[James Hutchins]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Apparently you've never had a dog or cat. You asked me to cite it. I'm sure there is a sheep dog being used somewhere in the Bible. For that matter I know that they rode camels. Do you think try would be able to ride a camel if they weren't able to communicate with it??

Of course I have dogs. A man has to have some sort of intelligent animal about when he goes hunting. Nigras' just scream out every time you shoot they scream "Gawd Lawdy, I's be hit again'. That means you can only get one shot off before they give away your position. Useless. A good dog runs silently until he catches the floundering animal, A vise like grip and a few quick shakes to snap its' neck and the dog will drag it back to the blind, steam rising from the wound. It is a beautiful thing God gave us.

I have no idea why you want to use You tubes instead of the Bible. This is a decent Christian forum after all. You haters are all alike.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Of course I have dogs. A man has to have some sort of intelligent animal about when he goes hunting. Nigras' just scream out every time you shoot they scream "Gawd Lawdy, I's be hit again'. That means you can only get one shot off before they give away your position. Useless. A good dog runs silently until he catches the floundering animal, A vise like grip and a few quick shakes to snap its' neck and the dog will drag it back to the blind, steam rising from the wound. It is a beautiful thing God gave us.

Brother Hutchins, I confess to a touch of envy regarding the way you handle your field negros. I'm not much of a hunter myself (Mr. Etheldreda prefers to keep this hobby in it's natural state - a manly sport to be enjoyed with other men), but my experience with the urban negro is that he never takes anything seriously. Why, I've completely given up on expecting any help from them, as they simply cannot stop their tribal antics long enough to be of any use.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Since your post follows mine I presume you're responding to what I wrote:

Thank you for that teaching Mr Bathfire. It explains how come white people fare much better in Africa than the natives. Can we gain any insight into characteristics of the Hamitic curse from this?

and your reply:

That was precisely my point. Dare I say that you just supported science by says that light is absorbed for darker colors. This allows them to burn less, kind of when you get a tan from going to the beach a lot, you may burn the first time but not the more you go.

Feel like I'm teaching elementary.

You're not teaching at all. When you get a tan from going to the beach a lot, you may burn the first time .. .. but the more you go the more likely you are TO GET SKIN CANCER.


“What's the harm in sunburn? A person's risk for melanoma--the most serious form of skin cancer--doubles if he or she has had five or more sunburns..
Let's look at how sun exposure relates to skin cancer. The two most common nonmelanoma skin cancers, basal cell carcinoma (BCC) and squamous cell carcinoma (SCC), are directly correlated with sun accumulation..”
© 2012 The Skin Cancer Foundation | 149 Madison Avenue Suite 901 New York, New York 10016 | (212) 725-5176


Elsewhere:

The many different races came from the many different evolutionary constructs deriving from at which part of the world or how much sun those species received and evolved to have more melonin which makes their skin darker (think about it white people come from parts of the world with less sun exposure and black people come from places with more sun exposure). Language is a similar aspect where cultures secluded from one another evolved finding their own ways to communicate with one another, animals did the same thing and our domesticated animals are now evolving to understand our language as well and maybe vise versa.

I will not dwell on your deficiency other than to point out that what you have described is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of evolutionist propaganda..

You see (well, you probably don't but someone reading might get the point) in order to determine the veracity of evolutionist dogma The Pastoral Team actually read it. Then they can say whether or not it's in accord with Scripture. It is not. But their having read it and having instructed us means that WE KNOW WHAT IT CLAIMS.


“..scientists all agree that our early hominid relatives arose in Africa, but disagree on when the direct ancestors of living humans left Africa to populate the globe.”
Source links to additional genetic studies
© DNA Learning Center, Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory

As usual the scientists can't decide whether we're related to chimps or orang-utans but are unified in their claims that HUMANS ORIGINATED IN AFRICA then moved out into Asia and eventually from there into Europe BECOMING LIGHTER IN SKIN TONE and that is the exact opposite of what you claim. You went on to announce that animals are evolving language.

