[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

I AM NOT A THEIST I DO NOT BELEIVE IN GOD. I HAVE JUST STARTED READING THE BOOK BECUASE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IT. IM IN IT FOR THE STORIES

As I said before mocking you failed and I didn't get a promotion. Now let's be on the same side.

Young lady, there is no need to shout. A good Christian is a good listener so there really is no reason to yell at the top of your lungs.

Now that to your position point: who was promoted?

YIC

[uncool dude]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

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I AM NOT A THEIST I DO NOT BELEIVE IN GOD. I HAVE JUST STARTED READING THE BOOK BECUASE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IT. IM IN IT FOR THE STORIES

As I said before mocking you failed and I didn't get a promotion. Now let's be on the same side.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Currently I began reading the bible. Can I ask why you favour the KJV?

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[uncool dude]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Have you ever read the holy Bible, Demon?

Currently I began reading the bible. Can I ask why you favour the KJV?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Please tell me what's so hard about hydrogen fusing into helium? Actually this is nuclear fusion. Powerplants use fission.

Have you ever read the holy Bible, Demon?

[uncool dude]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Please tell me what's so hard about hydrogen fusing into helium? Actually this is nuclear fusion. Powerplants use fission.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

"The Sun and other stars use nuclear fusion to release energy. The sequence of nuclear fusion reactions in a star is complex - but, in general, hydrogen nuclei join to form helium nuclei. Here is one nuclear fusion reaction that takes place"

Have you seen that with your own God given eyes or do you just believe everything you are told?

I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

YIC

Jack

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Son, all I see is your confusion here. As Titus mentioned, it's kind of dumb to believe there is nucular power plant inside the sun. Those are white hot coals, son! White hot! Think about it for a minute - how could anyone build a high tech power plant on white hot coals?

[uncool dude]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

If there was a nuclear power plant inside the sun, then yes.
But that isn't possible. The sun was created by God and since then was shining everyday the same.

Nuclear fusion
Nuclear fusion involves two atomic nuclei joining to make a large nucleus. Energy is released when this happens.
The Sun and other stars use nuclear fusion to release energy. The sequence of nuclear fusion reactions in a star is complex - but, in general, hydrogen nuclei join to form helium nuclei. Here is one nuclear fusion reaction that takes place

That's how the fusion works.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Nuclear fusion

If there was a nuclear power plant inside the sun, then yes.
But that isn't possible. The sun was created by God and since then was shining everyday the same.

[uncool dude]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

And where does the sun's energy come from?

God Almighty, that's where!

Nuclear fusion

[Lord of Kelvin]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

Son, this cannot possibly be true. In the meantime, you are most welcome to introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! You can read all kinds of helpful information ON THIS THREAD for newcomers like yourself. If you’d like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural Support where we can see how wonderfully God said it first. Finally, your rights on our forum can be found HERE.

Mary, I thank you for that typically American Christian welcome to these forums. I would like you to know that I intent to cite no scripture as references to any kind of scientific post. My posts are my knowledge, should I need to reference and cite external scientific sources and journals, I will do so. I am a man of science, not a man of God. I am an atheist, a scientist and a skeptically minded free-thinker. I would also like to thank you for pointing out how many rights I am granted on this site, again, how typically Christian and American of you.

I look forward to helping you people realise that whilst it is okay to have a religion, to begin to question the scientific reasoning that has advanced us so far as a species, and indeed now allows you to communicate via this forum, is the most offensive thing you can do as humans.

Thanks again for making me feel at home here.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

First of all, you misspelled Evolution, the ability to put new words into the middle of existing ones to somehow change their meaning does not enhance your argument, rather is weakens it considerably as you look childish. The inability to debate a theory without having to resort to petty and unimportant attacks weakens your argument greatly, but for now, I'll look past it, because I'm just that nice.

As for your use of the Second Law of Thermodynamics in the theory of evolution; it's not really valid. The laws of thermodynamics refer specifically to simply, isolated systems, systems of few variables. The comparison of the entire ecosystem of the planet Earth to such a system is a gross over-simplification. However, for now let us assume that it holds for this system.

