to your opinions.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof of a Young Earth

Thank you, but I didn't ask for instructions on your version of salvation.

I want to know why you believe that your religion is the proper path for all humans to follow.

Because The Bible is so correct on everything. No proper Christian scientist has ever show any error in The Bible and all it's prophecies have come true. Only God could have written The Bible so therefor following The Bible is the one, true way friend.