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  • Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

    The other day an acquaintance emailed me this link to an anecdote in which a college student – supposedly Einstein – “pwns” his atheist professor. Now I like a good story about an atheist getting his butt kicked in a debate as much as the next True Christian™, but to claim this as a victory for Christ is just plain dishonest, a breach of the ninth commandment. Yet gullible pseudo-Christians continue to perpetuate this urban myth, which I believe Satan is using to undermine True Christianity™. Let’s examine the story.
    Professor: You are a Christian, aren’t you, son?
    Student: Yes, sir.
    The first thing that struck me as odd is that this ostensibly Christian student is studying at a secular university under an atheist professor. After reading these opening lines, alarm bells immediately started going off in my mind.

    Professor: So, you believe in GOD?
    Student: Absolutely, sir.

    Professor: Is GOD good?
    Student: Sure.
    Professor: Is GOD all-powerful?
    Student: Yes.
    So far so good.

    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
    (Student was silent.)


    This part seemed a bit off to me. How could a True Christian™ man be stumped by the question of unanswered prayer? There are many different approaches he could have taken. He could have told him God doesn’t hear the prayers of sinners, for instance.


    Professor: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
    Student: Yes.

    Professor: Is satan good?
    Student: No.
    Professor: Where does satan come from?
    Student: From … GOD …
    Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
    Student: Yes.
    Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
    Student: Yes.
    Professor: So who created evil?
    (Student did not answer.)
    Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
    Student: Yes, sir.
    Professor: So, who created them?
    (Student had no answer.)
    Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
    Student: No, sir.
    Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
    Student: No, sir.
    Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
    Student: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
    Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
    Student: Yes.
    Professor: According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
    Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
    Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
    Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
    Professor: Yes.
    Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
    Professor: Yes.
    Student: No, sir. There isn’t.
    (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
    Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
    (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
    Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
    Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
    Student: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
    Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man?
    Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
    Professor: Flawed? Can you explain how?
    Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
    Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.


    So the student is stumped by questions that any competent True Christian™ man could answer off the cuff. He then resorts to a tired old fluffy-bunny argument. Just as cold is the absence of heat and darkness is the absence of light, so death is the absence of life and evil is the absence of good. This is simply unbiblical.


    Cold exists. I found 17 references to cold in the Bible, and the Bible wouldn’t tell us something existed if it didn’t really exist. We will always have cold as long as the earth exists.

    Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

    Cold is as real as heat and summer and winter and day and night. If cold doesn’t exist, how could it be in danger of ceasing? And how could it move from one place to another? Why in Job is it compared to a whirlwind, something we can see? Cold comes from the breath of God, and we know God exists.

    Job 37:9-10 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north. By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.

    God creates both cold and heat by the power of His word, just as He made everything at Creation.

    Ps 147:15-18
    15 He sendeth forth his commandment [upon] earth: his word runneth very swiftly.
    16 He giveth snow like wool: he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes.
    17 He casteth forth his ice like morsels: who can stand before his cold?
    18 He sendeth out his word, and melteth them: he causeth his wind to blow, [and] the waters flow.

    Who would be unable to stand before something that doesn’t exist? The rest of the student’s argument can be debunked with one verse. Both darkness and evil exist and were created by God.

    Is 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

    Student: Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?


    It’s heartening to see that after years of college education, this student had a thorough understanding of evolution yet still wasn’t swayed by it. So many students lose their faith in college.

    Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
    Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
    (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)
    Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
    (The class was in uproar.)
    Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
    (The class broke out into laughter.)
    Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
    (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)
    Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
    Student: That is it sir … Exactly! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.


    Faith does not keep things alive and moving. Jesus does.


    Heb 1:1-3 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

    Jesus is the link between man and God.

    1 Tim 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    The student seems to be under the misguided impression that the center of the mind is the brain, but this is unscriptural. Thinking is done in the heart.

    Prov 23:7a For as he thinketh in his heart, so [is] he:

    It looks like he is already being corrupted by his secular education. Anyway, his argument is unsound. No one can see God because He is invisible.

    Col 1:15 [Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    But the brain is visible. For example, if this professor allows his corpse to be desecrated after he dies by donating his body to science, then students in theory would be able to dissect him and would in all likelihood find a brain inside his head.

    This story is very inconsistent. It’s the fluffy-bunny “Christians” who are always telling us we should be more respectful, but this student was being very disrespectful to his professor towards the end by humiliating him like that, so he was being a hypocrite.

    P.S.
    By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.
    No, it wasn’t. Einstein was a God-hating, Christ-killing joo.

