[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Where did the races come from?

@OP

How did you know Noah's sons had different skin color again?

The names of Noah's sons.

[JRFinn]

Re: Where did the races come from?

It's a myth spread by fundamentalist mormons/neo-nazi christians to justify their attitudes toward the other races.

[Greyhund]

Re: Where did the races come from?

@OP

How did you know Noah's sons had different skin color again?

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Where did the races come from?

This entire thread is a lie.
It is a scientific fact that all humanity evolved from homoerectus and homoneanderthallianus.
This had the output of us, homosapians.
All humanity came from a hunter-gatherer tribe in Africa.
It is proven that all humanity came from Africa, therefore we are all of African descent.

Your whole argument is nothing more than "I heard different in science class so you're wrong".

We simply change in skin pigment because of the location in which our ancestors lived.

So according to your logic, if I were to move to Africa tomorrow, how long would it take my grandchildren to turn black?

More ignorance coming from you people, it's hard to believe that you people take for granted science, because it has given you all of your materialistic values.
Everything around you came from science.
The computer your placing imput into, the lightbulb that may be in the room you're in.

We have computers and lightbulbs because God told us how to make them.

Science also explains the way in which the modern life system came to be, a testable explanation called Darwin's theory of evolution.

Testable?

So you are saying that a scientist can set up laboratory conditions to demonstrate one kind of creature turning into another kind, a.k.a. macroevolution?

Do a little research my friends, it's carries with it much more explanations to how we came to be than six days and a magical bearded man.

It takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution that it does to believe the Word of God.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Where did the races come from?

This entire thread is a lie.
It is a scientific fact that all humanity evolved from homoerectus and homoneanderthallianus.

No, it is not, it is conjecture based upon so-called scientists try to justify their salaries by inventing patterns of development that really aren't there.

This had the output of us, homosapians.

Your authority is diminished by poor spelling.

All humanity came from a hunter-gatherer tribe in Africa.
It is proven that all humanity came from Africa, therefore we are all of African descent.
We simply change in skin pigment because of the location in which our ancestors lived.

Son, jigaboos look like jigaboos be they black or white!

Everything around you came from science.

I point to my dog and my wife.

[...] the lightbulb that may be in the room you're in.

"And God said, "Let there be light..." lightbulbs are but a pale shadow of the greatness of the sun and moon, which He created; they are poor imitations of the real thing but based upon His Ideas and Plan.

Science also explains the way in which the modern life system came to be, a testable explanation called Darwin's theory of evolution.

No, science sees the result and then fits so-called "discoveries" around it.

My Nephew Zebulun is working on a biblical research project that will expose the fact that Darwin wrote his book for a bet!

Do a little research my friends, it's carries with it much more explanations to how we came to be than six days and a magical bearded man.

Pot calling kettle black?

[Wide-Open]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I see you are not denying that he is drunk and delusional though?

I didn't think it was worth denying. We know Pastor Zeke, we have all listened to his sermons, his dedication to The Lord, his compassion for other True Christians(TM), his pure and passionate love for Sister BibleThumpingBlonde, his many good works. Your slander has no effect on us.

You sir, are just as ignorant as he is, and cannot come up with an argument that can stand against science and reason.

And you seem to think that namecalling and venting anger equates to "reason".

I don't have to argue with you about so called "science". I have my FAITH and that's enough for me. GLORY!

[WiseAss]

Re: Where did the races come from?

STOP LYING FRIEND!

Pastor Ezekiel is 25, not 28.

Get your facts straight.

I see you are not denying that he is drunk and delusional though?
I also see you are not deny the points I made, and neither is anyone else on this forum.
You sir, are just as ignorant as he is, and cannot come up with an argument that can stand against science and reason.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Where did the races come from?

The above insult comes from a 28 year old drunk, delusional, is not in touch with his sexuality and has is closed minded and is wasting his life away at the hands of what he thinks is the "highest ideal."

STOP LYING FRIEND!

Pastor Ezekiel is 25, not 28.

Get your facts straight.

[WiseAss]

Re: Where did the races come from?

The above rant comes to you from a 19 year old atheist liar who takes dope and masturbates constantly but has never read the Holy Bible even once.

The above insult comes from a 28 year old drunk, delusional, is not in touch with his sexuality and has is closed minded and is wasting his life away at the hands of what he thinks is the "highest ideal."
All of what I said previously has been proven, unlike your "Holey Bible" (because it is filled with flaws) which is completely untestable.
You are all ignorant people who are not in touch with reality. You cannot comprehend the expansive knowledge of science and turn to religious superstition instead.
You cannot come up with a decent argument, therefore "God must have done it"
This is always the explanation of a desperate man.
You all need to go look up Darwin's theory of evolution, study it, and open your minds beyond six days and a bearded dead guy.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Where did the races come from?

This entire thread is a lie.
It is a scientific fact that all humanity evolved from homoerectus and homoneanderthallianus.
This had the output of us, homosapians.
All humanity came from a hunter-gatherer tribe in Africa.
It is proven that all humanity came from Africa, therefore we are all of African descent.
We simply change in skin pigment because of the location in which our ancestors lived.
More ignorance coming from you people, it's hard to believe that you people take for granted science, because it has given you all of your materialistic values.
Everything around you came from science.
The computer your placing imput into, the lightbulb that may be in the room you're in.
Science also explains the way in which the modern life system came to be, a testable explanation called Darwin's theory of evolution.
Do a little research my friends, it's carries with it much more explanations to how we came to be than six days and a magical bearded man.

