[Alexandria Puckett]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Stars falling to Earth; most bizarre thing I have ever heard. But, of course, the Bible is stupid like that.

Wow what a compelling argument. You don't see us going onto YOUR websites and shoving OUR beliefs down your throat, do you? We deserve at least the same respect and poor MitzaLizalor deserves an apology for being spoken to so rudely! She is a lady after all, and a highly respected one at that! I will pray for you, and hope you one day turn God's favor in your direction. Please, do completely read the Bible when you can. As sooon as you can. The correct King James Bible, it will do your heart so much good.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

now these astronomers

Corrected you.

have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist...

We don't imagine. We know!

at remote locations.

By remote location, I'm assuming you mean nearly 50% + of the stars have planets.

The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them.

You don't have to worship them like God. Just accept them as truth with the facts we have

They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.

Nearly, everyone in the world knows the firmament isn't real.

Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.

Stars falling to Earth; most bizarre thing I have ever heard. But, of course, the Bible is stupid like that. Anyway, this is impossible if you understand how the universe works. (You do know why stars are not falling?) They can't simply 'fall to the earth', if the sun got a bit closer to us we would fry and the earth would obliterate so how are all the stars going to reach us? We are not the center of the universe, we are a desolate rock, in the middle of a random galaxy, do not be so arrogant to think that we are the centre of anything. If this situation did happen, for whatever reason, most stars would not hit the earth because of the large space around us.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Exoplanets are actually one of the things I study the most. They lie, not in remote locations, but in the orbits of other stars. All (with a few notable exceptions) exoplanets are drowned out by the light of their parent star so they are difficult to detect via direct imaging. However, we can see the shadow they leave on their star. For some exoplanets, they are oriented in just the right way so that they eclipse their star from the perspective of Earth. This dims the light of the star. Looking at how much the light is dimed and how often it is dimed, we can tell the planets radius and orbital period.

We can also see the effect of the planets gravity on the star. Just as the Sun pulls on the Earth to keep it in orbit, the Earth also pulls on the Sun, the Sun is much larger and does not move very much but its movement through space is affected by the Earth. We can detect these movements within other stars by using redshift. Look up redshift for more info. From the data found from these movements, we can determine the stars mass and orbital period.

Famous exosolar star systems, The HD 10180 system has the most amount of planets with a record of 7 and two more are still being confirmed. The Kepler 22 system has the first ever planet found in the area that is though to be able to support life, though the planet is too big. Gliese 581 has a planet that is in this zone of life that we strongly think has an ocean of water. The Kepler 70 system has a planet that makes a complete orbit in 5 hours, this planet is very close to its star and is likely molten.

[Alexandria Puckett]

Re: other planets do not exist!

My understanding is that OP was concerned about other planets, which in the mind of secularist educated astrologers means extra planets other that the earth which they say is also a planet. So the planets we see in the sky, which are mentioned in The Bible, are not other planets. They are just planets.

However, now these astrologers have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist at remote locations. The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them. They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.

Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.

Oh, I understand now! Thanks so much, Sister! Goodness, I'm having thinking trouble all over the place!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Hm, I do have a question about this Original Poster, where the scientists say there are planets, there are indeed celestial bodies. are those simply stars or something else?

My understanding is that OP was concerned about other planets, which in the mind of secularist educated astrologers means extra planets other that the earth which they say is also a planet. So the planets we see in the sky, which are mentioned in The Bible, are not other planets. They are just planets.

However, now these astrologers have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist at remote locations. The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them. They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.

Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.

[Alexandria Puckett]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Hm, I do have a question about this Original Poster, where the scientists say there are planets, there are indeed celestial bodies. are those simply stars or something else?

[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

As I was posting a reference to UN. I did actually check out their site. Can't be bothered to waste much more time on Yemen, Mr Hutchins, but here's some key words from their latest available [2012] report:

• critical
• drought
• conflict
• political instability
• human rights violations
• human smuggling rings
• highly dangerous
• fragile
• limited public health
• a highly volatile security environment
• sexual and gender-based violence
• HIV
• AIDS
• 507,000 registered internally displaced persons

Sounds absolutely terrific, lousy with mohammedans, no water (and I don't imagine the place is noted for rainfall so by now they've had 6,000 years to work that out and dig some wells or build de-sal plants but can they be bothered? NO they'd rather pray to the moon and die of thirst) but God is so wonderful and there could be a real opportunity here to spread The Gospel with a shipment of Bibles.

