[Dan U. Holier]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Not to mention americans have poor education and healthcare. Europe is in way better condition.

All the great achevements that America has are thanks to scientists.

Oh yeah? Devout Christians in the US of A are getting homeschooled way better than in your mooslin sand hole – wherever it actually is (it doesn’t really matter).

I beg to differ: sickular scientists have nothing to do with the most valuable “things” America has: the Holy KJV.1611 Bible and Landover Baptist Church.

What makes you think that more obese is punishment? Quite the opposite...

YiC, M

My thoughts exactly, brother!

UNSAVED TRASH: GET BACK ON TOPIC, NOW !

Yours in Christ

Dan

[MisterM]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

spain by making them less obese,

What makes you think that more obese is punishment? Quite the opposite...

YiC, M

[MentalHaze]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

So, God punishes spain by making them less obese, and having less murders and crimes?

Not to mention americans have poor education and healthcare. Europe is in way better condition.

All the great achevements that America has are thanks to scientists.

[drTarzan]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Really? So following God's Holy Word to the letter is illegal in communist Spain? The same country with legalized bestiality and institutionalized laziness? Well color me surprised.


God hates Spain intensely.

So now... Spain is communist? Seriously? Now first, I wouldn't care if it had a communist government, as long as it was well played out, but it's not a comunist country. Did you even bother reading up? It's an Unitary parliamentary democracy and Constitutional monarchy. That is very, VERY far from communism.

Also, legalized bestiality? Just what the hell does that mean? If you mean the bullfighting, there is already a lot of people trying to bring it down...

Now, God hates Spain? Sorry, but I can find more evidence that your God hates USA than it hates Spain:

Crimes per capita: Spain 22.9 per 1,000 people USA 80.1 per 1,000 people
MURDERS per capita: Spain 0.002 per 1,000 people USA 0.03 per 1,000 people
Total crimes: Spain 923,271 (RANKED 16TH IN ALL THE WORLD!) USA 11,877,218 (RANKED 1ST IN ALL THE WORLD!)

Spanish government corruption: 6.7 (25) USA government corruption: 7.2 (20)

Obesity: Spain 13.1% USA 30.6%

So, God punishes spain by making them less obese, and having less murders and crimes? Let me say, I absolutely LOVE this punishment!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

There are laws that will punish them for sexism in some countries, like where I'm living, Spain.

Really? So following God's Holy Word to the letter is illegal in communist Spain? The same country with legalized bestiality and institutionalized laziness? Well color me surprised.


God hates Spain intensely.

[Dan U. Holier]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Yes, but you still haven't answered my question. He went up there, and saw and took pictures of earth. How do you explain that? (without the "it was a simulator" one)

I could've told you that I’m only answerable to God - what should be your concern as well - and that if you seek for answers, you should get yourself a copy of the KJV.1611 Bible and read it from cover to cover. But I’m in the mood for your juvenile games:



The picture confirms the Biblical account on the “circular” shaped (as per Isaiah 40:22) “end of the earth” (as per Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19, and Daniel 4:11).

So... what was your point, again?

CiY

Dan

[drTarzan]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Why should people believe in things for which there is no evidence? Because they are unfalsifiable?

Ok man, I feel ya, I just thought you where... oh well, you know.

I'm not saying people should believe, I'm saying the can. They have choice. That is, choice as long as it doesn't interfere with other people's freedom (as in not believing that blowing up the WTC with two planes will give you salvation). They can believe in anything because that's what blind faith is about, believing. Kids can believe that Santa Claus brings them presents every christmas, because, until the truth is revealed of course, they see the evidence. If they bothered to observe carefully one christmas the tree, they would se no santa, however.

If faith is what keeps these deluded "christians", who think the earth is flat, that english is "god's sacred langage", that the earth is the center of the universe, and that women should be treated like trash, then so be it. There are laws that will punish them for sexism in some countries, like where I'm living, Spain.

[Atheist Interloper]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

False statement? So you are saying the bible lies? Some one of your own already DEMONSTRATED EMPIRICALLY that the earth is round: he saw it with his own eyes. Your only exits are:

a) The mentions to "pillars of earth" "corners" and anything else that hints a flat, non-spherical earth MUST be metaphorical.

b) The men who wrote those passages actually thought that the earth was flat, voiding the "unbreakable truth" nature of the Bible, thus making me able tu question even further every single word written on it.

If you read carefully, you will see that my username is "Atheist Interloper" and my title is "unsaved trash". You might want to start keeping track of who you are talking to. It is sure to help your comprehension and your comprehensibility alike.

For all you know, Pastafarism (flying spaghetti monster) is just as valid as Cristianism.

Yes, good point.

You lack of PROOF to demonstrate a higher being.

Which is one primary reason I am an atheist.

And occam's razor doesn't work for "oh, we are complex and function perfectly, so we must have a creator".

I agree with this sentence, but I think you should explain your reasons. I would say that a creator is an extraneous entity that Occam's Razor should eliminate, while science practices greater ontological economy. Wouldn't you agree?

You are deluded in ways you can't imagine: You think the earth is flat. I'd pay you a trip myself if I had the money, trust me.

I might hold you to that, if you ever strike it rich.

You can believe in God, in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, in Krishna, in Buddha, in whoever you like. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF FAITH!

Ramen!

Why should people believe in things for which there is no evidence? Because they are unfalsifiable?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Look at the atheists arguing with eachother! This goes to show why a society of atheists would never make it!

