[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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being gay isn't a choice

I may not know him personally but if you all start giving him abuse on here because of his sexuality, I'll fudge you all up.

Bye bye.

Why are you defending pedophiles from the scathing Light of Jesus? Don't you have any moral compass whatsoever?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Um no, god didn't create the virus at all. You get AIDS from HIV, and you usually know when you have HIV.

Wrong again, nancyboy. If you open your Bible to the Book of Ezekiel, you will see that when really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you. And we give Praise to Him for it!

Ezekiel 14:13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14:15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:

14:17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:

14:19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:

14:21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

[Mikey Anderson]

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Why are you defending pedophiles from the scathing Light of Jesus? Don't you have any moral compass whatsoever?

She's not defending pedophiles, she's defending homosexuals like myself. The one with morals is the one who doesn't judge someone based on who they're attracted to. Homosexual doesn't mean pedophile. Plus, I'm 16 and I'm gay so technically I couldn't be a pedophile if I tried.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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An addiction of the stimulation of the prostate? No, you're just jealous that we get the pleasure of it and you don't. ;D I could live without it, but I don't want to.

Friend, you have just admitted that it is indeed a choice, and that you could date women but you CHOOSE to take things in a rectal direction.

The Bible says that you are not worthy of the breath you breathe.

Leviticus
20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Nevertheless, this is a confirmation that Jesus is comming soon, and come he shall!

2 Timothy
3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Which explains why silly women are attempting to defend homersexurality.

Amen! Come Lord Jesus!

[Mikey Anderson]

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Friend, you have just admitted that it is indeed a choice, and that you could date women but you CHOOSE to take things in a rectal direction.

No, it's a choice to have sex with other men. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Sure, I could date women. Would I be truly happy? No. Would I be attracted to them at all? No. Would I want to have sexual intercourse with them? No.

The Bible says that you are not worthy of the breath you breathe.

Everyone deserves to breathe are and live. Everyone is worth something. You know why? Because if a gay person died, and their organs were still functional, it wouldn't matter if they were gay, the organs could be sold. ;D I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

That's not what the Holy Word of God says. Wicked people are wicked from birth -- God made them that way. They tell lies immediately after birth before they can even talk. You really should read the Bible instead of listening to that satanic music.

Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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No, it's a choice to have sex with other men. I can't help who I'm attracted to. Sure, I could date women. Would I be truly happy? No. Would I be attracted to them at all? No. Would I want to have sexual intercourse with them? No.

That is because you are addicted to prostate stimulation, friend. And you are making the choice and lying to yourself.

Everyone deserves to breathe are and live. Everyone is worth something. You know why? Because if a gay person died, and their organs were still functional, it wouldn't matter if they were gay, the organs could be sold. ;D I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, everyone is worth it; it doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bisexual. You're worth it. That's another thing My Chemical Romance taught me. So ha-ha.

That ain't what the Bible says. Shall I repeat it? Yes, I will because I do not think that you read it.

Leviticus
20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

[Mikey Anderson]

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That's not what the Holy Word of God says. Wicked people are wicked from birth -- God made them that way. They tell lies immediately after birth before they can even talk. You really should read the Bible instead of listening to that satanic music.

Oh my god. Well first of all, they're not satanic. They have a song called "Heaven Help Us" (ooh so satanic) and a song called "Interlude" and the lyrics consist of 14 very religious words.

Why would god make someone wicked, and make them tell lies, if he knows that it'd result in them going to hell? Wow. Smart guy.

And maybe I like listening to my "satanic" music. Seriously, they're not even screamo (though I enjoy screamo as well). And their last album, Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys, is not satanic or even heavy metal. It's more pop-punk than anything. So, yeah. And I don't even wanna read the bible, so I think I'll continue listening to my music.

That is because you are addicted to prostate stimulation, friend. And you are making the choice and lying to yourself.

Okay, I'll let you keep on pretending I'm lying to myself. I know I'm not. I am most certainly not attracted to women. I mean sure, they can be beautiful, but it doesn't "turn me on" like men do. The human anatomy can't lie (; The only two things I'm addicted to is music and the internet.

That ain't what the Bible says. Shall I repeat it? Yes, I will because I do not think that you read it.

I do not care what the bible says and I'm almost positive no other homosexuals in the world do either. Thanks.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Um no, god didn't create the virus at all. You get AIDS from HIV, and you usually know when you have HIV.

If you're going to be a sodomite, you really need to learn the basics. How old are you, 15?

http://hivtest.cdc.gov/faq.aspx#exposure

How long after a possible exposure should I wait to get tested for HIV?

