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  • Prenuncius
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    All I must say is:

    God "FTW."

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    But what makes your religion better than the others. From a scientific view tell me why I should choose Christianity over other religions.

    If I were to follow any of three monotheistic religions it would Judaism.
    You should choose to be a True Christian because God ensures that we are more powerful, more influential, better fed and housed, receive advance medical care from the cradle to the grave, have more interesting lives and live in the richest country in the entire history of the world.

    You also get to study the bible as it really is, and not as some wishy-washy false priest would have you believe - you then are assured of a place in heaven.

    If you choose to be a joo, prepare yourself for chanting demonic rites; there'll be no pork chops or bacon, and lobster thermidore will be right out; you'll have a stupid hairstyle; your clothes were last designed in 1800; you will be the butt of hundreds of jokes; your mother and mother in law will conspire to make your life a misery; from time to time mere prejudice will escalate and you will suffer in a pogrom and finally, God will close the door on you, and pull the lever on the down elevator to the eternal pits of Hell.

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  • WilliamJenningsBryan
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Those chinks are liars and attention mongers. A more complete description of what is going on is here:

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  • Ahimaaz Smith
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    But what makes your religion better than the others.
    Because ours is true.

    From a scientific view tell me why I should choose Christianity over other religions.
    You're asking the wrong question. The right question is, from a Christian point of view, why anyone choose science?

    If I were to follow any of three monotheistic religions it would Judaism.
    There are more monotheistic religions than you might think: Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Zoroastrianism, Baha'i, Sikhism, some schools of Hinduism--but it's certainly true that there are a lot of polytheistic religions, too, like most of Hinduism, Paganism, and Catholicism.

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    Then I lied. I always say I'm 21, that way I have no problems accessing forums or websites a 16 year-old would normally have problems with.
    The correct grammar is "with which I, as a 16 year old, would have problems."

    Get your father's permission before you post any more rubbish. The Bible recommends stoning wayward sons.

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  • LyingDingDong
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    Originally posted by ForGodsSake View Post
    You will if you do not answer the question.
    Then I lied. I always say I'm 21, that way I have no problems accessing forums or websites a 16 year-old would normally have problems with.

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  • ForGodsSake
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    Will I get a refraction if I answer one?
    You will if you do not answer the question.

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  • LyingDingDong
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by Ahimaaz Smith View Post
    The more you read the Bible, the more I think you'll discover what the truth really is.
    But what makes your religion better than the others. From a scientific view tell me why I should choose Christianity over other religions.

    If I were to follow any of three monotheistic religions it would Judaism.

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  • LyingDingDong
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Your profile says you're 21. Have you lied to us or are you just mentally slow?
    Will I get a refraction if I answer one?

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    I guess if you have to be so literal as to describe light to it's bearest definition, then yes you're right. I don't know much about quantum mechanics, because I'm only a junior in high school and my physics class this year or AP physics class next year won't breach on the study of quantum mechanics, but until I can experience the actual equations and science behind quantum mechanics, I will have to take your word and your analogies.

    Albert Einstein was religious through the eyes of a deist/agnostic. He clearly states that no supernatural deity has any effect on mankind.
    Your profile says you're 21. Have you lied to us or are you just mentally slow?

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  • Ahimaaz Smith
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    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    I guess if you have to be so literal as to describe light to it's bearest definition, then yes you're right.
    It's not my definition, it's Einstein's. BTW, I misread one of the stories you provided; I looked up the original paper and the change in speed in the fiber optics does go above the speed of light in a vacuum. Nevertheless, this is still like the wagon wheel analogy. Any paper that discusses a "group velocity" above the vacuum speed of light is basically a wagonwheel paper.

    I don't know much about quantum mechanics, because I'm only a junior in high school and my physics class this year or AP physics class next year won't breach on the study of quantum mechanics, but until I can experience the actual equations and science behind quantum mechanics, I will have to take your word and your analogies.
    Ah, I see. I didn't realize you were quite so young. The root of the problem is that what we think of as a beam of light is, in QM, a bunch of repeating waves piled on top of each other, and funny things happen when you measure repeating phenomena (like the spokes on a moving wagon wheel) in certain ways.

    I think it's great that you're studying science, but I hope you'll pay attention to the Bible as well, for a couple of reasons. First, the Bible gives moral guidance, something that no physics class can do, and, second, there are limits to what science can tell us, so it's worth turning a skeptical eye toward the scientific view of the world by reading up on the alternative. The more you read the Bible, the more I think you'll discover what the truth really is.