The above rant comes to you from a 19 year old atheist liar who takes dope and masturbates constantly but has never read the Holy Bible even once.

[WiseAss]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Everyone knows that Noah had three boys, Japheth, Shem, and Ham. Most folks also know that Japhteth went to Europe to become the progenitor of the Caucasoids, Shem stayed in the Middle East to become the progenitor of the Semites, and Ham went to Africa to become the progenitor of the Negroids.

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That explains the three major races, but what about all of the sub-races? Where did the Armenians, or the Kurds, or the Chinese come from? We'll see all of the microevolution that led to the generation of those races here.

First we'll take Japheth's line.

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Japheth had seven sons that each founded the seven major divisions within the Caucasoid race. Gomer's three sons and Javan's four sons each founded subdivisions within their lines. I'll bet you didn't know that we folks of North-Western European descent are closer kin to the Turks than we are to the Eastern Europeans. If we could only get those Turks to give up their Muslim Moon-worship and become saved.

Next we'll take Shem's line. This will take three diagrams.

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Shem had five sons that each founded the five major divisions within the Semite race. The Hebrews were favored by God back then, so they had fewer microevolutionary mutations (remember, ALL mutations are harmful), therefore it took more generations for racial divisions to form in Arphaxad's line.

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This diagram shows Aram's line. If you are paying attention, you will have noticed that the Armenians are making their second appearance. Earlier we learned that the Armenians were Caucasoids descended from Javan via Tarshish, and now I'm telling you that the Armenians are Semites descended from Aram via Hul. What gives? Is this one of the fabled "contradictions" that the atheists are always going on about?

Not at all. Tarshish and Hul settled the same area, and their sons married each other's daughters, and their races hybridized. The Armenians are half-Caucasoid / half-Semite mongrels. More specifically, they are half-Greek / half-Aramite mongrels.

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This diagram shows Eber's line. As I mentioned earlier, the Hebrews were favored by God. That's why it took eight generations of Hebrews to get to Israelites.

The Hamites were so prolific and promiscuous, they require four diagrams. I will add them in the next post.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

This entire thread is a lie.
It is a scientific fact that all humanity evolved from homoerectus and homoneanderthallianus.
This had the output of us, homosapians.
All humanity came from a hunter-gatherer tribe in Africa.
It is proven that all humanity came from Africa, therefore we are all of African descent.
We simply change in skin pigment because of the location in which our ancestors lived.
More ignorance coming from you people, it's hard to believe that you people take for granted science, because it has given you all of your materialistic values.
Everything around you came from science.
The computer your placing imput into, the lightbulb that may be in the room you're in.
Science also explains the way in which the modern life system came to be, a testable explanation called Darwin's theory of evolution.
Do a little research my friends, it's carries with it much more explanations to how we came to be than six days and a magical bearded man.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I don't think this is accurate, from a number of perspectives.

That all sounds very impressive, professor, but the only "perspective" I'm interested in is the True perspective, i.e. God's perspective as spelled out explicitly in His Holy Word. The Holy Bible says that Ham was Canaan's father, and that Canaan was the progenitor of the middle and far eastern black sub-races, so I can confidently reject your counterarguments out of hand.

The fact that the Babylonians and Phoenicians spoke some kind of patois and borrowed a few words from the language spoken by the Israelites doesn't make God a liar.

A particular mutation referred to as M168 is present in a number of Sub-Saharan Africans, but absent in other allegedly 'Hamitic' ethnic groups.

I already said that the Cushites were one of four different branches of the Hamitic race. They must have inherited that particular deformity from directly Cush, who did not share it with his brothers.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I don't think this is accurate, from a number of perspectives. Y DNA haplogroup evidence doesn't correlate the Chinese or East Asians to Africans in any way, and these markers show in fact a completely seperate lineage. A particular mutation referred to as M168 is present in a number of Sub-Saharan Africans, but absent in other allegedly 'Hamitic' ethnic groups.

Equally, the notion of Babylonians being a Hamitic people is not accurate. The Babylonians were semites like the Assyrians or Sumerians who spoke a Semetic language, the same holds true for the Egyptians, and the groups of the Levant such as the Phonecians. Equally, the Hittites are not at all a Hamitic group of people, they in fact were Indo-Europeans, related to the Greeks who later became the Anatolian people which existed until the conquest of much of Asia Minor by the Turks after 1071, they spoke an Indo-European language related to Greek before becoming more Hellenized after Rome conquered the area.

Equally, the Slavs actually did not emerge as a distinctive ethnic group until Late Antiquity, roughly around the 6th century AD, speaking a language in part drawn from the Germanic Gothic people, and in part from the Altaic people which lived in the region (such as Bulgars). Finally, the Indians and Persian are not Hamitic and Semitic respectively. Both are Indo-European groups of people, equally, Elam does not at all refer to Persians, that was a former kingdom which existed in the modern Iranian province of Khuzestan and played a role in Fertile Crescent power struggles. Their state was absorbed by Cyrus the Great and its descendents are most likely the Ahwazi Arabs who inhabit the Khuzestan region of Iran.

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Where did the races come from?

This has been very educational, but I still don't understand how we classify the Irish. Are they sons of Ham in concept only or are they actual descendents?

[Brother Guy Bayard]

Re: Where did the races come from?

From whence came the Australoid aboriginals (neanderthals), the so-called lowest branch of humanity?

"the Lowest Branch" - would that be the 'branch' they are still swinging from?
(you'll have to excuse me - I don't normally approve of levity, but this seemed too good an opportunity to miss.)