Most HIV tests are antibody tests that measure the antibodies your body makes against HIV. It can take some time for the immune system to produce enough antibodies for the antibody test to detect and this time period can vary from person to person. This time period is commonly referred to as the “window period”. Most people will develop detectable antibodies within 2 to 8 weeks (the average is 25 days). Even so, there is a chance that some individuals will take longer to develop detectable antibodies. Therefore, if the initial negative HIV test was conducted within the first 3 months after possible exposure, repeat testing should be considered >3 months after the exposure occurred to account for the possibility of a false-negative result. Ninety seven percent will develop antibodies in the first 3 months following the time of their infection. In very rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV.

So no, you don't "just know you have HIV". Some get very ill when first infected, others have no symptoms whatsoever until they've been infected for many years. By then, they've shared it with spouses, friends, and random strangers through glory holes.

The only person I have sex with is my boyfriend, and I love him (or at least I feel very strongly about him) and I'm sure he loves me too. We've both been tested and we've both come back knowing we're clean. And even if they're not clean, you can have protected sex.

Yes, and he'd never play around. Because people don't do that. Especially men.

Alfred Kinsey found in his studies that 50% of males and 26% of females had extramarital sex at least once during their lifetime.[20]

Do you tell your HIV+ friends that they're unclean? Like lepers? After all, if you're "clean", they must be "unclean". How do they react when you demand that they wear a white robe and a bell and yell "Unclean" as they walk down the street?

Are you compelled to have sex with your wife? No, but you do it anyway, because you enjoy it.

I don't have a wife, and sex is for procreation, not recreation.

Okay, I don't care what you, or god, says. How many times do I have to say that before if registers in your brain?

This is a Christian church's discussion forum. If you don't want to hear a Christian perspective, piss off.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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Okay, I'll let you keep on pretending I'm lying to myself. I know I'm not. I am most certainly not attracted to women. I mean sure, they can be beautiful, but it doesn't "turn me on" like men do. The human anatomy can't lie (; The only two things I'm addicted to is music and the internet.

Friend, you have said alot. By saying that "some women are beautiful" you have revealed the God Given Attraction© to the opposite sex that in fact reveals that aou are attracted to women.

Be honest, men do not turn you on, the temptation to sin turns you on, and makes you want to do it. That is the sinful nature of the flesh.

Thus, you have chosen to to commit an abomination against the Lord which ulitimately leads to beastiality and then to an aquied taste for French cheese.

You have already fallen into an affinity for bad taste in noise, friend.

Friend, this should not be so.

James
1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Friend, you have said alot. By saying that "some women are beautiful" you have revealed the God Given Attraction© to the opposite sex that in fact reveals that aou are attracted to women.

Be honest, men do not turn you on, the temptation to sin turns you on, and makes you want to do it. That is the sinful nature of the flesh.

Thus, you have chosen to to commit an abomination against the Lord which ulitimately leads to beastiality and then to an aquied taste for French cheese.

You have already fallen into an affinity for bad taste in noise, friend.

Friend, this should not be so.

James
1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Amen brother! If it wasn't for demonic bands like MCR, this boy might be able to achieve normal relationships with girls!

[Mikey Anderson]

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If you're going to be a sodomite, you really need to learn the basics. How old are you, 15?

16. And I know the basics, thank you very much. I learned about this in seventh grade; I'm not as dumb as you may think.

So no, you don't "just know you have HIV". Some get very ill when first infected, others have no symptoms whatsoever until they've been infected for many years. By then, they've shared it with spouses, friends, and random strangers through glory holes.

Again, learned this in seventh grade. But I know I don't have anything, and neither does my boyfriend, as he's f*cked maybe three people before me, so you don't have to worry, kay? And about other people - yeah, there are people with HIV and AIDS in the world (take Freddy Mercury for example, he died from it.) but I don't dictate nor control their lives so you can't blame me for their illnesses.

Yes, and he'd never play around. Because people don't do that. Especially men.

I'm sure there's a difference between straight men playing around and gay men playing around, because we're a lot more feminine and we're more true to the relationship. Plus you don't even know Adam, the guilt would eat him alive if he did something like that.

Do you tell your HIV+ friends that they're unclean? Like lepers? After all, if you're "clean", they must be "unclean". How do they react when you demand that they wear a white robe and a bell and yell "Unclean" as they walk down the street?

