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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by infoprodigy View Post
    Actually from a biblical perspective - the bible infers other worlds. It says Jesus left the 99 to save the 1 lost - we are the 1 lost world.
    Not the way I read it: Jesus was talking about sheep and sheep are different from planets because planets are not covered in wool and sheep don't have people living on top of them.

    The question of planets is truly unimportant. Planets were postulated by people who looked at the firmament and, being sinners, they failed to find God. Thus, to excuse their failure, they invented planets.

    Planet theory is thus a distraction and, to be honest, there is no point knowing if there are planets or not - that knowledge (if knowledge it be) is just taking up space in the brain that could be better occupied by a Godly thought or two.

    I mean, If suddenly, God announced there was a planet, how would that help your journey to heaven or anything else for that matter? It's not as if we have any hope of or wish to go there.

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Dull_Eight View Post
    What happens when you take a plane and fly around the world?
    No plane does.

    Do this:
    Draw a circle. Now, to get from one side to the other, do you go the long way around the circumference or just go straight across?




    Now, notice in the air plane route map (the very same as the pilots use) that not a single one goes around in circles. All straight lines.

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  • Basilissa
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by infoprodigy View Post
    Actually from a biblical perspective - the bible infers other worlds. It says Jesus left the 99 to save the 1 lost - we are the 1 lost world. thus, one can infer that there are the other 99 worlds out there. However, not in our solar system. we are under quaranntine becoz of our sin, thus we can not contact or see them.
    Additionally, in reference to the fig tree story in the bible - check out the falling stars of 1833 - they were described as falling exactly like the scripture describes.
    There is much to be learned from the bible and Gods creation. The reason God created the stars is for a testimony about Him, the Creator. So sinners separted from God can still learn about Him
    If you want to learn more about bible prophecy read the book "Daniel and the Revelation by Uriah Smith" - it sheds alot of credible light on the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Prophecy is one of the main tools God uses to testify of Himself and to convince the sinners mind of the supernatural nature of His Word - the Bible.
    Blessings
    Blessings
    None of that is in my KJV Bible, which means that you're lying.

    Stop reading lies and start reading the Bible, sweetie.

    I'll pray for you.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by infoprodigy View Post
    Actually from a biblical perspective...
    With that intro, one would reasonably expect to find maybe some Scripture, instead of a whole bunch of unjustifiable twaddle.

    ...The reason God created the stars is for a testimony about Him, the Creator...
    That's what you say. The Bible says:

    Genesis 1:14-18 "14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good."

    Nothing about a "testimony" in there.

    Why should the True Christians™ listen to you, instead of the Bible?

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  • infoprodigy
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Dull_Eight View Post
    Ah yes, this is an interesting subject, no? I personally don't believe in God, but I like to play with thoughts. As I earlier claimed, I'll go with the easiest solution; they do exist. But it is always entertaining to think from another perspective.

    We have a hypothetical situation, in which stellar objects outside our solar system don't exist.

    To achieve this, and still be able to perceive this light, God (which in this hypothetical situation does exist) would have to create the electromagnetic radiation, photons instead of stars. I mean, since he was (in this hypothetical situation) able to create a planet, why not photons?

    And as light travels at the speed of light #duh, creating a line of photons, all travelling towards earth / the solar system, would create the illusion of a star. This also suggests that the existence has a finite life, as once the entire line of photons has reached earth, the star would 'disappear'

    It makes sense. Well, kind of. Not really. But hey, if you can believe that the bible is true because the bible says so, I'm sure you can also believe that this is possible? No?
    Actually from a biblical perspective - the bible infers other worlds. It says Jesus left the 99 to save the 1 lost - we are the 1 lost world. thus, one can infer that there are the other 99 worlds out there. However, not in our solar system. we are under quaranntine becoz of our sin, thus we can not contact or see them.
    Additionally, in reference to the fig tree story in the bible - check out the falling stars of 1833 - they were described as falling exactly like the scripture describes.
    There is much to be learned from the bible and Gods creation. The reason God created the stars is for a testimony about Him, the Creator. So sinners separted from God can still learn about Him
    If you want to learn more about bible prophecy read the book "Daniel and the Revelation by Uriah Smith" - it sheds alot of credible light on the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Prophecy is one of the main tools God uses to testify of Himself and to convince the sinners mind of the supernatural nature of His Word - the Bible.
    Blessings
    Blessings

