[Brother Temperance]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

How very...archaic

Are you seriously claiming that rocks are archaic and out-of-date? At what point did iron cease to be relevant to the modern world?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Ah, Brother Smith, I knew there was something I wished to ask you with your language skills and all -

Perhaps the most intriguing Biblical element is (in Hebrew) ךופ , translated variously as "fair colors" (Isaiah 54:11), "painting" (Jeremaiah 4:30), and "precious stones" (1 Chronicles 29:2).

Could you give a phonetic pronunciation of the squiggles? I've a feeling it may help.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

You can boil dross all day, and you’re just left with dross.

See, already your table has explained one of the great mysteries of the ages! I can only imagine the wonders that will result as you and Dr. Ville collaborate on further investigations.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Brother Ahimaaz

Interesting. Dross is a particularly puzzling element to me, since Proverbs 26:23 presents us with a variant, "silver dross." Is this just an isotope of dross? A separate element entirely? An alloy perhaps? Puzzling questions, indeed, especially for someone like me, who has studied very little Biblical chemistry (though your post has inspired me to crack open the KJV1611 and brush up on the subject).

The example pictured earlier is copper dross – it is what is left when you boil out all the goodness of copper – sliver dross is just the same – you boil the silver out and you’re left with dross. You can boil dross all day, and you’re just left with dross. As it has been tested already (see earlier) I subjected it to smiting – nothing much happens, except bits fly everywhere, so it’s an element.

Eze:13:11: Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.

I assume that when you refer to “ whitewash” (the common name), you refer untempered mortar (scientific name). Unfortunately, the secret of untempering mortar has been lost (I recall having it in my pocket when I went to the car this morning.)

Morter is slime, probably with Rock in it: Ge:11:3: And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

Pastor Ezekiel

Brother Ezekiel, I wonder if Shittim wouldn't fit into your periodic table somewhere.

Most interesting, but I’m afraid that is not possible. As I understand it Shittim means “of the Shitt” (or it may just be “Shitts”) So it is wood of the shitts.

As it happens I have just unloaded what felt like a cubic cubit of Shitt and I can tell you that it was a relief when I had finished!

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Are you saying the Bible is out of date, friend? If so, why hasn't God written another one?

Well said, sister.
There's just no way he could ever argue against such logic.

[Virginia Day Templeton]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Are you saying the Bible is out of date, friend? If so, why hasn't God written another one?

[Captain Planet]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

How very...archaic

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Brother Ezekiel, I wonder if Shittim wouldn't fit into your periodic table somewhere.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Glory, this is an area where I truly shine. The Lord has blessed us with this grant, thanks to George W. Bush's unwavering support for the Godly Sciences. Personally I will be doing a great deal of research into the structure of iron chariots and why they are indestructible, and, if all goes well, I will present a patent to the United States Armed Forces for my 21st century chariot that will usher in victory in Iran!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

As you know, we subject any potential candidate for inclusion in the Table to every verse of the Bible, and are then tested upon 3 Godly animals and 3 ungodly ones, thus the process is long. By newly introduced methods, Soap will be included in the same test to save valuable time

Excellent, always good to know that we are following the strictest scientific method in these things.

Dross is a complete oversight – I have before me a piece of dross, forced out the sweaty hands of a Red Sea Pedestrian in the Holy Land – and why it is not included, I have no idea.

You can hardly be expected to complete the entire periodic table in a preliminary manuscript! My advice is to persevere, and I am sure that God will inspire you to the fruition of this magnificent project.

Papers from 1904 show that testing had been done on it here at Landover! Whether it should be categorized as Earth or Water is another matter. The argument for Earth is pretty strong - it looks like Earth. Against, it also looks like someone poured it all over the place and it set, so it might be Water with an absence of Fire. I include a picture.

Interesting. Dross is a particularly puzzling element to me, since Proverbs 26:23 presents us with a variant, "silver dross." Is this just an isotope of dross? A separate element entirely? An alloy perhaps? Puzzling questions, indeed, especially for someone like me, who has studied very little Biblical chemistry (though your post has inspired me to crack open the KJV1611 and brush up on the subject).