Um, well no. You're wrong. And maybe you'd do that, but us people who have this level of decency that I suppose you lack, we don't do that kind of stuff. We don't judge people. And I don't think I have any HIV+ friends, as my friends are all in high school so we're pretty innocent and I'm not friends with sluts.

I don't have a wife, and sex is for procreation, not recreation.

Two guys can't procreate so I can do it for recreation all I want. (;

Friend, you have said alot. By saying that "some women are beautiful" you have revealed the God Given Attraction© to the opposite sex that in fact reveals that aou are attracted to women.

Recognizing beauty doesn't mean attraction. I can look at a pretty girl and say, "Ooh she's pretty." But I would never look at a girl the way I look at a guy, sorry.

Be honest, men do not turn you on, the temptation to sin turns you on, and makes you want to do it. That is the sinful nature of the flesh.

You want me to be completely honest? Men do turn me on. Want me to go into details? The slight curve at the waist, the masculine features on a face, a smooth chest. It turns me on just much as the breasts or the ass of a women would turn a straight man on. Quite frankly, the temptation to sin isn't a turn on, because sinning is just like breaking a rule, and why would breaking a rule turn me on?

Thus, you have chosen to to commit an abomination against the Lord which ulitimately leads to beastiality and then to an aquied taste for French cheese.

Okay, great.

You have already fallen into an affinity for bad taste in noise, friend.

It's completely opinionated when you said "bad noise", as I might think it's good music. And by the way, saying "friend" before or after every sentence doesn't make it sound any better, in my ears. Are we friends now or something?

Friend, this should not be so.

K, great.

If it wasn't for demonic bands like MCR, this boy might be able to achieve normal relationships with girls!

My Chemical Romance has done nothing to influence my sexuality. All they did was teach me it's alright. And maybe, I don't want relationships with girls! Ever think of that?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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16. And I know the basics, thank you very much. I learned about this in seventh grade; I'm not as dumb as you may think.



Again, learned this in seventh grade. But I know I don't have anything, and neither does my boyfriend, as he's f*cked maybe three people before me, so you don't have to worry, kay? And about other people - yeah, there are people with HIV and AIDS in the world (take Freddy Mercury for example, he died from it.) but I don't dictate nor control their lives so you can't blame me for their illnesses.

And do you think Freddy Mercury "just knew" he had it?

Not until he got pneumonia, and was near death, after having shared it with many. Most people who aren't getting regularly tested have no idea, except the small percentage who get violently ill when first infected. God designed HIV to work really slowly, over a period of years, with no outward signs. That way, you people could spread it among yourselves more easily.

I suggest you read up on it; we'd like you to stay healthy long enough to get Saved!

I'm sure there's a difference between straight men playing around and gay men playing around, because we're a lot more feminine and we're more true to the relationship. Plus you don't even know Adam, the guilt would eat him alive if he did something like that.

Gay men are a lot more feminine? I've met quite a few homo truckers and bikers on my truck stop ministry who'd pound you into the dust for saying such a thing.

And did you miss the percentage of women who commit adultery?

As for "the guilt" . . . Ha! The number of men and women alike that I've heard that from, as they sit before me telling me about their cheating spouses . . . "I wouldn't believe she'd ever do that, but there she was, in MY bed, with my best friend!" Etc.

Um, well no. You're wrong. And maybe you'd do that, but us people who have this level of decency that I suppose you lack, we don't do that kind of stuff. We don't judge people. And I don't think I have any HIV+ friends, as my friends are all in high school so we're pretty innocent and I'm not friends with sluts.

Anyone with HIV is a "slut", interesting.

I have known several people who got HIV through blood transfusions. One ex-gay here at Landover (whose name I won't mention, he can speak up if he so chooses) got it from his supposedly monogamous "partner" to whom he was "sodomarried". Yeah, his partner played around and got it, then brought it home. Would you call him a "slut"?

Apparently, because you aren't friends with sluts, and only sluts have HIV.

If your "boyfriend" got HIV, do you think he'd be able to have an open and honest conversation with you about it? Or do you think he'd just lie to you?

I think he'd lie, because you've already told us how you'd respond to him.

Your comments above prove that without the Love of God, you are incapable of love, like all atheists. Adam would either lie to you or just find a reason to kick you to the curb, since he already knows that you'd reject him and not even be friends with him any more.

Tell me, did you see his test results yourself, or did you just trust him to tell you the truth? After all, you're a shallow, superficial kind of boy, so he surely knows that you'd turn on him as quickly as anyone else who was "unclean".

I'll pray you stay healthy and alive long enough to come to Jesus.

