[Didymus Much]

Re: Autism - the New Gay

...I'm a Christian and you guys are wrong on this one.

You truly believe that girls who get raped should be forced to marry their rapists? The True Christians™ do. That's the bar the Bible sets for those who would call themselves "Christian".

And to the True Christians™: my apologies (in advance) for the ensuing "oh but those words in plain English don't mean what they seem to and I know that I know the Truth because the Spirit talks through me and me alone" bullshit to come from our visitor.

[CatSci]

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That would be the antithesis of how the Holy Bible teaches True Christians™ to behave.

The Bible tells you to be mean-spirited, unkind, and unfair?

Let me guess, you've never actually read the Bible, have you? Oh, I'm sure you've read parts here and there, familiar with most of the stories in the Pentateuch, mostly the Gospels, a bit of the New Testament (glossing over the parts that seem contradictory or confusing), and certainly the Psalms when you feel doubt creeping in. But you've never read it through, with an open heart, allowing the Holy Ghost to guide you, have you? I can tell because you're promoting what we can clearly attribute to a 21st century, western, privileged cultural worldview.

Well that was just prejudiced. Please don't act like a jerk.

You say the LORD wants us to treat people fairly and kindly, and yet that would be awfully subjective and problematic, don't you think?

No, I don't.

I think it's kind to steer people away from the path to perdition,

Sure, but as they say: you get more bees with honey.


I'm surprised you're fighting so strongly against the simple notion of being nice.

but you think it's kind to protect and validate another's emotional comfort.

Nope. Hey, how about I tell you what I think, and you tell me what you think. And you don't tell me what I think, and I won't tell you what you think.


Sound good?

You speak of kind as if everyone were equal, and yet the Holy Bible goes to great lengths to remind us we each of us have a particular function in this world, and they are not equal (Romans 9:20). Essentially, you're asking us to validate you desire to relegate every part of the Holy Bible that doesn't line up with your personal experiences as either metaphorical, or irrelevant.

Is that so kind of you to try and change our faith when we hold it so dearly?

Now you're just Gish Galloping...


You were wrong about the verses you posted earlier and you didn't address my responses to them.


Until you do, I will not consider more verses from you.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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You should treat people kindly and fairly, and not be mean-spirited.

That would be the antithesis of how the Holy Bible teaches True Christians™ to behave. Let me guess, you've never actually read the Bible, have you? Oh, I'm sure you've read parts here and there, familiar with most of the stories in the Pentateuch, mostly the Gospels, a bit of the New Testament (glossing over the parts that seem contradictory or confusing), and certainly the Psalms when you feel doubt creeping in. But you've never read it through, with an open heart, allowing the Holy Ghost to guide you, have you? I can tell because you're promoting what we can clearly attribute to a 21st century, western, privileged cultural worldview.

How convenient for you that the LORD was speaking to all people across the entire world in all times just to fit your circumstances, two thousand years later and many thousands of miles away.

You say the LORD wants us to treat people fairly and kindly, and yet that would be awfully subjective and problematic, don't you think? I think it's kind to steer people away from the path to perdition, but you think it's kind to protect and validate another's emotional comfort. You speak of kind as if everyone were equal, and yet the Holy Bible goes to great lengths to remind us we each of us have a particular function in this world, and they are not equal (Romans 9:20). Essentially, you're asking us to validate you desire to relegate every part of the Holy Bible that doesn't line up with your personal experiences as either metaphorical, or irrelevant.

Is that so kind of you to try and change our faith when we hold it so dearly?

[CatSci]

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Complete and utter, dear.

Well that explains it, not!

Think it through, dear. Who is the subject doing the burial? "The dead." The Spiritually Walking Dead, that is.

No, that doesn't make sense in the context of the chapter. That interpretation must be wrong.

Don't be silly! True Christians™ aren't afraid of judgement (Isaiah 43:25)!

Isaiah 43:25 doesn't have anything to do with that.

Why, we've even been conscripted with the command to judge others (John 7:24)!

No, Jesus wasn't saying that you have free reign to judge others nor to go do it. He was talking to a crowd that just called Him "demon-possessed" about judging working on the Sabbath hypocritically. They didn't like that He had healed somebody, and He was all: "Yeah but what about you guys doing circumcisions. Judge it right."

Read that again, dear. Whatever you do to the least of His People. That is not everyone.

Yeah, no. Christianity is not a private club that members treat other people based on their inclusion or not.

Jesus did not come to redeem unrepentant sinners. You might find Pastor Zeke's sermon enlightening on the matter. As always, it is 100% Biblically accurate. Guaranteed!

Thanks, but I'll pass.

Jesus did NOT Die For Everyone's Sins! Without Repentance, There Is No Salvation!

That's beside the point though. No salvation without repentance doesn't have to with how you should treat other people despite whether or not they're "true believers" like yourself.


You should treat people kindly and fairly, and not be mean-spirited.

[CatSci]

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What?
He has already put you to shame but knowing more about the other cheek and the not judging thing.

Nah, I reject both of those interpretations.

Now you are talking nonsense. I prefer you to stop calling yourself a Christian, you are making a fool of all of us.

Thanks for your opinion, but no.


I'm a Christian and you guys are wrong on this one.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Nonsense?

Complete and utter, dear.

That's not what that verse means. Jesus was talking about following Him, right then and there, rather than worrying about burying your parents first.

