[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Inconvenient, but very useful, truth

Please excuse the use of NON blasphemous-emotive vocabulary

I am a nice and friendly person, so you are forgiven.

I am going to start this off by telling you: I am a goth and my mother is a Christian; I grew up in a Christian home.

So your mother is crying a lot when she sees you?

I say this as half the information you have cited has been take from http://www.godhatesgoths.com/, a web site I have had many discussions about, a site of which dose submit any thesis or arguments backed up by legitimate evidence or explanation, hens no valid argument.

I don't know that site, but given it's name it seems to make a good point. God does indeed hate Goths.

second of all, you are getting confused between Goth, Emo, Terrorist and Satanist

No we are not. All these people will burn in Hell for ignoring God.

My third point is that you, as a Christian, believe in the after life.

That is true.

I understand that the difference is the heaven hell thing. Most Goths do not worship the devil and want to do to hell (I say most as speaking for all is impossible). The melancholy demeanour which surrounds the SUB-culture is a result of the culture's construction around literature, such as

No one wants to go to Hell, yet all Goths will end up there unless they repent and stop mocking God.

My fourth point is: You are all being hypocritical! You are judging, demeaning and HATING Goths for what we do, for what you think we do and who you think we worship.

We are doing what God tells us to do.

Dose it not say, In your bible, that god is all loving, all kind, and not off hate

Not in my Bible:

People God hates:

• Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
• Deuteronomy 12:31 "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."
• Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."

God kills those who do not believe in Him and then sends them to hell:

• 2nd Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."
• Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
• John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

my Fifth point is: their are christian, the sane ones, who respect and accept the fact that their religion or faith is teaming with Goths. http://www.christiangoth.com/

Nonsense! One can not be a Goth and a Christian at the same time. You have to choose between good and evil, you cannot be both at once.

Also, this is one of your Smilies: was Jesus's death not for all man kind

No! It was only for those who believe in Him!

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

my last is that place Golgotha. The Sedlec Ossuary is what it is to day because some religious took sand from that hill, placing it in the grave yard of the Sedlec Ossuary. This gave us goths a really nice place to go, when in Europe. P.S. they say the place is furnished with the bones of around 60,000 people.

Sounds Satanic, as one would expect from Hell bound Goths.

If you are reading this last section, I applaud your resilience.

You're welcome. I pray you will stop wasting your life and choose Jesus instead.

[whatissowrongwithyou]

The Inconvenient, but very useful, truth

Please excuse the use of NON blasphemous-emotive vocabulary

I am going to start this off by telling you: I am a goth and my mother is a Christian; I grew up in a Christian home.

NOW to the bit where I say how disgraceful you, the ones who criticise a sub-culture they do not fully understand, are being.

YOUR ALL BEING DISGRACE FULL!

I say this as half the information you have cited has been take from http://www.godhatesgoths.com/, a web site I have had many discussions about, a site of which dose submit any thesis or arguments backed up by legitimate evidence or explanation, hens no valid argument.

second of all, you are getting confused between Goth, Emo, Terrorist and Satanist. the differences between Goth, Emo, and terrorist can be found here (yes it is a goth site and god will not spite you for casting site upon it): http://www.gothic.net/boards/showthread.php?p=574294. I will have to describe the difference between an Emo, who shots up a school, and a Terrorist, a word which has been corrupt by stupid american politics and media.
An Emo is an EMO-TION-AL-LY (see the EMO bit in there) confused person. they usually have a melancholy demeanour, which they can not control.
A Terrorist is a individual or organisation who acts soullessly and entirely upon terrorise and confusing its victims.
If you can not work it out your self: shooting up a school because you are emotionally sick and have a clouded mind dose not make you a terrorist; and yes, some kids who shoot up schools did leave terrorising messages; again, clouded mind.

My third point is that you, as a Christian, believe in the after life. I understand that the difference is the heaven hell thing. Most Goths do not worship the devil and want to do to hell (I say most as speaking for all is impossible). The melancholy demeanour which surrounds the SUB-culture is a result of the culture's construction around literature, such as Edger Allan Poe, The Bronte Sisters, Tim Burton, Edward Gorey, THE BIBLE and Horace Walpol, and music, such as The Cure, Marilyn Mansion, Emilie Autumn and (not very big but Christian Band) Saviour Machine.

My fourth point is: You are all being hypocritical!
You are judging, demeaning and HATING Goths for what we do, for what you think we do and who you think we worship. Dose it not say, In your bible, that god is all loving, all kind, and not off hate and that you should act as god would. your shunning of the gothic sub-cultures is both unloving and hateful. this is hypocritical as you are doing something you clam not to have a part in.

my Fifth point is: their are christian, the sane ones, who respect and accept the fact that their religion or faith is teaming with Goths. http://www.christiangoth.com/
take that for example: they respect, do not hate or stereotype. they find valid data and then-- only then-- act upon it.

My last and final point is: you clam all goths are racists. meanwhile, is one of your Smilies. you chose the most racist of all Smilies to represent you web site. I shun.
Also, this is one of your Smilies: was Jesus's death not for all man kind, for all eternity. Jesus was taken from the cross, upon GOLGOTHA, and 3 days later he was given new life. so depict him still of the cross?