[Mikey Anderson]

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And do you think Freddy Mercury "just knew" he had it?

Not until he got pneumonia, and was near death, after having shared it with many. Most people who aren't getting regularly tested have no idea, except the small percentage who get violently ill when first infected. God designed HIV to work really slowly, over a period of years, with no outward signs. That way, you people could spread it among yourselves more easily.

God didn't "design" HIV.

I suggest you read up on it; we'd like you to stay healthy long enough to get Saved!

I'm fine for now, I've been checked not too long ago, and I don't need to read up on it. I'm not even worried about it. You're making a big deal out of nothing.

Gay men are a lot more feminine? I've met quite a few homo truckers and bikers on my truck stop ministry who'd pound you into the dust for saying such a thing.

Okay, not all gay men. But my boyfriend and I are, a singer named Jeffree Star (look him up if you want a laugh), Jayy Von Monroe, do I need to keep going? Not all, but there's quite a few that are.

And did you miss the percentage of women who commit adultery?

No, but I never said "women". I did say feminine, but I didn't call gay men women. In this case, it'd be a lower number than women and straight men.

As for "the guilt" . . . Ha! The number of men and women alike that I've heard that from, as they sit before me telling me about their cheating spouses . . . "I wouldn't believe she'd ever do that, but there she was, in MY bed, with my best friend!" Etc.

Yeah, okay, but one, this is a teenage relationship, we're not married. And two, if you've ever witnessed what Adam is like, you'd know that he's awfully faithful to the relationship.

Anyone with HIV is a "slut", interesting.

No, when I said "I'm not friends with sluts", I meant I'm not friends with girls who get around, and when you get around, you have a higher risk of f*cking someone who has HIV.

I have known several people who got HIV through blood transfusions. One ex-gay here at Landover (whose name I won't mention, he can speak up if he so chooses) got it from his supposedly monogamous "partner" to whom he was "sodomarried". Yeah, his partner played around and got it, then brought it home. Would you call him a "slut"?

No, I wouldn't. As I said above, I mean there are quite a few girls at my school who "get around", therefore they have a higher chance of getting HIV. I didn't mean that if you have HIV, then you're a slut.

Apparently, because you aren't friends with sluts, and only sluts have HIV.

You misunderstood. Badly.

If your "boyfriend" got HIV, do you think he'd be able to have an open and honest conversation with you about it? Or do you think he'd just lie to you?

First of all, you don't know him. And second of all, I don't think he'd lie. Because I trust him, and he trusts me. I don't even care! I could live without the sexual activities. It doesn't change the fact that I love him as a person.

I think he'd lie, because you've already told us how you'd respond to him.

I disagree. I never told you how I'd respond to anyone with HIV.

Your comments above prove that without the Love of God, you are incapable of love, like all atheists. Adam would either lie to you or just find a reason to kick you to the curb, since he already knows that you'd reject him and not even be friends with him any more.

I would never reject him! I love him, as a person. I think I'm perfectly capable of love. A person's capability of love has nothing to do with their religion.

Tell me, did you see his test results yourself, or did you just trust him to tell you the truth? After all, you're a shallow, superficial kind of boy, so he surely knows that you'd turn on him as quickly as anyone else who was "unclean".

I'd never turn on him, even if he did cheat on me and ended up with HIV. I'd be mad, probably furious about the cheating, but I don't think I'd be able to break it off with him. Honestly, you think I'm shallow and superficial? You wanna know something? One of the reasons I used to cut was because of an eating disorder. I bet you thought only girls could get that, right? I thought I was fat -at 106 lbs, 5'4"- so I stopped eating, and started purging. Eventually, with the help of a therapist, I overcame it, but I still have troubles with self-esteem. And again, even if he did cheat on me, and he did end up with HIV, I wouldn't leave him, because he helped me throughout all of my problems. I don't think that's very shallow and superficial.

I'll pray you stay healthy and alive long enough to come to Jesus.

No no, don't pray for me. I don't want your prayers, haha. It's pretty silly, to me, anyway.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I disagree. I never told you how I'd respond to anyone with HIV.

Sure you have, repeatedly. You said you were "clean", and never rejected my repeated assertions that people with HIV must be "unclean". Silence implies assent, so you must agree that HIV+ people aren't clean.

You also said that none of your friends have HIV, because you "aren't friends with sluts".

You have consistently made it clear that in your eyes, people with HIV are "unclean" and deserve to be sick because they don't meet your standards of sexual purity.

An odd position, coming from someone God declares an abomination worthy of death and eternal damnation, don't you think?