[drTarzan]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

By this same logic, any false statement that is uttered should be interpreted as a metaphor. What a confusing life you must lead.

Also, you claim that the existence of God can be believed in on faith because it is unfalsifiable. If we applied this same methodology to other unfalsifiable claims, we would be deluded in ways I can't imagine. What if we had faith that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster? This claim is unfalsifiable too. What about the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or Bertrand Russel's orbiting teapot? I could make up hundreds of ridiculous claims that are unfalsifiable. And these are matters of faith?

False statement? So you are saying the bible lies? Some one of your own already DEMONSTRATED EMPIRICALLY that the earth is round: he saw it with his own eyes. Your only exits are:

a) The mentions to "pillars of earth" "corners" and anything else that hints a flat, non-spherical earth MUST be metaphorical.

b) The men who wrote those passages actually thought that the earth was flat, voiding the "unbreakable truth" nature of the Bible, thus making me able tu question even further every single word written on it.

For all you know, Pastafarism (flying spaghetti monster) is just as valid as Cristianism. You lack of PROOF to demonstrate a higher being. And occam's razor doesn't work for "oh, we are complex and function perfectly, so we must have a creator".

You are deluded in ways you can't imagine: You think the earth is flat. I'd pay you a trip myself if I had the money, trust me.


You can believe in God, in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, in Krishna, in Buddha, in whoever you like. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF FAITH!

Ramen!

[Atheist Interloper]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

This only goes to show how many things on the bible aren't to be taken literally, but metaphorically. It doesn't mean God doesn't exist, as that is more a question of faith that no science can or can't prove.

By this same logic, any false statement that is uttered should be interpreted as a metaphor. What a confusing life you must lead.

Also, you claim that the existence of God can be believed in on faith because it is unfalsifiable. If we applied this same methodology to other unfalsifiable claims, we would be deluded in ways I can't imagine. What if we had faith that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster? This claim is unfalsifiable too. What about the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or Bertrand Russel's orbiting teapot? I could make up hundreds of ridiculous claims that are unfalsifiable. And these are matters of faith?

[drTarzan]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Devout Christians like soldiers don’t ask questions; we follow the God’s orders. Nevertheless, we might sometimes have weak moments, like Rev. Rodimer did.

Someday you will realize how wrongfully you were judging this honorable community and say to yourself “Oh my God, what a fool I was!" - mark my words!

I'll pray for you.

Dan

Yes, but you still haven't answered my question. He went up there, and saw and took pictures of earth. How do you explain that? (without the "it was a simulator" one)

[Dan U. Holier]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Really? So what do you say to one of your own reverends that went on a low orbit fight and took clear pictures of our clearly spherical earth? link: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=62030 Being a fallacy it's weird how you can take pictures of it!

Listen, I just don't care about any punishment stated on the Bible, I've lived my whole life as an Atheist and so far there hasn't been a time when I needed a superior entity to take care of my business, so don't waste bytes throwing that one

Devout Christians like soldiers don’t ask questions; we follow the God’s orders. Nevertheless, we might sometimes have weak moments, like Rev. Rodimer did.

Someday you will realize how wrongfully you were judging this honorable community and say to yourself “Oh my God, what a fool I was!" - mark my words!

I'll pray for you.

Dan

[drTarzan]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

Can you point out where did I say that, please? Let me rephrase myself, if I wasn’t clear enough: devout Christians hold the position that the Holy Bible is inerrant. Since the belief about rounded / spherical Earth contradicts Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19 and Daniel 4:11, we have to disregard it as a fallacy.


Those who believe that God is some kind of a peace-loving, tree-hugging, happy hippy are living in denial. The Holy Bible is absolutely clear about that; read Psalm 137:9, Numbers 31:17, Deuteronomy 7:1-2, Deuteronomy 20:16, Joshua, 6:21, Joshua, 10:40-41, etc

Mr. Smarty-pants, if you don’t know what is the punishment for the brats mocking Godly people, read II Kings 2:23-24

YiC

Dan

Really? So what do you say to one of your own reverends that went on a low orbit fight and took clear pictures of our clearly spherical earth? link: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=62030 Being a fallacy it's weird how you can take pictures of it!

Listen, I just don't care about any punishment stated on the Bible, I've lived my whole life as an Atheist and so far there hasn't been a time when I needed a superior entity to take care of my business, so don't waste bytes throwing that one

[Dan U. Holier]

Re: Coming soon: Christian proof of the Earth's shape!

So, you are telling me that God stopped issuing commands when your KJV Bible came out? Why hasn't he spoken since then?

Can you point out where did I say that, please? Let me rephrase myself, if I wasn’t clear enough: devout Christians hold the position that the Holy Bible is inerrant. Since the belief about rounded / spherical Earth contradicts Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19 and Daniel 4:11, we have to disregard it as a fallacy.

Well, I thought that somewhere on the Bible it said that you shall obey the law. And not killing people, is, you know, a law.

Those who believe that God is some kind of a peace-loving, tree-hugging, happy hippy are living in denial. The Holy Bible is absolutely clear about that; read Psalm 137:9, Numbers 31:17, Deuteronomy 7:1-2, Deuteronomy 20:16, Joshua, 6:21, Joshua, 10:40-41, etc

Mr. Smarty-pants, if you don’t know what is the punishment for the brats mocking Godly people, read II Kings 2:23-24

YiC

Dan