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  • Joe Blow
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    They must be running out of ideas to name the "planets". They named one of Saturn's "moons" ENCHILADAS!

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Dull_Eight View Post
    What happens when you take a plane and fly around the world?
    That question has been answered many times on this forum. Try using the "Search" function.

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  • Dull_Eight
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    What happens when you take a plane and fly around the world?

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  • Didymus Much
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Arab_Infidel666 View Post
    ...Planets are round, but our earth is flat. If planets did exist, they would be flat like the earth, not round...
    Why can't they be both, like a coin?

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  • Alvin Moss
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Arab_Infidel666 View Post
    OBVIOUSLY it is impossible for other planets to exist. Planets are round, but our earth is flat. If planets did exist, they would be flat like the earth, not round like some people claim. Therefore, earth is the only thing that exists. John 2:13 "anyone who believe that anything exists outside of our world be exiled from God unto Hell"

    The Security and Investigations Ministry has undertaken an investigation to determine exactly what kind of scum you really are. Soon, they will know your address. Then... well, I fear things will go badly for you.

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  • Arab_Infidel666
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    OBVIOUSLY it is impossible for other planets to exist. Planets are round, but our earth is flat. If planets did exist, they would be flat like the earth, not round like some people claim. Therefore, earth is the only thing that exists. John 2:13 "anyone who believe that anything exists outside of our world be exiled from God unto Hell"

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Null_Eight View Post
    the thought that God created stars, evolved into something more interesting.
    Well one thought for you might be what would happen if all those fell to the earth. The point has been covered before and I posted some relevant Scripture a couple of years ago. Some of the links are down so I'll repost the main points again.

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    The Bible is clear that this will happen. This historical event is recorded in both the Old and the New Testaments so we can be absolutey certain that it did happen in the future (at an unspecified time) AND in this case God has even explained why.

    The Bible sets forth some details, as much as it is necessary for us to know, concerning the heavens; for example:

    JOB 9
    2
    I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
    4 He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
    7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
    8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
    9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
    KJV


    This is a particularly pertinent passage. The Bible describes how the heavens are stretched out. But God is clear, they will not remain stretched out forever. Perhaps heretics would suggest that this "stretching" is the equivalent of Einstein's "cosmological constant"? The Bible is not some theory, however; it is God's instruction manual for life. And The Bible addresses exactly this point, helping us to appreciate that our present was future history to Job (or to the Psalmists or Prophets for that matter) but now is a matter of fact God spells it out more clearly:

    PSALM 104
    1
    Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
    2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
    3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
    4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
    5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
    KJV




    The Bible explains that quite well. Here is a curtain in what is probably a familiar set-up for you.


    Notice how God's explanation of the heavens He made rules out the various models proposed by astrophysicists?


    The arrangement is tent-like, not infinite-void-type or giant-bubble-machine-type or our-sums-won't-add-up-so-we'll-just-say-the-error-is-a-new-discovery-and perfix-everything-we-dreamed-up-last-century-with-anti-dark-or-strange-type.


    The Bible does not say the heavens ARE a curtain but rather that the heavens are LIKE a curtain. In the 2 passages I've quoted there are additional structures mentioned because God decided we would need to know that.

    And it is here in the "modern era" that we see the reason why as false prophets rise to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.