I also must thank you for giving us the brilliant stories about how people can be resurrected. this gave us the ideas about infinite existence, as a mortal. (darn paradoxical)

and I lied about that being the last point.
my last is that place Golgotha. The Sedlec Ossuary is what it is to day because some religious took sand from that hill, placing it in the grave yard of the Sedlec Ossuary. This gave us goths a really nice place to go, when in Europe. P.S. they say the place is furnished with the bones of around 60,000 people.

Note:
google things like Paradox and hypocrite; find the real english meaning.
google Sedlec Ossuary and have fun.
also Looking at the linked web pages is fine. god will not send you to hell for expanding your knowledge about a SUB-CULTURE NOT RELIGION.

If you are reading this last section, I applaud your resilience.

[dandellion]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

If you ever read Bible I'm sure you'd find that God doesn't hate. But you gave yourself to the dark side and your heart is full of poison. Still, God doesn't have even you. But how can you sleep at night knowing that you betrayed him?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

I'm incredibly shocked to have found at least one other intelligent person on here. How pathetic is this forum? Targeting people just because they are different, they are supposed to be christians who believe in compassion in love..all these people know is discrimination and hate. Its quite sad really. I have never known so many childish people all under one forum.

Nonsense! You are heading straight to Hell. We are trying to save you from that. Trying to save someone is love, not hate.

2nd Timothy 4:1-2 "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

[GothicPoofter]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

This is rather funny, seeing as how I'm a Goth. We do not drink urine, that's disgusting.

There was no proof that the Columbine shootings were done by Goths.

And just because someone is wearing black and has colored hair, does not make them Goth. So actually, there isn't any proof that God hates Goths.

Anybody can murder and rape, a person who looks like an upstanding citizen could actually be a child molester. They could wear white and have short hair and be a serial killer. It doesn't matter.

I'm incredibly shocked to have found at least one other intelligent person on here. How pathetic is this forum? Targeting people just because they are different, they are supposed to be christians who believe in compassion in love..all these people know is discrimination and hate. Its quite sad really. I have never known so many childish people all under one forum..I mean, look what they changed my name too..its like something a 5 year old would do. Anyway, Thank you for standing up against ignorant twits like these.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

Nothing funny about how goths smells like. It is disgusting.
Giggling is not the first thing in my mind when I'll have to do my best not to puke up.

[GothicPoofter]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

Oh, now I get it. You are one of those Liberace gay goths. Emo.

Seriously how old are you? Ten? All you seem to be able to do is point your finger and puke out childish comments that one would hear in a kinder garden playground..seriously, why don't you just tell us we smell like poo and then go giggle in a corner at the sheer cleverness of yourself.

I love the fact that christians call everyone else besides themselves stupid or ignorant in some way. That’s the way you like to label someone who thinks differently

And just so you know..its called cybergoth..go educate yourself

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

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I wonder how many people will take this seriously. Or will people actually be intelligent enough to understand that I'm a joke

I think we all sussed you out in your first post.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

funnily enough i wear bright fluorescent clothing and dance to electronica with glowsticks

Oh, now I get it. You are one of those Liberace gay goths. Emo.

[GothicPoofter]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

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I wonder how many people will take this seriously. Or will people actually be intelligent enough to understand that I'm a joke

[James Hutchins]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

If he exists then he's a GOTH so i'm fine as I_AM_A_DOUCHE .

Me having sub 80 IQ must really limit you huh? explains all the delusional rantings I see on this site

Nice to meet you, Massengill. I am sorry to hear about your IQ. Perhaps you can find a job where it is not needed, like at a Goth store or sorting trash (or is that redundant?)
Too bad about your delusional rants, are you off your meds again?

[I_AM_A_DOUCHE]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

Got it. Wearing powder makeup and black nail polish makes you genius.
I hope you get ritualistically raped by a pack of chavs.

haha is that the best you can come up with? yes i'm a goth but i'm a different kind of goth that DOESN'T wear makeup or black nail "polish" (we call it varnish in the UK just so you know). funnily enough i wear bright fluorescent clothing and dance to electronica with glowsticks, but i guess my sub-80 IQ couldn't get past the stereotypes and your prejudiced and hateful mindset. I would love to see what your reaction is going to be when you die and realise THERE IS NO GOD AND HEAVEN

oh and by and the way i wouldn't wish that on you, i'd hate for the chavs to catch something

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

If he exists then he's a GOTH so i'm fine as I_AM_A_GOTH.

Oh by the way well done for changing my name to I_AM_A_DOUCHE - that the best you can come up with? WOW you guys are so clever. Having sub 80 IQ must really limit you huh? explains all the delusional rantings I see on this site

Got it. Wearing powder makeup and black nail polish makes you genius.
I hope you get ritualistically raped by a pack of chavs.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

Dear Friend,

7) Millions of people have killed in the name of God

Although, to be fair, millions of people have died in the name of God as well. Doesn't it even out?

Yours in Him,
BAB

[Born Again Bob]

Re: 101 REASONS WHY GOD HATES GOTHS!

Dear Friend,

If he exists then he's a GOTH...

Still waiting on an explanation of why you think so.

Yours in Him,
BAB