[Didymus Much]

Re: If evolution is real...

...You would eventually, given you do this for a long time have, and i do mean very very long, theoretically...

If you want to argue about facts, don't label your own argument as a theory and then expect it to be accepted as fact.

...you should have a new type of fish ...

It would still be a goldfish. Variation of a species by artificially applied pressures (as you would be doing in your selective breeding program) is not by natural selection, so is not evolution.

[Jack Rankan]

Re: If evolution is real...

http://youtu.be/U0u3-2CGOMQ

Ray Comfort utterly and finally destroyed that Satanic idea of evilution.

[walabulu4]

Re: If evolution is real...

If you want to argue about facts, don't label your own argument as a theory and then expect it to be accepted as fact.



It would still be a goldfish. Variation of a species by artificially applied pressures (as you would be doing in your selective breeding program) is not by natural selection, so is not evolution.

Actually i used the theory of natural selection. Well artificial selection in this case. So its not my theory. Of course it would still be a gold fish... just like we are still apes, the evolutionary tree is just compounding these small changes over a geological time scale. Yea i get it, its not really evolution. The claim that was made in this thread of getting a shark from a goldfish in a few days of breeding was so strange. I was just trying to show a form of evolution. Which by definition is just the way life diversified through natural selection. If he had kept breeding fish with the longest fins eventually, after thousands of years we would have a new variation of goldfish that cannot interbreed with the original goldfish. Diversification of goldfish.

[Didymus Much]

Re: If evolution is real...

Actually i used the theory of natural selection. Well artificial selection in this case. So its not my theory...

And as it's not natural selection, it's not evolution.

...we are still apes...

No, we're not. We're not only a different species, we're a different genus.

...The claim that was made in this thread of getting a shark from a goldfish in a few days of breeding was so strange...

Their errors in understanding evolution do not make your errors in understanding evolution correct.

...I as just trying to show a form of evolution. Which by definition is just the way life diversified through natural selection...

Natural selection CANNOT be artificially applied, or it's NOT natural (and hence, any product of that selection process is NOT evidence of evolution).

... If he had kept breeding fish with the longest fins eventually, after thousands of years we would have a new variation of goldfish that cannot interbreed with the original goldfish. Diversification of goldfish.

Now you're claiming that people can live for thousands of years?