    This story is so internally inconsistent, unrealistic and unbiblical that is obviously a fake. I can’t fathom how fluffy-bunny Christians are unable to see that. Just goes to show how gullible they are. They’ll believe whatever they want to believe.
    sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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    Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

    Well the first problem with the story is Einstein was a German-Jew, not an atheist.

    The second thing is we have very many "sourcable" quotes from him that prove he believed in God.

    "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."

    "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."

    "God is subtle but he is not malicious."

    "God does not care about our mathematical difficulties. He integrates empirically."

    "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of god."

    "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."


    Now I'm not going to argue whether or not these quotes are Biblically accurate (he was a fuzzy bunny Jew) but they definitly prove he believed in a god.

    The atheists are just like the homers. They try and claim all the "good" people (in their opinion) as atheists and the "bad" people as christian.

    It's sad really that the only way they can prove their point is to rewrite history. Unfortunately they seem to have the full backing of the government and the publishing houses. How long until the children in public school will be learning that the "atheist allies" went and beat up the evil christian nazi's?
    Drama queen

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    • #3
      Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

      Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
      Well the first problem with the story is Einstein was a German-Jew, not an atheist.

      The second thing is we have very many "sourcable" quotes from him that prove he believed in God.

      "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."

      "I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."

      "God is subtle but he is not malicious."

      "God does not care about our mathematical difficulties. He integrates empirically."

      "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of god."

      "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

      Now I'm not going to argue whether or not these quotes are Biblically accurate (he was a fuzzy bunny Jew) but they definitly prove he believed in a god.

      The atheists are just like the homers. They try and claim all the "good" people (in their opinion) as atheists and the "bad" people as christian.

      It's sad really that the only way they can prove their point is to rewrite history. Unfortunately they seem to have the full backing of the government and the publishing houses. How long until the children in public school will be learning that the "atheist allies" went and beat up the evil christian nazi's?

      I'm really torn on this guy Einstein...

      On one hand he did invent the atom bomb that killed off all those japs, but on the other he firmly believed in a "round earth", "gravity" and other such nonsense.

      YIC
      2 Samuel 11:13 And when David had called him, he did eat and drink before him; and he made him drunk: and at even he went out to lie on his bed with the servants of his lord, but went not down to his house.

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      • #4
        Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

        Originally posted by Sammy The Penitent View Post
        I'm really torn on this guy Einstein...

        On one hand he did invent the atom bomb that killed off all those japs, but on the other he firmly believed in a "round earth", "gravity" and other such nonsense.

        YIC
        God often uses hell bound heathens for his work. Look at how he used the Babylonians to punish Israel, or Mel Gibson to create "The Passion of the Christ"

        I only quoted those to prove that he believed in God, but I doubt we're going to meet him in heaven.
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        • #5
          Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

          God gave us the bomb that created so many crispy japs at the end of WW2, not some damned joo.
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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          • #6
            Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

            I should probably also add that death exists; it's not just the absence of life.

            1 Cor 15:16 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.

            Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

            Jesus couldn't defeat an enemy that doesn't exist.
            sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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            • #7
              Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
              God gave us the bomb that created so many crispy japs at the end of WW2, not some damned joo.
              Pastor Ezekiel is, as always, correct.

              Even if Einstein stayed in a line of work fitting a joo; counting money, hoarding diamonds...etc. God would have brought His Wrath upon the atheist slants in a manner of His choosing.

              YIC
              2 Samuel 11:13 And when David had called him, he did eat and drink before him; and he made him drunk: and at even he went out to lie on his bed with the servants of his lord, but went not down to his house.

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              • #8
                Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                Originally posted by Sammy The Penitent View Post
                On one hand he did invent the atom bomb that killed off all those japs
                No, he didn't.

                Originally posted by Sammy The Penitent View Post
                but on the other he firmly believed in a "round earth", "gravity" and other such nonsense.
                Why are these nonsense? He's the one that made us see gravity in a different way.

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                • #9
                  Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                  Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                  No, he didn't.
                  Well, then, he contributed nothing useful to society.

                  Why are these nonsense?
                  The round earth conspiracy.
                  Gravity destroys your morals.