JOHN 4
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Authorized Version
YOHANA 4
14 Walakini ye yote atakayekunywa maji yale nitakayompa mimi hataona kiu milele; bali yale maji nitakayompa yatakuwa ndani yake chemchemi ya maji, yakibubujikia uzima wa milele. Swahili Biblia Takatifu

And some English phrase books. But what really makes my eyes circulate in their orbits is what has any of this got to do with astrology

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Right you are, Mitza!
What you clearly reported is common knowledge for those people that are properly educated in matters of the world. Fortunately, all True Christians(tm) are fully aware of those facts and as such, are completely capable of expressing fair and unbiased introspection. It does amaze me that non-Christians are unable to get this information. It is in every Church library, in some cases, in Chick Tract form!

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

If you don't believe me, this website shows the crime rate of Yemen compared to the US. This web site has government crime surveys as sources. To your evidence, there is terrorism in Yemen, there may even be more of it in Yemen than in the US, but the overall domestic crime is extremely low.

[Link To Yemeni Scat Porn Deleted For Decency]

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Are you daft? Note the underlined date!

As I was posting a reference to UN. I did actually check out their site. Can't be bothered to waste much more time on Yemen, Mr Hutchins, but here's some key words from their latest available [2012] report:

• critical
• drought
• conflict
• political instability
• human rights violations
• human smuggling rings
• highly dangerous
• fragile
• limited public health
• a highly volatile security environment
• sexual and gender-based violence
• HIV
• AIDS
• 507,000 registered internally displaced persons

Sounds absolutely terrific, lousy with mohammedans, no water (and I don't imagine the place is noted for rainfall so by now they've had 6,000 years to work that out and dig some wells or build de-sal plants but can they be bothered? NO they'd rather pray to the moon and die of thirst) but God is so wonderful and there could be a real opportunity here to spread The Gospel with a shipment of Bibles.

JOHN 4
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Authorized Version
YOHANA 4
14 Walakini ye yote atakayekunywa maji yale nitakayompa mimi hataona kiu milele; bali yale maji nitakayompa yatakuwa ndani yake chemchemi ya maji, yakibubujikia uzima wa milele. Swahili Biblia Takatifu

And some English phrase books. But what really makes my eyes circulate in their orbits is what has any of this got to do with astrology

Re: other planets do not exist!

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[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

The big hole in your evidence is the date, October 2011, during the revolution. Since then, crime has largely died down.

Are you daft? Note the underlined date!

The UN Security Council passed Resolution 2014 in October 2011 calling on both sides to end the violence

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

The big hole in your evidence is the date, October 2011, during the revolution. Since then, crime has largely died down.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

Originally Posted by The CIA
North Yemen became independent of the Ottoman Empire in 1918. The British, who had set up a protectorate area around the southern port of Aden in the 19th century, withdrew in 1967 from what became South Yemen. Three years later, the southern government adopted a Marxist orientation. The massive exodus of hundreds of thousands of Yemenis from the south to the north contributed to two decades of hostility between the states. The two countries were formally unified as the Republic of Yemen in 1990. A southern secessionist movement and brief civil war in 1994 was quickly subdued. In 2000, Saudi Arabia and Yemen agreed to a delimitation of their border. Fighting in the northwest between the government and Huthi rebels, a group seeking a return to traditional Zaydi Islam, began in 2004 and has since resulted in six rounds of fighting - the last ended in early 2010 with a cease-fire that continues to hold. The southern secessionist movement was revitalized in 2008 when a popular socioeconomic protest movement initiated the prior year took on political goals including secession. Public rallies in Sana'a against then President SALIH - inspired by similar demonstrations in Tunisia and Egypt - slowly built momentum starting in late January 2011 fueled by complaints over high unemployment, poor economic conditions, and corruption. By the following month, some protests had resulted in violence, and the demonstrations had spread to other major cities. By March the opposition had hardened its demands and was unifying behind calls for SALIH's immediate ouster. The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in late April 2011, in an attempt to mediate the crisis in Yemen, proposed an agreement in which the president would step down in exchange for immunity from prosecution. SALIH's refusal to sign an agreement led to heavy street fighting and his injury in an explosion in June 2011. The UN Security Council passed Resolution 2014 in October 2011 calling on both sides to end the violence

How odd. The world's more law abiding regimes don't usually get UN Security Council resolutions calling for an end to violence. Did you forget to update the CIA too?

[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

Friend, everyone knows all the terrorists from third world countries like yemen, chechnya all commit thier atrocities on American soil. They have already destroyed thier own countries.
You have to get the crime figures of crimes caused by normal Americans. Not commies, beaners, mooslimes, eskimoes, micks, wops, frogs spics, indians, yids or nigras.
People like you are so narrow minded!

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Rate of Yemen crime, 1.16109 per 1,000 people.(lowest in the world)

Someone forgot to tell NATO
_http://www.nato.int/docu/review/2010/Yemen/Yemen_Terrorism/EN/