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  • Lycia The Repentant
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by 2Kings 2 23:25 View Post
    Simply put, go outside, look up during a bright day, and stare at the sun. If in fact it is not emitting light, why shield your eyes? That isn't light, that is...???

    Short answer: basically a REALLY large version of a Hydrogen bomb, exploding millions of times a second. Ever seen one (as in a single Hydrogen bomb) go off? It is something you won't ever forget.
    Neither of these prove that the sun emits light at all. If I look up at the sun and it is exceptionally bright, a much simpler explanation is that there is just an increased amount/brighter quality of ambient light in the sun's direction. The same theory holds for if somebody were to watch a hydrogen bomb go off.

    If the sun emits light, then it would follow that light has a speed of some sort (scientists like to say it's 186,000 miles per second). If light were actually traveling that fast, you wouldn't be able to walk outside without being riddled by tiny, light-sized holes and dying immediately. Even if light traveled slower than this, you would still obviously feel it as it hits you.

    No, a much better explanation is that the sun works as God's light switch for turning up the ambient light on the Earth.

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  • 2Kings 2 23:25
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
    I see. And what evidence do you have to back up your claim?
    Simply put, go outside, look up during a bright day, and stare at the sun. If in fact it is not emitting light, why shield your eyes? That isn't light, that is...???

    Short answer: basically a REALLY large version of a Hydrogen bomb, exploding millions of times a second. Ever seen one (as in a single Hydrogen bomb) go off? It is something you won't ever forget.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
    It's impossible to measure the supposed speed of light. Scientists arrived at the figure of 186,000 miles per second (or 300,000 km/sec), but how could you measure something so fast? The only way to measure the speed (which they have tried) is have two people stand very far away. One person turns on a light (like a lighthouse) at a specific time and the observing person far away records the time they see the light.

    There are a multitude of problems with this. First and foremost, you can't even see a light that is 186,000 miles away! Second, the radius of the Earth is about 25,000 miles, so there's nowhere on Earth you could go to measure it. Even if you stood at opposite corners of the Earth (Rev. 7:1), the light would take about a tenth of a second to arrive. (25,000/186,000=.13). That is less time that the human body can perceive or react to.

    Conclusion: It is impossible to test the speed of light that secular science claims is possible.

    The Speed of Light is just a completely harebrained idea with no bases in experiments or facts, which is paraded around by the Secular Scientist agenda.
    Even "scientists" themselves agree with Rev. Osborne!



    You don't have to read very far through their obfuscating gobbledygook to discover this statement:

    "… the instrument turns out to be nearly 2000 times less sensitive that Michelson had assumed. In vacuum-mode the Michelson interferometer is totally insensitive to light speed…"

    God: 490
    Lucifer: -186,000

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  • Lycia The Repentant
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by 2Kings 2 23:25 View Post
    "Does the Sun Even Emit Light?"

    Yes.
    I see. And what evidence do you have to back up your claim?

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  • 2Kings 2 23:25
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    "Does the Sun Even Emit Light?"

    Yes.

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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by Aristotle View Post
    You make a good point. Has anybody on this forum actually measured the speed of light? Maybe what those liberal scientists actually measured was not light speed but the time it took to open and close the lantern shutters on opposite mountains when they claimed to measure it.
    It's impossible to measure the supposed speed of light. Scientists arrived at the figure of 186,000 miles per second (or 300,000 km/sec), but how could you measure something so fast? The only way to measure the speed (which they have tried) is have two people stand very far away. One person turns on a light (like a lighthouse) at a specific time and the observing person far away records the time they see the light.

    There are a multitude of problems with this. First and foremost, you can't even see a light that is 186,000 miles away! Second, the radius of the Earth is about 25,000 miles, so there's nowhere on Earth you could go to measure it. Even if you stood at opposite corners of the Earth (Rev. 7:1), the light would take about a tenth of a second to arrive. (25,000/186,000=.13). That is less time that the human body can perceive or react to.

    Conclusion: It is impossible to test the speed of light that secular science claims is possible.

    The Speed of Light is just a completely harebrained idea with no bases in experiments or facts, which is paraded around by the Secular Scientist agenda.

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  • Aristotle
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner View Post
    Speaking of light, it occurs to me, that as the first aspect of Creation, er, created, that light must not have a 'speed'. It has to be instantaneous.

