[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Health Consequences of Being Mixed-Race

Understandable, though statistical evidence or data on which normally research is based cant take a single case into consideration. For example its like trying to predict the action of one person to some artificial situation. Practically impossible. But given a large enough number of people the trend in behavior is easily predictable.

I don't trust statistics. They're always used to manipulate information for the money. Besides, nobody I know has ever seen a mulatto do anything with their lives.

I myself am a proponent of eugenics

Of course you are.

meaning that people races are like breeds some are better adapted to their environment. In Europe and north we relied on multiple skills like trapping, constructing shelter, managing and saving food for long winters etc. These task require a lot of planning and intelligence. While in Africa people relied on agility and speed for hunting (no need for sturdy shelter or food conservation as no severe winters). Denying that black guys are better sprinters is like saying that grass is red.

No one is denying negroes are better sprinters. Why do you think whites don't steal as much? Because they get caught by the police where the negroes don't. Well, that, and it's a part of the negro culture to steal.

New Scientist published a study in 2011 i think where a national triathlon champion of Sweden went down to west africa and competed against school age kids of 12-14 in 100m sprint. About 60% of kids ran faster than him. Was probably quite shocking...

Not to anyone trying to catch a group of negro kids running out of their store after taking the "five finger discount"!

Thats not to say there aren't very smart black people out there, there are just not as many.

Yes dear, we know that. It's not because they were on the African planes for millions of years, it's because God cursed them with servitude and how smart does a servant have to be? Not so smart. Obedience is more valuable.

[James Hutchins]

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My children have asked me about the mixing of race. Young monds, wided eted and curious. We all know what God has to say:
Deuteronomy 7:3-4
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

Deuteronomy 7:3
Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Jeremiah 2:21
Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

Exodus 33:16
For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.

I could go on, but I am just precahing to the choir, as it were.

For the simpler minds, I use this with the little ones. I givem them a pail of dirt and glass of water. I discuss that you can work the dirt and drink the water. You cannot work the water or drink the dirt. Mixing the two and it becomes unfit for anything. Isn't God magnificent in how He makes things work out?

[the unknown prophet]

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Actually there is evidence of the contrary. Genetic diversity theoretically produces stronger offspring.

What the hell are you talking about? I think you need to see some pictures of Mark Henry:



and Ed Coan:



What were you saying about mixed people being "strong"? I don't think I heard you the first time.

[the unknown prophet]

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Thats not to say there aren't very smart black people out there, there are just not as many.

As much as I want to believe you on this one, sadly, it does appear as if blacks can in fact be as intelligent as whites given the same environmental conditions:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-IQgapgenetic.htm

Likewise, a possible explanation as to why rich blacks don't do well on the SAT is that many of them still grow up in poor neighborhoods.

[Divine Shadow]

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Yeah i dont think i mentioned physical strength. Just speed, agility and cardio.

Also i cant access that study link unfortunately.

[the unknown prophet]

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Yeah i dont think i mentioned physical strength. Just speed, agility and cardio.

Also i cant access that study link unfortunately.

I'll see if I can make it rain with some major quotage:

Contrary to "The Bell Curve" findings, a new study by researchers at Columbia and Northwestern Universities suggests that poverty and early learning opportunities -- not race -- account for the gap in IQ scores between blacks and whites. (The study will be published in the April [96] issue of Child Development.

Black families are more likely to live in poor neighborhoods, whether or not they are poor themselves. "Almost one half of all black children whose families were not poor resided in poor neighborhoods, compared with less than 10 percent of white children," said Duncan.

At the time of The Bell Curve's publishing, there were seven studies in the scientific literature concerning the cause of the black/white IQ gap. Six of them point to the environment; and only one points to genetics.

After World War II, many American GI's (both white and black) fathered children by German women; these children were then raised in German society. The children fathered by black GI's had an average IQ of 96.5, and the children fathered by white GI's had an average IQ of 97 -- a statistically insignificant difference.

Now, the studies weren't perfect:

There are statistical difficulties with all the above studies. For example, Scarr and Weinberg themselves believe that their adoption study is not informative on the question of genes, race and IQ, because their study sample was small, the adoption agencies could have selectively placed the kids, the adoptive families were recruited on a voluntary basis, the natural parents' IQs were not known, the black children were adopted at a substantially later age, and the social stigma of being a black child in a white family probably has effects on development.

