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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Just an honest, personal opinion, but I prefer scientific explanations over biblical explanations. Like I said, personal, honest opinion.
    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
    ..er ..so which is it. Personal honest opinions or Scientific explanations?
    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    I like how I got an infraction for the same sort of "question"
    You didn't ask a question.

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    I choose to believe that I don't have an "eternal soul" and will disappear for all eternity after I die.
    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    I believe that when my body ..etc ..etc
    OK, so you're running on personal opinion. What you call "science" is just stuff you choose to believe. You could "choose to believe" that a circle is square for example, or that a Möbius strip has 14 sides.

    The problem then becomes that whereas scientists publish whatever their current position happens to be so that we can look it up if we wish, your material is unpublished whimsy. Euclidean geometry for example attempts to establish a logical framework for definitions of things like triangles or rays or lines. One of these has a beginning but no end. Can you guess which one?

    Remember that you can't look anything up or employ axioms because when you do "science" you operate according to honest personal opinions which you choose to believe.

    God describes your situation rather well:


    Psalm 14:1-4a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? KJV



    That is because God made the world and everything in it. He knows everything about it. Sort of like if I made you a tea cosy. I'd collect some wool, card it, spin it using a Z twist, ply it using an S twist, wash it using a mix of methylated spirits and eucalyptus oil and maybe a little sandalwood soap.

    These 2 designs would be done with a crochet hook, one of them uses undyed wool. I'd know which one because I'd have made them.

    There would be no detail I could not explain to you.




    God knows everything there is to know about the world in just the same way. Because he made it. Every beetle's knee. Every cyanide molecule. Every arsenic atom. He made the stars also. This thread is about the oil God made. He made it perfect. There was no death when God made oil.

    Until one day catastrophe struck. Noble Adam listened to the wretch Eve, his wife. God's perfect universe was blasted in that instant, a cascade of evil staining every future soul, polluting each and every star, warping even molecular bonds into weird non-Euclidean orbit manifolds enabling the production of LSD, crack cocaine, methylenedioxymethamphetamine sulphates and bizarre atonalist pitch classes no sane person could ever dream of.


    GOD EXPLAINS
    Genesis 3:17-18 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; KJV



    I never intrude "opinion" or "comment" but am happy to post Scripture which really speaks for itself. For example, in the above passage God describes how the ground was cursed, not just humans. Animals began ripping each other up live previously having all been vegetarians and sure enough God will be destroying the whole kaboodle and doing perfection anew. He says so here:


    Revelation 20:11 – 21:5a [John writes] I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. KJV



    What could be clearer than that? But with neither science nor God's Inerrant Word, opinion is all you have left.

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  • Alphonse Alban
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Saying "old" implies to that said thing has a beginning
    Yes. As in about 6000 years ago, God created the universe.

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
    Wait: you think you disappear when you die?



    You Jesus-haters crack me up!
    I believe that when my body, which provides me my consciousness, dies, so does my consciousness, or the "holy and eternal soul" as you call it. We have a beginning, don't we, our birth. According to science, everything with a beginning has an end. Therefore we are in no way eternal.

    Oh, and I have nothing agains God or Jesus, I just hate his fan-club.

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  • Zechariah Smyth
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    I choose to believe that I don't have an "eternal soul" and will disappear for all eternity after I die.
    Wait: you think you disappear when you die?



    You Jesus-haters crack me up!

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
    You should worry less about well-deserved Infractions and more about the state of your Eternal Soul.

    I choose to believe that I don't have an "eternal soul" and will disappear for all eternity after I die.

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  • Zechariah Smyth
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    You should worry less about well-deserved Infractions and more about the state of your Eternal Soul.

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
    ..er ..so which is it. Personal honest opinions or Scientific explanations?
    I like how I got an infraction for the same sort of "question"

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Just an honest, personal opinion, but I prefer scientific explanations over biblical explanations. Like I said, personal, honest opinion.*

    *Psst, by that I mean that an infraction would be ridiculous
    ..er ..so which is it. Personal honest opinions or Scientific explanations?

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
    Simple Bible:
    Just an honest, personal opinion, but I prefer scientific explanations over biblical explanations. Like I said, personal, honest opinion.*

    *Psst, by that I mean that an infraction would be ridiculous

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  • Zechariah Smyth
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Saying "old" implies to that said thing has a beginning, but your God, isn't he eternal? You just straight-up said that your God will die one day. And to be honest I agree, your God will die along with your little stories!
    Implicit and explicit are two very different things.

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    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Oh, and just so you know, anything that has a beginning MUST have an end. Simple physics.
    Simple Bible:

    (Revelation 1:8) "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    What? "The Ray?" The comics?
    Stay on point, kid.

    Yours in Christ,

    Z. Smyth

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
    Have you considered the ray? Simple geometry.
    What? "The Ray?" The comics?

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Oh, and just so you know, anything that has a beginning MUST have an end. Simple physics.
    Have you considered the ray? Simple geometry.

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Oh, and just so you know, anything that has a beginning MUST have an end. Simple physics.

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  • AtheistAsshat
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View Post
    Apart from God, earth is the oldest thing in the universe.
    Saying "old" implies to that said thing has a beginning, but your God, isn't he eternal? You just straight-up said that your God will die one day. And to be honest I agree, your God will die along with your little stories!

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  • Alphonse Alban
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    Re: Oil, disproving evilution!

    Originally posted by AtheistAsshat View Post
    Well maybe when you divide the real age by seven-hundred sixty-six thousand six-hundred sixty-six

    766 666.6
    Don't be silly. Bloodline from Adam to Jesus is only about 4000 years long and man was created only few days after the earth. Apart from God, earth is the oldest thing in the universe.

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