[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets does not exist!

God loves everyone, not just a select few who think that they are better than everybody else. Love thy neighbor means everyone, nomatter what race or religion. The bible teaches love, not the hate. You read and treasure the bible, you should know that!

2nd Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

It's not an artist representation. It's real photos of the planets from a good telescope. You didn't know this because you've never tested it because you don't want to acknowledge the truth that there are other planets than Earth.



The photos I've show you are from a good telescope. If you want to see the planets like these photos, then you'll need to use a good telescope. If not, then you can use binoculars, even though not that much details. If all else fails, then you've got your own eyes.

Many major observatories and planetariums provide this sort of info (and you have a good planetarium in Richmond), as does Sky & Telescope magazine, on their websites. Anyhow, low in the west at sunset you have Venus and Jupiter. In a week or so they will be joined by Mercury. Saturn rises near the time of sunset. You can see uranus at any point between May and September from your position.

For websites, this is likely the easiest and most 'user-friendly' that I'm aware of.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

Enter your location (several different ways possible) and then look at the 'whole sky' - and enter the time of the evening (and date..) you are interested in. The sky chart given can be printed out - and if you hold it *over* your head, you will see that east/west/north/south correspond (they don't if you hold it 'down').



I don't think Photoshop existed in the 70's.

Anyway, you know that isn't not from Photoshop because, clearly, you have shown you don't know what you can and cannot do on Photoshop. You can see the planets with your own eyes or from other equipment for better detail.

Oh. So you lied. Gotchya.
You cannot see them, you need 'special equipment' like what Mrs. Etheldreda displayed.


I saw the following this morning.

[SD the fool]

Re: other planets does not exist!

And just who is my neighbour?

That's right: fellow Christians not unsaved trash who are destined for Hell.

God loves everyone, not just a select few who think that they are better than everybody else. Love thy neighbor means everyone, nomatter what race or religion. The bible teaches love, not the hate. You read and treasure the bible, you should know that!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: other planets do not exist!

I'm talking about telescopes specifically in theses posts.

You can see the planets with your own eyes. You can see the planets through a telescope which was made by professionals & companies for the reason of exploring space. There is NO need to fake this. Even if they did, with millions, if not, billions of people around the world having telescopes, and there was not one person who could prove it's fake? You can dismantle the telescope and look at all the electronics inside to see how it was made. You can build a telescope yourself, if you had the knowledge, and get similar, if not, the same result looking at the planets.

Telescopes don't have electronics, they have mirrors a a hollow bit in the middle.

YIC

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: other planets do not exist!

I'm talking about telescopes specifically in theses posts.

Me too. They're simply a gadget, just like the viewfinder.

You can see the planets with your own eyes.

I can see stars with my own eyes, but I can love God with my whole heart.

You can see the planets through a telescope which was made by professionals & companies for the reason of exploring space. There is NO need to fake this.

People have been trying to justify rejecting God's Will since the beginning of time (Genesis 3:2-6).

Even if they did, with millions, if not, billions of people around the world having telescopes, and there was not one person who could prove it's fake?

People have proven Allah isn't the One True God, but millions, and billions of muslims around the world don't believe it. People have proven evolution isn't real, but millions, and billions of scientists still go on as if it were. There's a lot to be gained for proving one's false beliefs, dear.

You can dismantle the telescope and look at all the electronics inside to see how it was made. You can build a telescope yourself, if you had the knowledge, and get similar, if not, the same result looking at the planets.

That seems like an awful lot of trouble to find out what I already know: God's Word is sufficient for all things (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

Why do you continue to deny Him? What's in it for you?

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

What you're saying is if you can see something through equipment, it must be real?

I'm talking about telescopes specifically in theses posts.

You can see the planets with your own eyes. You can see the planets through a telescope which was made by professionals & companies for the reason of exploring space. There is NO need to fake this. Even if they did, with millions, if not, billions of people around the world having telescopes, and there was not one person who could prove it's fake? You can dismantle the telescope and look at all the electronics inside to see how it was made. You can build a telescope yourself, if you had the knowledge, and get similar, if not, the same result looking at the planets.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: other planets do not exist!

You can see the planets with your own eyes or from other equipment for better detail.

What you're saying is if you can see something through equipment, it must be real?

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

I have never seen anything like those artist representations you posted.

It's not an artist representation. It's real photos of the planets from a good telescope. You didn't know this because you've never tested it because you don't want to acknowledge the truth that there are other planets than Earth.