    When scientists are blathering all their scientific folderol, and mention the speed of light being so many thousands of miles per second, well, I just have to laugh.

    Why would light have a finite speed anyhow? Light is how God keeps track of all that goes on in His creation, and He would need light to work instantly for Him to be able to do so.



    Just had to get that off my chest, thanx!


    You make a good point. Has anybody on this forum actually measured the speed of light? Maybe what those liberal scientists actually measured was not light speed but the time it took to open and close the lantern shutters on opposite mountains when they claimed to measure it.

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  • Oakland "Reb" Griner
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Speaking of light, it occurs to me, that as the first aspect of Creation, er, created, that light must not have a 'speed'. It has to be instantaneous.

    When scientists are blathering all their scientific folderol, and mention the speed of light being so many thousands of miles per second, well, I just have to laugh.

    Why would light have a finite speed anyhow? Light is how God keeps track of all that goes on in His creation, and He would need light to work instantly for Him to be able to do so.



    Just had to get that off my chest, thanx!


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  • Adilene
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    Re: Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
    Hello friends! Recently, I just finished re-reading Revelation and started re-reading Genesis again, when I noticed something. God created light before he created the sun!

    God created light on the first day:

    "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis 1:3

    Then, on the third day, God created plants:

    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so." Genesis 1:11

    And then, on the FOURTH day, God created the sun, the moon and the stars:

    "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:14-17

    At first, my mind reeled. Had I been mislead? Was everything I believed in a lie?

    And it was then that the answer hit me. I was just being a stupid woman! The answer to this apparent contraindication is so blatantly obvious that I just had to laugh at myself for momentarily doubting the inerrancy of the Bible (and of course, after that I immediately locked myself in my prayer closet for a few hours to beg forgiveness).

    The sun and moon don't actually emit light at all! They are, instead, something like giant light switches that God uses to turn the ambient light around us up and down! Take another look at Genesis 1:15-17, I have bolded what I think are the important parts for this theory:

    "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:15-17

    Absolutely no where in this passage does it imply that the sun or the moon actually emit light that travels towards the earth. Rather, it uses the terms "give light upon the earth" and "light to rule the day/night". Since we know that light cannot travel at all (we'd all be walking around covered in bruises from all the light hitting us all the time), I believe that when the Bible says they give light upon the earth, it's actually just turning the ambient light up and down. Just like when I walk into a dark room and hit a light switch to turn the ambient light up, I think it is obvious that when God wants to change the ambient lighting of the earth (to go from night to day, for example), he just switches the sun on and then waits for the appropriate time to switch it off and then turn the moon on.

    What do the Creation Scientist men here think of this theory?

    I'm probably wrong, but perhaps he meant light, like from candles? fire?

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  • Lycia The Repentant
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    Does the Sun Even Emit Light?

    Hello friends! Recently, I just finished re-reading Revelation and started re-reading Genesis again, when I noticed something. God created light before he created the sun!

    God created light on the first day:

    "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis 1:3

    Then, on the third day, God created plants:

    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so." Genesis 1:11

    And then, on the FOURTH day, God created the sun, the moon and the stars:

    "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:14-17

    At first, my mind reeled. Had I been mislead? Was everything I believed in a lie?

    And it was then that the answer hit me. I was just being a stupid woman! The answer to this apparent contraindication is so blatantly obvious that I just had to laugh at myself for momentarily doubting the inerrancy of the Bible (and of course, after that I immediately locked myself in my prayer closet for a few hours to beg forgiveness).

    The sun and moon don't actually emit light at all! They are, instead, something like giant light switches that God uses to turn the ambient light around us up and down! Take another look at Genesis 1:15-17, I have bolded what I think are the important parts for this theory:

    "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:15-17

    Absolutely no where in this passage does it imply that the sun or the moon actually emit light that travels towards the earth. Rather, it uses the terms "give light upon the earth" and "light to rule the day/night". Since we know that light cannot travel at all (we'd all be walking around covered in bruises from all the light hitting us all the time), I believe that when the Bible says they give light upon the earth, it's actually just turning the ambient light up and down. Just like when I walk into a dark room and hit a light switch to turn the ambient light up, I think it is obvious that when God wants to change the ambient lighting of the earth (to go from night to day, for example), he just switches the sun on and then waits for the appropriate time to switch it off and then turn the moon on.

    What do the Creation Scientist men here think of this theory?
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