[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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A "real" goth, huh? That sounds like the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to me.

It sounds like an oxymoron to me.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

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What do I need saving from? Myself?

Yes! Nailed it on the first try. More to the point, you are a human being, even if you don't dress like one, and human beings are sinners. You need to save yourself from your own sin.

If I cannot trust myself, how can I trust something that may or may not exist. It's not that easy.

It's easier than you think. We don't trust you, but we believe in God.

Real v.s. your false stereotype. That's what stereotypes are. False. Unable to be verified, and ultimately wrong.

Are you saying that negroes don't talk in movie theaters? Because I've been in movie theaters with negroes and in the whites-only theaters here in Freehold, and the negroes talk up a storm. But I guess that, according to you, that's not a stereotype because it's true.

Learn something before you bash, for bashing is what you do here. You have been given evidence contrary to your beliefs and u still cling to them. That is sad and pathetic.

You've never read the Bible, yet you seem quite content to tell us how we got it wrong. Well, Pink Snowflake, we did not get it wrong. The Bible tells us that some people, some religions, some races are better than others. It tells us that some behavior (tithing, chastity, hacking limbs off of God's enemies) is acceptible, and that other behavior (homosexuality, science, Gothism) brings the wrath of God down upon entire nations. So maybe you out to learn something before you go around bashing us.

[Red Snowflunky]

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What do I need saving from? Myself? If I cannot trust myself, how can I trust something that may or may not exist. It's not that easy.
Real v.s. your false stereotype. That's what stereotypes are. False. Unable to be verified, and ultimately wrong. Learn something before you bash, for bashing is what you do here. You have been given evidence contrary to your beliefs and u still cling to them. That is sad and pathetic.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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But a real goth minds her own business and doesn't harm anyone. We keep quietly to ourselves in our little groups not harming anyone.

A "real" goth, huh? That sounds like the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to me.

As to me coming to your side, I cannot see that happening. This is much too radical of a group. I don't even believe the same as you....

Maybe not yet, but I have faith that you will open your eyes to the truth eventually.

The truth is that God exists, He wrote a book called the Bible that contains the end-all and be-all of knowledge, and all we have to do is read it and obey it.

That sounds pretty easy, doesn't it? Well, you're right, it's really easy. Doesn't it feel good to be right? You're pretty smart, aren't you? I'm glad you finally figured it all out. All we have to do is read, obey, and click the PayPal button on the bottom of the screen. That's a pretty sweet deal, isn't it? Eternal salvation can be had for a song.

You can do it -- I know you can. I've had my eye on you from the beginning because I knew you are special. God led you here for a reason and the time is now. Oh, won't you give me an amen? Awesome! Just scroll down a little bit, it's right at the bottom of the page. Bless you, sister.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Red Snowflunky]

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But a real goth minds her own business and doesn't harm anyone. We keep quietly to ourselves in our little groups not harming anyone.
As to me coming to your side, I cannot see that happening. This is much too radical of a group. I don't even believe the same as you....

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Well, it's kind of obvious that serial killers are all bad. They all have the killing in common to make them evil.

You are slowly coming around to our side, friend. Would you be willing to go so far as to say that ALL sinners have sin in common to make them evil?

Saying such about serial killers is not judgement. It is calling attention to something we already know.

I agree wholeheartedly, and that was the point of my question.

In the same vein, saying that sinners sin is not judgment.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Red Snowflunky]

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Well, it's kind of obvious that serial killers are all bad. They all have the killing in common to make them evil. Goths mind their own business until provoked. The things on this site are provacative (in the sense that the things on this site make us want to at the very least set you straight).
Saying such about serial killers is not judgement. It is calling attention to something we already know.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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I'm going to turn your moral relativism back on you.

Are you ready...

We [goths] have hardly any truly evil people on our side, but everyone in the serial killer community is evil.

Who are YOU to judge?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[ColickyVampire]

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I agree with you all the way. No one can know what Goths are like unless they are Goths themselves.

They may say "That's like saying you don't know a serial killer unless you are one", but that is totally different. We have hardly any truly evil people on our side, but everyone in the serial killer community is evil.


I hate how they judge us based on the columbine shooters. If they're going to judge like that, I'm going to judge them by the few killers that they have in their society.


It doesn't matter who you kill, it's still murder! Whether it's a Nazi, a Goth, a Muslim, or an African American, it's STILL murder.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Hes clearly not a christian why hasn't he been banned yet?

M't:9:10: And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
M't:9:11: And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
M't:9:12: But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
M't:9:13: But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

[live4christ]

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Hes clearly not a christian why hasn't he been banned yet?

[Red Snowflunky]

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So says you. You don't know all the people on the internet, therefore you cannot possibly know.

[Shinigami]

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I don't have a girlfriend... I AM female and I'm engaged to a MALE and I havn't done anything with anyone named "Asahara". You know, lying is bad, even if it is to strangers.

Masaka! That's a lie as there are no girls on the internet! No RESPECTABLE ones for that matter!

[Red Snowflunky]

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I don't have a girlfriend... I AM female and I'm engaged to a MALE and I havn't done anything with anyone named "Asahara". You know, lying is bad, even if it is to strangers.

[Shinigami]

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How am I supposed to get that name out of you asking about "your girl" and last I checked, he was a man. Shinigami, you don't make any sense.

No. That's not what I said at all! I meant Asahara did the duty with your girlfriend. Ask the girl yourself if you don't believe me!