    Albert Einstein was religious through the eyes of a deist/agnostic. He clearly states that no supernatural deity has any effect on mankind.
    I just said he was religious, not that his religion was right. 8)

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  • Pastor Al E Pistle
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    Originally posted by LingBlingDingDong View Post
    Albert Einstein was religious through the eyes of a deist/agnostic. He clearly states that no supernatural deity has any effect on mankind.
    Albert Einstein was a JOO and a whoremonger who is now puffing smoke out of SATAN'S anus. Just Like Eliot Spitzer but without the false moustache.

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  • LyingDingDong
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    Originally posted by Ahimaaz Smith View Post
    First, the article you cite on changing the speed of waves in an optical fiber isn't relevant. Science tells us that light travels more slowly in a dense body than it does in a vacuum (because the photons keep bumping into things, basically). Nobody has increased the speed of light in a fiber to a speed faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. Change the density of the medium, and you change the speed, but the upper limit is still there.

    This is a little technical, but I'll do my best to explain it without the equations. In quantum mechanics, particles (including photons) are treated as waves when properties of those particles are not being observed (i.e., QM says a photon is a wave until that wave hits a TV screen and you see a flash of light that tells you where the photon is). A series of photons are treated as a series of waves that describe a field that fills space; it's sort of like the ocean, where the water is the field, and the waves are the "particles" we're interested in.

    When you see a wave in the ocean, the water is not moving along with the wave, the wave moves across the water. In QM, you can set up experiments in which the quantum waves appear to travel faster than the speed of light. This effect is very similar to watching a Western movie and seeing a wagon's wheels appear to turn in reverse. The wheels aren't really turning in reverse, and the photons are not really moving faster than light. That's why, the physicists say, nobody has ever shown that they can move information faster than the speed of light in these experiments.

    You can read more about it, with the equations, here. I'm not saying I believe everything in QM (like the profoundly religious Albert Einstein, I don't believe that God plays dice with the Universe, which is pretty much what QM is all about), but I do know that, with only a few scattered dissenters, physicists do not believe that light or anything else travels faster than the speed of light.
    I guess if you have to be so literal as to describe light to it's bearest definition, then yes you're right. I don't know much about quantum mechanics, because I'm only a junior in high school and my physics class this year or AP physics class next year won't breach on the study of quantum mechanics, but until I can experience the actual equations and science behind quantum mechanics, I will have to take your word and your analogies.

    Albert Einstein was religious through the eyes of a deist/agnostic. He clearly states that no supernatural deity has any effect on mankind.

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  • Ahimaaz Smith
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    First, the article you cite on changing the speed of waves in an optical fiber isn't relevant. Science tells us that light travels more slowly in a dense body than it does in a vacuum (because the photons keep bumping into things, basically). Nobody has increased the speed of light in a fiber to a speed faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. Change the density of the medium, and you change the speed, but the upper limit is still there.

    This is a little technical, but I'll do my best to explain it without the equations. In quantum mechanics, particles (including photons) are treated as waves when properties of those particles are not being observed (i.e., QM says a photon is a wave until that wave hits a TV screen and you see a flash of light that tells you where the photon is). A series of photons are treated as a series of waves that describe a field that fills space; it's sort of like the ocean, where the water is the field, and the waves are the "particles" we're interested in.

    When you see a wave in the ocean, the water is not moving along with the wave, the wave moves across the water. In QM, you can set up experiments in which the quantum waves appear to travel faster than the speed of light. This effect is very similar to watching a Western movie and seeing a wagon's wheels appear to turn in reverse. The wheels aren't really turning in reverse, and the photons are not really moving faster than light. That's why, the physicists say, nobody has ever shown that they can move information faster than the speed of light in these experiments.

    You can read more about it, with the equations, here. I'm not saying I believe everything in QM (like the profoundly religious Albert Einstein, I don't believe that God plays dice with the Universe, which is pretty much what QM is all about), but I do know that, with only a few scattered dissenters, physicists do not believe that light or anything else travels faster than the speed of light.

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: The "Big Bang"

    At least one of them says that the effect is illusory.
    Saying "Light can travel faster than light" is a little like saying, "an antelope can run faster than an antelope."

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