                  He's the one that made us see gravity in a different way.
                  Considering gravity destroys your morals, that can't be a good thing. You said in an earlier post:

                  Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                  If it enables me to get away from the danger religion gives to humans, then, I'll be happy to leave.
                  You said religion is dangerous, yet it is science that destroys morality and poses the biggest threat to society. Without science there would be no atomic bomb (even if it wasn't Einstein who invented it, you have to agree it was invented by scientists). Without science there would be no evolution, and we wouldn't be teaching children that they are monkeys and can behave like animals.
                  sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                    Well, then, he contributed nothing useful to society.
                    He did contribute to our society. Mental knowledge of the formation and creation of the universe would be zero if it wasn't for Einstein famous equation, E-MC2. Einstein changed the way we view the universe. His theory of relativity lead the ground work of modern physics and influenced the history of the 20th century.

                    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                    Considering gravity destroys your morals, that can't be a good thing.
                    How does gravity destroy our morals?


                    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                    You said religion is dangerous, yet it is science that destroys morality and poses the biggest threat to society. Without science there would be no atomic bomb (even if it wasn't Einstein who invented it, you have to agree it was invented by scientists). Without science there would be no evolution, and we wouldn't be teaching children that they are monkeys and can behave like animals.
                    What are you on about? Science has served mankind in both ways. However, science isn't to be blamed, but the human mind of it's corruption in finding ways to misuse science. Science has helped us to understand the beauty of evolution, the universe, our earth, our lives. Without science, we wouldn't be typing on a computer, sending men into space, having trains, planes, cars, street lamps etc etc.

                    What has religion done? It was responsible of slaughtering millions. Religion was responsible in the US burning witches, subjugation of women, support of slavery, wars, intolerance. What good has it done? Good looking art work, myths.

                    So, what's more dangerous now, religion or science?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                      Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                      He did contribute to our society. Mental knowledge of the formation and creation of the universe would be zero if it wasn't for Einstein famous equation, E-MC2. Einstein changed the way we view the universe. His theory of relativity lead the ground work of modern physics and influenced the history of the 20th century.
                      For the last 3,500 years, ever since Moses wrote the following words, God's people have known about the formation and creation of the universe.

                      Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

                      The theory of relativity was a step backwards to a time before God had given His Word.

                      How does gravity destroy our morals?
                      Did you read the thread?

                      What has religion done? It was responsible of slaughtering millions. Religion was responsible in the US burning witches, subjugation of women, support of slavery, wars, intolerance. What good has it done? Good looking art work, myths.
                      Other religions are harmful, I agree. You can't blame us for what catholics and muslims and atheists do. But burning witches (if sanctioned by the state), subjugation of women, support of slavery, wars and intolerance aren't necessarily dangerous or harmful in a Godly society.
                      sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                        Einstein himself is an evidence that the holocaust did (unfortuently) never really happen. According to secular sources, they killed all the joos, so why would they let him go?

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                          Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                          Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                          For the last 3,500 years, ever since Moses wrote the following words, God's people have known about the formation and creation of the universe.
                          Yes, the false information and creation of the universe, until Galileo, Newton and Einstein came along to display the truth to the world.

                          Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                          ...But burning witches (if sanctioned by the state), subjugation of women, support of slavery, wars and intolerance aren't necessarily dangerous or harmful in a Godly society.
                          Really? How stupid and ignorant is your 'God'?

                          Originally posted by Ex-Viking View Post
                          Einstein himself is an evidence that the holocaust did (unfortuently) never really happen. According to secular sources, they killed all the joos, so why would they let him go?
                          Really? This really shows how dangerous and evil religion is. Einstein didn't die in the holocaust because he immigrated to the United States in 1933. It just shows you're racist, ignorant or naive. Jews are people too, like you.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                            Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post
                            Really? How stupid and ignorant is your 'God'?
                            God is neither stupid nor ignorant, even if it seems that way to man.

                            1 Cor 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

                            Really? This really shows how dangerous and evil religion is. Einstein didn't die in the holocaust because he immigrated to the United States in 1933. It just shows you're racist, ignorant or naive. Jews are people too, like you.
                            The joos are not normal people. They crucified Christ and now His blood is on them (Mat 27:25). I take it you are an atheist. That is a religion too, you know. So, using your own logic, if religion is dangerous and evil, so is atheism.
                            sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Another ridiculous pseudo-Christian urban myth debunked

                              Originally posted by Albert The Lunkhead View Post

                              Really? This really shows how dangerous and evil religion is. Einstein didn't die in the holocaust because he immigrated to the United States in 1933. It just shows you're racist, ignorant or naive. Jews are people too, like you.
                              Joos are people, but they are not Christians and are therefore sinners worthy of death penalty according to the Bible. If they killed all the joos then why did they let him leave the country in the first place? Makes no sense what-so-ever.

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