Over time, in any given system, entropy must increase, at best it can stand still, but it can never go backwards. However, what you have misunderstood in this law is the scientific definition of 'disorder'. Disorder means Complexity. If you think about it, if something is very complex, there are a lot of variables present, a lot of things going on. This is generally referred to as a disordered state, because not everything is the same.

Now, you move onto a source of energy for all of this, well, I hate to break it to you, but we do have such an energy source. The Sun; our Sun, our Star, Sol, Helos, whatever you want to call it. This giant ball of hydrogen and helium creates vast amounts of energy through nuclear fusion. This process has provided energy to the planet ever since the creation of the solar system, 4.5 billion years ago. It provides the light for photosynthesis, creating plants for animals to eventually feed on. Creating the weather, seasons and the warmth we require to survive.

All the pieces are there, we have the evidence, we have the research. What's more, we have thousands upon thousands of texts, all by different authors conducting their own, independent research. And they all agree with each other. Evolution is scientifically understood fact. Period.

Son, this cannot possibly be true. In the meantime, you are most welcome to introduce yourself HERE so we can greet you properly! You can read all kinds of helpful information ON THIS THREAD for newcomers like yourself. If you’d like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scriptural Support where we can see how wonderfully God said it first. Finally, your rights on our forum can be found HERE.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

I want to mate with kelvin. Evolution is not going away. The evidence for it is only growing. Radioactive decay strongly supports the Earth being over 6000 years old. Our huge collection of many fossils strongly supports evolution.

[Lord of Kelvin]

Re: Second Law of Thermodynamics Disproves Evilution

One of the most basic scientific principles is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that, over time, entropy (disorder) in an environment will increase.

Evilution, on the other hand, argues that we start off simple and, gradually over time, grew more complex. By the Second Law of Thermodynamics, that just isn't possible, since we would be trending toward disorder rather than complexity.

Such a phenomenon (which I might add, is entirely theoretical) would require a large external power source, supplying the earth with huge amounts of energy. If there was such an energy source, one would expect that secular "scientists" would know about it.

Without accounting for an external source of energy, the evilutionist conspiracy falls apart at the seams. Not only does the Bible provide evidence against Darwinist evilution, even secular science confirms that the Bible is true and evilution is false.

First of all, you misspelled Evolution, the ability to put new words into the middle of existing ones to somehow change their meaning does not enhance your argument, rather is weakens it considerably as you look childish. The inability to debate a theory without having to resort to petty and unimportant attacks weakens your argument greatly, but for now, I'll look past it, because I'm just that nice.

As for your use of the Second Law of Thermodynamics in the theory of evolution; it's not really valid. The laws of thermodynamics refer specifically to simply, isolated systems, systems of few variables. The comparison of the entire ecosystem of the planet Earth to such a system is a gross over-simplification. However, for now let us assume that it holds for this system.

Over time, in any given system, entropy must increase, at best it can stand still, but it can never go backwards. However, what you have misunderstood in this law is the scientific definition of 'disorder'. Disorder means Complexity. If you think about it, if something is very complex, there are a lot of variables present, a lot of things going on. This is generally referred to as a disordered state, because not everything is the same.

Now, you move onto a source of energy for all of this, well, I hate to break it to you, but we do have such an energy source. The Sun; our Sun, our Star, Sol, Helos, whatever you want to call it. This giant ball of hydrogen and helium creates vast amounts of energy through nuclear fusion. This process has provided energy to the planet ever since the creation of the solar system, 4.5 billion years ago. It provides the light for photosynthesis, creating plants for animals to eventually feed on. Creating the weather, seasons and the warmth we require to survive.

All the pieces are there, we have the evidence, we have the research. What's more, we have thousands upon thousands of texts, all by different authors conducting their own, independent research. And they all agree with each other. Evolution is scientifically understood fact. Period.