Oh, please, cite your source for this!!

Who needs to cite it.. etc.

Well a fundamental tenet of the scientific method which you are trying to reproduce (unsuccessfully so far) is that sources are always given. A source may be one's own peer reviewed research published in a relevant journal, or information from registered organisations or government departments, or even unreliable sources to show just how they ARE unreliable for example because they're self-contradictory or nonsensical or because they disagree with established scientific facts [sic] such as I have used above to demonstrate that you don't know what you're talking about even though the subject is complete rubbish as may be verified from ABSOLUTELY RELIABLE RECORDS available HERE.

So yes, you do need to cite it.

[Bort the simpleton]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Now we cover the Hamites (Negroids).

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Ham had four sons that each became the progenitor of one of the major divisions in the Negroid race. Cush settled in sub-Saharan Africa and founded the Ethiopian subrace. Mizraim settled in northern Africa and founded the Egyptian subrace. Phut went back to the Middle East and founded the Phoenician subrace. Canaan also went back to the Middle East and founded the Canaanite subrace.

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Cush's six sons each became a progenitor of a division within the Ethiopian subrace. Nimrod went back to the Middle East and founded the Babylonian subrace. If you are wondering why we use the word "nimrod" as a synonym for "idiot" these days, it's because Nimrod was the idiot who decided to build the Tower of Babel.

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Mizraim's six sons founded the five divisions of the Egyptian race, spreading across northern Africa, into the Mediterranean, and back into the Middle East. Ludim's and Lehabim's offspring interbred, and that's where the Libyans came from.

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Finally we come to the most prolific branch of the Negroid race, the Canaanites. Most of these subraces settled in Israel, pre-stealing the promised land from the Israelites while they were still in Egypt. Not all of them settled in the Middle East. Heth went further east and founded the Hittite subrace, now known as the Mongols. Sin went even further east and founded the Sinite subrace, now known as the Chinese. I'm sure that all of the other Oriental subraces branched off from the Sinites, but I can't find any scripture that covers it.

Likewise, the native inhabitants of Pacific Islands, Australia, New Zealand, and the Americas are all obviously Hamites, but there is no documentation of their lineage anywhere.

Judging from their physical features, I would conclude that some branch of the Cushites spread from western Africa into the Indian Ocean, then from there into India, then to Polynesia, and then to Australia, New Zealand, and the Pacific Islands, and finally to Hawaii and Easter Island.

I would likewise conclude that some branch of the Mizraimites went across the Atlantic Ocean to the East Indies, then from there into the Americas.

Just like the Canaanites pre-stole land from the Semites, the Cushites and the Mizraimites pre-stole land rightfully belonging to the Japhephites.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

What you have there is evolution my friend. Congrats and welcome to the 21st century

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Where did the races come from?

What you have there is evolution my friend. Congrats and welcome to the 21st century

Evidence please. Otherwise it's no welcome to anything and you're stuck in the dark ages.

[Religious Hank]

Re: Where did the races come from?

You guys are just making this stuff up (from some names in the bible) and then just call it scientific evidence.....

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Where did the races come from?

You guys are just making this stuff up (from some names in the bible) and then just call it scientific evidence.....

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

[Religious Hank]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Yes I am sorry for not introducing myself, but I was very curious about this evolutionary line.
And I am not here to flame you, but there really are just some names, with lines in between, without any hard evidence. I don't see how that works.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Yes I am sorry for not introducing myself, but I was very curious about this evolutionary line.
And I am not here to flame you, but there really are just some names, with lines in between, without any hard evidence. I don't see how that works.

Please point out where any True Christian(tm) misquoted, interpreted, or added to or subtracted from Scripture.

Be specific, and cite the book, chapter, and verse.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Religious Hank]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Please point out where any True Christian™ misquoted, interpreted, or added to or subtracted from Scripture.