Think it through, dear. Who is the subject doing the burial? "The dead." The Spiritually Walking Dead, that is. Most people you will ever meet on this earth will be alive, and yet spiritually dead. Does this surprise you? If you've read the Gospels, it shouldn't. Jesus says so again and again.

Well first, Pastor Zeke isn't Jesus. Judge not lest thee be judged.

Don't be silly! True Christians™ aren't afraid of judgement (Isaiah 43:25)! Why, we've even been conscripted with the command to judge others (John 7:24)!

Whatever you do to the least of His people, you do to Him. Being mean-spirited, even towards the seemingly hell-bound, is being mean-spirited to Jesus, himself.

Read that again, dear. Whatever you do to the least of His People. That is not everyone. Jesus did not come to redeem unrepentant sinners. You might find Pastor Zeke's sermon enlightening on the matter. As always, it is 100% Biblically accurate. Guaranteed!

Jesus did NOT Die For Everyone's Sins! Without Repentance, There Is No Salvation!

[Brother Gonzalez]

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Being your enemy is even more reason to love them, not less.

What?
He has already put you to shame but knowing more about the other cheek and the not judging thing.


Now you are talking nonsense. I prefer you to stop calling yourself a Christian, you are making a fool of all of us.

[CatSci]

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He is an atheist, so he will not turn the other cheek.

Being your enemy is even more reason to love them, not less.

[Didymus Much]

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So much for turning the other cheek...

This is cribbed from a response I made to someone else who didn't fully understand what "turning the other cheek" means (I didn't feel like typing it all out again):

I also know how few people actually understand what "turn the other cheek" really means. If you follow this link, you'll find the verse in question (Matthew 5:39) as it appears in 20 of the most common Bibles in use today. Notice how they ALL specify that someone's hitting your RIGHT cheek. Curious (or telling?), as there is very little else they agree on.

Back then, only the right hand was used for touching others. The left (as is still common in many countries) was used for toilet purposes. If I was to strike you on the right cheek using my right hand, it would have to be a backhand strike. This was the disciplinary method used on slaves and servants, and showed the the striker considered the other to be below them, socially.

By only presenting the left cheek as a target, you would force me to use a forehand strike, with the concomitant acknowledgement of you as my social equal.

Thus, we see that the "turn the other cheek" passage is NOT an instruction to yield unconditionally to any aggressor (as it has been portrayed by many, who either do not understand, or consciously wish to misrepresent, the message of the Bible), but instead is a passive-aggressive way of forcing them to treat you as an equal.

...Judge not lest thee be judged...

And another one. Read this: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible (Matthew 7:1-5)

[Brother Gonzalez]

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So much for turning the other cheek...

He is an atheist, so he will not turn the other cheek. He will look your IP, guess your address and stalk you. I know, he has done it in the past.


I will recommend you to read the Bible again. I don't want to see you losing and argument about God with an atheist.

[CatSci]

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Nonsense!

Nonsense? It was, actually, pretty mean-spirited. You seem to be trying to justify it rather than denying it.

Jesus Himself told us to let the dead bury the dead (Luke 9:60). In other words, there will be those who refuse to accept the Living Waters, and they will wander the earth as Spiritually Walking Dead.

That's not what that verse means. Jesus was talking about following Him, right then and there, rather than worrying about burying your parents first.

They will only wake up the moment after they draw their last breath, to find eternal punishment is their only future. Jesus didn't mind knowing most people will burn in Hell (Luke 13:23-28), why should Pastor Zeke get all bent out of shape about it?

Well first, Pastor Zeke isn't Jesus. Judge not lest thee be judged.

Second, Jesus also warned us about the hypocrites - Read Matthew 25.

Whatever you do to the least of His people, you do to Him. Being mean-spirited, even towards the seemingly hell-bound, is being mean-spirited to Jesus, himself.

Calling yourself a Christian pastor and being mean to people makes one look like one of the goats that Jesus warned us about.

[CatSci]

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To a poster that had just finished calling him "Pastor Shitphuck" in an exceedingly ignorant expletive-ridden rant? Might want to loosen the belt on your outrage panties a bit, there.

So much for turning the other cheek...

[Mary Etheldreda]

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That was kinda mean-spirited...

Nonsense! Jesus Himself told us to let the dead bury the dead (Luke 9:60). In other words, there will be those who refuse to accept the Living Waters, and they will wander the earth as Spiritually Walking Dead. They will only wake up the moment after they draw their last breath, to find eternal punishment is their only future. Jesus didn't mind knowing most people will burn in Hell (Luke 13:23-28), why should Pastor Zeke get all bent out of shape about it? That's like asking us to cry because ducks take to water!

[Didymus Much]

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That was kinda mean-spirited...

To a poster that had just finished calling him "Pastor Shitphuck" in an exceedingly ignorant expletive-ridden rant? Might want to loosen the belt on your outrage panties a bit, there.

[CatSci]

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Dear Hatemonger;

I'm sorry, but it is our policy NEVER to remove the account of an unsaved fool. Your belligerent hatemongering will remain for future unsaved scum to see and learn from for all eternity (or until Jesus returns to slay most of the earth, whichever comes first).

Jesus called you here for a reason, so you might rethink your selfish tantrum and stick around.

If you'd really like to remove yourself from our Godly forum, all you need to do is to click on that tiny red "x" in the upper righthand corner of your computer screen. Then close your computer, stand up, and walk away.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

PS. Enjoy hell.

That was kinda mean-spirited...