And don't get me started on the subject of whitewash (Ezekiel 13:11).

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Pastor Billy-Reubin, Brothers One Eyed Jack, Temperance, Salvation Seeker, Bobby-Joe and Smith! I must thank you on so many levels – your comments are the greatest reward in themselves.

Brother Salvation Seeker mentions the possibility of Salt being an element but then adds a caveat. Remarkably, the caveat is same one that the late Pastor Gideon Malachi (1787 – 1887) addressed in his Seminal work, “With out Without Salt?” (Vol 2 pp3462 -3569 - LBC Press 1838). Brother Salvation Seeker will be pleased to hear that his conclusions are the same as the good Pastor. Salt will appear in the final table if the nitre/lightning mix (Thanks OEJ) can be ruled out.

We here at Landover Baptist University for the Saved have long held that tin is merely a form of iron. However, the verse provided will serve to renew a more detailed look at its properties. As you know, we subject any potential candidate for inclusion in the Table to every verse of the Bible, and are then tested upon 3 Godly animals and 3 ungodly ones, thus the process is long. By newly introduced methods, Soap will be included in the same test to save valuable time

Dross is a complete oversight – I have before me a piece of dross, forced out the sweaty hands of a Red Sea Pedestrian in the Holy Land – and why it is not included, I have no idea. Papers from 1904 show that testing had been done on it here at Landover! Whether it should be categorized as Earth or Water is another matter. The argument for Earth is pretty strong - it looks like Earth. Against, it also looks like someone poured it all over the place and it set, so it might be Water with an absence of Fire. I include a picture.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

I might note that Salt (Genesis 19:26) could be elemental; or it could be a compound of nitre and lightning. I am not sure.

Well, in just that verse..
The Bible clearly states that salt can be created from humans.
And we all know that our human bodies are, chemically, made up of dust. (Genesis 2:7)

Thus, salt should logically be a compound of dust (Which would also explain the dust-like appearance of salt) and something else.
What that something else is exactly though, that is something we should be looking into further I think.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

the following is thus to be considered a work in progress. All the more so, as it has not yet been peer reviewed.

I am sure that with science of this quality, the formal review by a Landover Pastor will proceed without a hitch.

Suggestions, amendments, additions are welcome

I have a few points for you to consider: Nitre appears in Jeremaiah 2:22 as well as in Proverbs. Jeremiah 2:22 also introduces the element soap (which is not the same as the animal product soap, which was only invented 1,000 or more years later); we see this used again in Malachi 3:2, Job 9:30 and 22:30, and Isaiah 1:25. Isaiah 1:25 introduces dross and tin, and Isaiah 27:9 brings us chalkstones (known today as limestone). Ezekiel 27:17 adds Pannag and balm, though perhaps those are best viewed as agricultural products and not as elements, much like we would probably not view a man's "seed of copulation" (Leviticus 15:16) as an element.

Perhaps the most intriguing Biblical element is (in Hebrew) ךופ , translated variously as "fair colors" (Isaiah 54:11), "painting" (Jeremaiah 4:30), and "precious stones" (1 Chronicles 29:2).

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Brother Bathfire, this Periodic Table of the Elements is a mighty work. Truly the Templeton Prize is as good as yours.

I might note that Salt (Genesis 19:26) could be elemental; or it could be a compound of nitre and lightning. I am not sure.

I confess that Manna (Exodus 16:15) is a mystery to me. It is compared with Bdellium, but the Hebrew word literally means "what [in G*d's name] is it?", so even the Patriarchs were confused by the substance. Scholars say it may have been tamarisk sap or lichen, and therefore a plant substance and not elemental.

Joy fills my soul when I look at the Christian Table of the Elements. I am certain that this is the greatest scientific advance since Michelson and Morley discovered the aether. Bless you, Sir, may God bless you.

~~ OEJ

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Biblical Periodic Table of Elements

Bless you, Brothers Ezekiel and Ahimaaz. I copied your posts here into the discussion of Judges 1-3 in the Bible in a Year forum, so that they will become part of the commentary.