Be specific, and cite the book, chapter, and verse.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Well, since they have come up with this theory, then they have to show evidence that it is the thruth. Does the bible really discribes it like this? And I don't think that the bible alone is enough evindence.
But I discovered that this is a biblestudy site, so my opinion about proving something will most likely not matter here.

But still I'm curious, does the bible really describe it like this? (I've read a kidsbible some time ago and that's not a great source)

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I'm curious, does the bible really describe it like this? (I've read a kidsbible some time ago and that's not a great source)

Yes.

Now please be polite and go introduce yourself.

[PhDAstrophysic]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Evidence please.

Evidence:

• Morphology
• Developmental biology
• Genetics
• Paleontology
• Biogeography

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Evidence:

• Morphology
• Developmental biology
• Genetics
• Paleontology
• Biogeography

What would be the acceptable thing to do would be to site the reference you are using with the Harvard reference scheme.

It would be the polite thing to do in a debate.

YIC

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Evidence:

• Morphology
• Developmental biology
• Genetics
• Paleontology
• Biogeography

Your irrelevant appeal to authority was trumped in 2008 by Herr Doktor Doktor:

I have always maintained that racial theories are relevant in understanding God's plan. It's plain to see, written in black and white in the Bible.

Those pseudo "scientists" who nay-say should book an early ticket on the Hell train and just let us get on with making this place a better world.

..however the fields you have mentioned, albeit not in any form that would be considered evidence not even by a latrine attendant 3rd class, do have one thing in common. They consider that humans evolved from from some common ancestor of paralysis ticks, jellyfish and monkeys into more "developed" species. Now I don't agree with that and am happy to say so but nevertheless I'm aware that some people will believe all sorts of stuff just because their false religion of "science" tells them to.

So when Bort the simpleton announces "that's evolution" unfortunately it is not. For a start, the Darwinist belief system holds that natural selection is the origin of SPECIES. A species is not cross fertile with another species. For example a horse and a donkey may produce a mule, but mules are sterile. Similarly, despite the earnest wish of science fiction illustrators, if any human tried to breed with an octopus or even a gorilla there would be no offspring at all. That's what's meant by species.

In the case of humans then, according to Darwinism, we are progressively becoming better and better. But the reverse is what we observe, and they're big on observations aren't they? From Africa they say we evolved outwards, across the Arabian peninsular, skirting what would later become Persia, occasionally climbing over the Himalayas, turning into chinamen (who are absolutely cross fertile with other humans and are therefore the same species so nothing has evolved there), what glorious development this wave of ever increasing sophistication must bring!

But it doesn't.

From the original humans who had fully developed language and teeth we see only degeneration (except for the single line which has not denied God and therefore not degenerated). In some cases denying God was insufficient a thrill and it was necessary to disobey Him as well. Then to sex pervert. And so we arrive at Ham.

We know that Noah had not degenerated (because we have not degenerated and we are descended from Noah) but that the line of Ham became supercontaminated as soon as he decided to go perving in tents looking for any displayed genitals and sure enough he found some.

BANG! right there

Blasted in perpetuity forever

And that is exactly what we see. The degenerate forms of humanity have spread outwards degenerating as they go. No mere curse for 10 or 4 generations, from which perhaps some recovery may be possible as was evident in England for a period and as may be occuring today in Israel [subject to Pastoral confirmation]. From Africa to Australia and onwards to New Zealand it's been downhill all the way. And God explains why.

From the historical record:

GENESIS 9
19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
28 And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.
29 And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.
KJV

Now that's what I call evidence.

Love it or loathe it.

You certainly can't deny it.

[Goddess Of Logic]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Yeah the natives were saving the lands ready for you #Sarcasm. What was the benefit of the Indians saving america for you? Were they preserving it or something ha. So as a thank you, the colonists murdered raided and raped. Nice logic, at what age did you figure out Santa was not real?..........at what age did you realise god was not real?.........