You tell me when and where to look and I'l go outside tonight and look. But if I do not see them, I expect a full and complete retraction from you.
I live in Virginia, if that helps.

The photos I've show you are from a good telescope. If you want to see the planets like these photos, then you'll need to use a good telescope. If not, then you can use binoculars, even though not that much details. If all else fails, then you've got your own eyes.

Many major observatories and planetariums provide this sort of info (and you have a good planetarium in Richmond), as does Sky & Telescope magazine, on their websites. Anyhow, low in the west at sunset you have Venus and Jupiter. In a week or so they will be joined by Mercury. Saturn rises near the time of sunset. You can see uranus at any point between May and September from your position.

For websites, this is likely the easiest and most 'user-friendly' that I'm aware of.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

Enter your location (several different ways possible) and then look at the 'whole sky' - and enter the time of the evening (and date..) you are interested in. The sky chart given can be printed out - and if you hold it *over* your head, you will see that east/west/north/south correspond (they don't if you hold it 'down').

Ever heard of Photoshop?

I don't think Photoshop existed in the 70's.

Anyway, you know that isn't not from Photoshop because, clearly, you have shown you don't know what you can and cannot do on Photoshop. You can see the planets with your own eyes or from other equipment for better detail.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Well, you're in denial of what you can see with your own eyes. A couple of examples,





We can calculate it's orbit, size, mass etc. using mathematics. It's that proof enough? To be honest, even If, for some reason or another, someone sent you to one of the other planets, such as Mars, you still wouldn't believe it because you'll be too injected into your book.



That's completely fine with me, but i just want to ask, does that mean you have to deny what you can clearly see and calculate?

Ever heard of Photoshop?



YIC

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Why did you ban him, then? If you wanted he to make a introduction forum thread, the only way possible is if he had an account - that's logic. If someone got something wrong, I wouldn't ban, kick, scream, bully etc. at them. I would help them understand the truth. You should have guided him to the 'truth' isn't of banning him which may have resulted in him not acknowledging the 'truth'.

Maybe you should focus more on Your Walk with Jesus and less on shortcomings of other Unsaved Trash.

(1 Peter 4:15) "But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters."



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

I have never seen anything like those artist representations you posted. You tell me when and where to look and I'l go outside tonight and look. But if I do not see them, I expect a full and complete retraction from you.
I live in Virginia, if that helps.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

...tell us we are all wrong and expect us to simply take your word for it.

Well, you're in denial of what you can see with your own eyes. A couple of examples,





We can calculate it's orbit, size, mass etc. using mathematics. It's that proof enough? To be honest, even If, for some reason or another, someone sent you to one of the other planets, such as Mars, you still wouldn't believe it because you'll be too injected into your book.

Scripture is what we base our beliefs on, pure and simple.

That's completely fine with me, but i just want to ask, does that mean you have to deny what you can clearly see and calculate?

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: other planets do not exist!

The Scripture is contridcting what your eyes are seeing.



When you're taking about other planets, I'm assuming you're talking about planets, such as Mars, Jupiter, Saturn etc. Like I said, they are real. You can see them with your eyes. That's a fact which you cannot deny. They orbit the same why the Earth orbits.

You have the burden of proof my friend. You come onto our privately funded forum and tell us we are all wrong and expect us to simply take your word for it. Please. That is not how things work. Scripture is what we base our beliefs on, pure and simple.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: other planets does not exist!

"Anyway they didnt bother mentioning the planets very much in The Bible, so i dont get why they are such a big deal for some people, and those are the same people who thinks the earth is like 4 billion years old, its so ridiculous that its laughable "

Well, maybe they weren't mentioned in the bible because they hadn't been descovered yet. Also the world isn't 4 billion years old. It's 4.54 billion years old. If you believe in God, then why do you hate people who aren't like you? Didn't God say to love thy neighbor, and treat others as you would like to be treated?

And just who is my neighbour?

That's right: fellow Christians not unsaved trash who are destined for Hell.

Have you even read the Bible cover to cover?

YIC

[SD the fool]

Re: other planets does not exist!

"Anyway they didnt bother mentioning the planets very much in The Bible, so i dont get why they are such a big deal for some people, and those are the same people who thinks the earth is like 4 billion years old, its so ridiculous that its laughable "

Well, maybe they weren't mentioned in the bible because they hadn't been descovered yet. Also the world isn't 4 billion years old. It's 4.54 billion years old. If you believe in God, then why do you hate people who aren't like you? Didn't God say to love thy neighbor, and treat others as you would like to be treated?