    We are familiar with structures of that type. In the following illustration many of their equivalents may be seen. Pay particular attention to the lighting, how the illumination is not uniformly dispersed. Notice how there are effects similar to the auroræ, how there are openings provided at different levels for different purposes, how anything attached to the underside of the firmament would be approximately equidistant from the observers and how it would be necessary for one of the higher panels to be opened for ingress or egress.





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    FIGS

    A number of historical events are recorded in Revelation. When these occur they will be unmistakable. Specific detail is recorded which again is well illustrated in pictures and which grossly at variance with current astrological propositions thereby exposing them as false.
    The Bible explains:
    REVELATION 6
    12
    And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
    13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    14a And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together
    KJV


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    All that is very destructive for false belief systems. The wreckage is far greater than anything likely to happen if the supporting material inside those tents were rolled up like a scroll. The Bible uses language we can understand and we do understand. The difference between between Truth and lies, and lies they must be when false teachers who have access to reality persist with sources and cite authorities so far from what can be determined by the simplest investigation.

    Christians on the other hand go directly to The Bible and there we learn what the Creator of all that there is has revealed about the sky, the location of stars and planets, what their ultimate fate will be and how that will affect life on earth. It is nothing like any secular "authority" proclaims and that is how we know they are indeed following lies.

    How can that be anything other than deliberate?


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  • Dull_Eight
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    Dude, you're seriously over-thinking all this. The answer is very simple: God created stars (the regular ones and the wandering ones, so called planets) for the sole purpose of destroying the Earth when the time comes:

    Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    Yes, I'm probably overthinking all this, true... But, the whole point of even touching this subject is to look at things from another perspective. No offense to anyone here, but this perspective of... "God created everything, it is as it seems" is not very interesting.

    I'm bored, playing with thoughts. In this case the thought that God created stars, evolved into something more interesting.

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  • Basilissa
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Null_Eight View Post
    Ah yes, this is an interesting subject, no? I personally don't believe in God, but I like to play with thoughts. As I earlier claimed, I'll go with the easiest solution; they do exist. But it is always entertaining to think from another perspective.

    We have a hypothetical situation, in which stellar objects outside our solar system don't exist.

    To achieve this, and still be able to perceive this light, God (which in this hypothetical situation does exist) would have to create the electromagnetic radiation, photons instead of stars. I mean, since he was (in this hypothetical situation) able to create a planet, why not photons?

    And as light travels at the speed of light #duh, creating a line of photons, all travelling towards earth / the solar system, would create the illusion of a star. This also suggests that the existence has a finite life, as once the entire line of photons has reached earth, the star would 'disappear'

    It makes sense. Well, kind of. Not really. But hey, if you can believe that the bible is true because the bible says so, I'm sure you can also believe that this is possible? No?
    Dude, you're seriously over-thinking all this. The answer is very simple: God created stars (the regular ones and the wandering ones, so called planets) for the sole purpose of destroying the Earth when the time comes:

    Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

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  • Dull_Eight
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    Re: other planets do not exist!

    Originally posted by Basilissa View Post
    I don't think I understand. Are you saying that some of the stuff I see in the sky when I go outside at night (a cloudless and preferably moonless night) do not exist? How is it that I see them, then?
    Ah yes, this is an interesting subject, no? I personally don't believe in God, but I like to play with thoughts. As I earlier claimed, I'll go with the easiest solution; they do exist. But it is always entertaining to think from another perspective.

    We have a hypothetical situation, in which stellar objects outside our solar system don't exist.

    To achieve this, and still be able to perceive this light, God (which in this hypothetical situation does exist) would have to create the electromagnetic radiation, photons instead of stars. I mean, since he was (in this hypothetical situation) able to create a planet, why not photons?

    And as light travels at the speed of light #duh, creating a line of photons, all travelling towards earth / the solar system, would create the illusion of a star. This also suggests that the existence has a finite life, as once the entire line of photons has reached earth, the star would 'disappear'

    It makes sense. Well, kind of. Not really. But hey, if you can believe that the bible is true because the bible says so, I'm sure you can also believe that this is possible? No?

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