But:

as Nisbett points out, the six studies suggesting a social rather than genetic factor were taken at very different times and places, under a wide variety of circumstances. That they should all suffer from the same sort of self-selection is therefore implausibly great.

I include this information because as a True Christian, (and not a false prophet) I am very concerned with learning about and understanding reality as it is, and not as I want it to be. Not only does this link further confirm my belief in Jesus and the talking-snake/uppity woman origins of pain and suffering, it also proves the existence of God. After all, miracles prove the existence of God, and if God can allow for blacks to be equal to whites in terms of intellectual capability, that is a pretty amazing miracle my friend.

[Divine Shadow]

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Oh i got the link to work, without going through all of the sources what strikes me straight away is that children weren't entirely black to start with. Their mothers were white so its a mixed race child to start with. Also if those were American black GIs who fathered those children they were likely to have a large portion of mixed blood too as interbreeding did occur in america continuously in their ancestry.
I suppose that can be used as argument to say that the study is biased as the only real way to produce relevant result is by introducing children from central parts of africa into white middle class family environment.
Just a thought...

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Just a thought...

Why not share your thoughts on your favorite Bible Verse?

[Divine Shadow]

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Why not share your thoughts on your favorite Bible Verse?

Im literally a step away from getting banned... Regardless:

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways” declares the Lord.

[the unknown prophet]

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Oh i got the link to work, without going through all of the sources what strikes me straight away is that children weren't entirely black to start with. Their mothers were white so its a mixed race child to start with. Also if those were American black GIs who fathered those children they were likely to have a large portion of mixed blood too as interbreeding did occur in america continuously in their ancestry.

Well, there were these parts of the link:

Another study measured the IQ's of children from black-white unions. Assuming that mothers are more important than fathers in the education and socialization of their children, the study sought to see if a child's IQ is higher when the white partner is the mother. This turned out to be true -- the IQ of a racially mixed child averages 9 points higher when it is the mother who is white.

In another study of children raised in residential institutions, black, white and racially mixed children who were raised in the same enriched environment were given IQ tests. At four years of age, the white children had an average IQ of 103, the blacks had an average IQ of 108, and the racially mixed children had an average IQ of 106.

As for the GI study, even if the African American fathers had been somewhat mixed, wouldn't that still have allowed for a slight difference in the average IQs of the white and mixed children, if not a significant difference? Anyways, now liberals can't use the excuse that mixed race people are supposedly "smarter" than non mixed people. We already know that they're weaker than either full blacks or full whites in terms of upper-body strength.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Im literally a step away from getting banned... Regardless:

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways” declares the Lord.

Well maybe if you use the opportunity to praise Jesus, you can stay!

[Alvin Moss]

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[QUOTE=Divine Shadow;

You will probably dismiss this as lies, from the authors who brought you spherical earth, gravity and evolution... [/QUOTE]

Yes, clearly.

They have also brought us spacemen, time travel and Democrats.

Are you on your side of your arguement or God's side? It seems like you can't make up your mind.

[the unknown prophet]

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Why not share your thoughts on your favorite Bible Verse?

Mine personally is Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake." This verse is really handful in winning arguments because even if I get criticized for being wrong, that only increases my heavenly reward. It's almost like a win-win situation.

[Alvin Moss]

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And another thing- I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would ever want to eat a haggis.

You people wear womens skirts, drink strong whiskey, deny God and you have the gall to attempt to instruct Christians on a Christian site.

There is something wrong with you. Better come to Jesus and quick. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.

[the unknown prophet]

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Yes, clearly.

They have also brought us spacemen, time travel and Democrats.

Are you on your side of your arguement or God's side? It seems like you can't make up your mind.

Divine Shadow is probably a racist Hitler-worshiper anyway. Yo Shadow, you do realize that True Christians civilized your inferior Germanic tribes after the fall of the Roman Empire correct? So much for this idea of Aryan supremacy. Colder environments did not lead to Germanic tribes being superior intellectually to anybody else. If anything, Egypt, Sumeria, Babylon, and other great ancient civilizations were intelligent due to warm environments, not cold ones.