[Lisa H]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Then, how can it be reflected by a mirror? After light hits a mirror, it bounces off. Light bouncing off of objects is what allows you to see. As light ricochets off an object, it will enter the pupil of your eye where it will then make contact with your retina. This causes your retina to generate an electrical current which is sent via the optical nerve to the brain. The brain then converts this electrical signal to an image.

The same exact process allows a camera to work.

And yes, light travels at 186.000 miles per second.
Light is diffuse energy. Therefore, it won't put holes in you.

There is no such thing as light reflection. Light is just there or it is not. You are confusing light with electricity.

[PRS1988]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Well that's backwards isn't it. In order to prove the star is millions of light years away, you have to prove that the earth is millions of years old.

Sorry, but we know for a fact that the earth is just a little over 6,000 years old. All you need to do is count the generations in the Bible.

How can the earth be just over 6,000 years old? I personally have handled human remains (not homo sapien mind you but Homo Neanderthalensis) which are at least 500,000 years old which have bee radio carbon dated which gives us this date, radio carbon dating whilst not pin point accurate gives us a result within around 20,000 years so there is no chance that these remains are from 6,000 years ago because for one there were no Homo Neanderthalensis alive 6,000 years ago as they were extinct around 32,000 years ago. Go into any museum in your local city etc and see if they have anything remotely to do with early humanity as this will definitely be over the supposed fact that the earth is 6,000 years old or around-a-bouts. In the summer I was on an excavation where we excavated human remains from around 10,000 years ago which appeared to be late neolithic/early bronze age remains. So there is solid evidence that the earth is well over 6,000 years old. A bit of topic but if the earth is over 6,000 years old as it is a proven fact then as your date for the earth's age in wrong then it can be as old as some of these people are saying.

[Lisa H]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

How can the earth be just over 6,000 years old? I personally have handled human remains (not homo sapien mind you but Homo Neanderthalensis) which are at least 500,000 years old which have bee radio carbon dated which gives us this date, radio carbon dating whilst not pin point accurate gives us a result within around 20,000 years so there is no chance that these remains are from 6,000 years ago because for one there were no Homo Neanderthalensis alive 6,000 years ago as they were extinct around 32,000 years ago. Go into any museum in your local city etc and see if they have anything remotely to do with early humanity as this will definitely be over the supposed fact that the earth is 6,000 years old or around-a-bouts. In the summer I was on an excavation where we excavated human remains from around 10,000 years ago which appeared to be late neolithic/early bronze age remains. So there is solid evidence that the earth is well over 6,000 years old. A bit of topic but if the earth is over 6,000 years old as it is a proven fact then as your date for the earth's age in wrong then it can be as old as some of these people are saying.

There is already a thread on this topic. I suggest you do a search and find it.

[PRS1988]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

I saw, but there was a question which was part of the argument on how the earth is only 6,000 years old so light couldn't possibly be millions of years old etc I was just disproving this point.

[Lisa H]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

I saw, but there was a question which was part of the argument on how the earth is only 6,000 years old so light couldn't possibly be millions of years old etc I was just disproving this point.

Thats why it impossible for light to be millions of years old.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

I saw, but there was a question which was part of the argument on how the earth is only 6,000 years old so light couldn't possibly be millions of years old etc I was just disproving this point.

Are you calling God a liar?

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[PRS1988]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Thats why it impossible for light to be millions of years old.

This reply does not really make sense, the information I wrote supports the fact that because the earth is a lot older than 6,000 years old then it is possible for the earth to be millions of years old (which it is as a fact) so therefore the universe is millions of years old and more, so light can reach us because other stars which generate the light are in fact millions of years old.

And Cindy I would never say that god is a liar as that would offend a great many people but the information you believe has to be taken with a pinch of salt because of the undeniable evidence that contradicts it.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Hey Mr. letters and numbers, since you seem to know your "science" so well, would you mind answering a question for me?

If light really moves at 186,000 miles per second why isn't it shooting holes in us? ANYTHING hitting us that fast would surely kill us.

[PRS1988]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Hey Mr. letters and numbers, since you seem to know your "science" so well, would you mind answering a question for me?

If light really moves at 186,000 miles per second why isn't it shooting holes in us? ANYTHING hitting us that fast would surely kill us.

This was explained on the page before this, light has no physical properties like say a stone does, if a stone hit us at that speed then it would get rather messy like you said but as light has no physical properties it is not going to damage us in anyway.

Light reflects off objects around the world and back to our eyes which then makes our brain to create the image. I am not a physicist I am an archaeologist but even though light and its speeds are not my area of expertise it is basic common knowledge that light does indeed travel that fast but doesn't hurt us as it has no physical properties.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Really? Because when I look on the previous page all I see is a blind dismissal of my point...

I thought you secular types were in agreement that photons had mass. Please explain to me how something with mass hitting you at 186,000 miles per second won't cause any damage to you.

[PRS1988]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Really? Because when I look on the previous page all I see is a blind dismissal of my point...

I thought you secular types were in agreement that photons had mass. Please explain to me how something with mass hitting you at 186,000 miles per second won't cause any damage to you.

As I said I am no physicist ha, my area of expertise is mainly the past and the long time dead. Physics I could never grasp in school I am afraid so you will have to find someone out there who knows this area a bit better than myself. I only put my 2 cents in mainly on the age of the earth which was a point in this argument. I cant argue the case in detail as I do not know physics apart from the basics

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

As I said I am no physicist ha, my area of expertise is mainly the past and the long time dead. Physics I could never grasp in school I am afraid so you will have to find someone out there who knows this area a bit better than myself. I only put my 2 cents in mainly on the age of the earth which was a point in this argument. I cant argue the case in detail as I do not know physics apart from the basics

Well, my point here is that the physics don't add up. No matter how you look at the problem from a secular viewpoint you only end up with a bunch of unanswered questions and ridiculous equations that don't prove anything real.

So why not get your answers from the ONLY source that is not only consistent, but also answers all your questions? Try reading the KJV 1611 and trusting in God and you'll see.

[Ksevio]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Could God have created the older stars ahead of time? The Bible mentions their creation on the third day, but maybe He just created the stars closest to the Earth at that time.

There could be other copies of Earth and stars created around the universe.

[James Hutchins]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Could God have created the older stars ahead of time? The Bible mentions their creation on the third day, but maybe He just created the stars closest to the Earth at that time.

There could be other copies of Earth and stars created around the universe.

That is possible that the stars were created by God prior to the Earth.

I would not be surprised if they had been created the day (or maybe two) before He created the Earth. But that is just one or two days, not millions of millions of days. If He did as you propose, what did God do in the mean time?

[AnAuthenticAtheist]

Re: How can we see stars if they are "millions of light years" aw

Hello Everyone!

A friend directed me to this forum because he found it very interesting. I also find it very interesting, so I'd like to attempt to answer some questions.

Yes, light has properties.

It's speed is 186,000 miles per second.
It is massless, this is why when it hits you it doesn't knock you down.

Also, I read earlier someone said something to the extent of:

"You're telling me scientists are telling me that I can't see off into the horizon for more than 20 miles, then they say I can see something that's several millions of light years away?"

This is easily explained, most of the sources of light here on earth aren't very powerful. A flashlight for instance, yes it produces light, however it's not a very powerful source of light. The Sun on the other hand, is an extremely powerful source of light. The more powerful the source of the light is, the further away you can be from it and still see it. As you get farther away from light, it becomes dimmer. It's important to note that all light sources, keyword: sources, are not equal.

I'll happily wait for a response.