[Lola Handcock]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Missy Cathrelik, If I was you I would be more worried about them homer preists you got and WHERE their hands are !

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

My question was: "Who else bears the right to interpret the Word but those who directly succeed the Apostles? Can your Church connect itself through the laying of hands to the Twelve? Yes or no?"

Yes.

You hereby advocate, that your Church can connect itself through the laying of hands to the original 12. Therefore, you claim the ministers of your church to be the real successors of the original 12 through the laying of hands. Are we clear on this?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Can your Church connect itself through the laying of hands to the Twelve? Yes or no?

Yes.

http://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/1811cl_mercer.html

http://www.trailofblood.com/The%20Trail%20Of%20Blood.htm

http://www.reformedreader.org/history/christian/ahob1/ahobp.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=5whFAAAAIAAJ&dq=Lectures+on+Baptist+history++By+William+R.+Williams&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=42PCqa79rT&sig=d59lkJGkEudUKwwIdBeSUnixZc0&hl=en&ei=C0X2SsPvLonWtgPxq-G0CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

http://doctrine.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/landmarkers.html

http://www.pbministries.org/History/J.%20R.%20Graves/Old%20Landmarkism/old_landmarkism.htm

http://www.ashcraftpublications.com/

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

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The strange thing is with the atheists' cry of "circular logic"; they never say the same about autobiographies.

Do we find autobiographies in the fiction section at our libraries? No.

Do so-called learned men quote from these tomes with authority? Yes.

Is not the Bible the autobiography of God?

In a way, this could be an analogy for the bible, yes.
However, there is a couple of differences between this particular auto-biography and all others:
1)We gamble our eternal life on its truth.
2)It was written 2000 years ago.

In today’s day and age, autobiographies can hardly be stretched or exaggerated. There’s always people looking with a critical eye at everything you do, and with methods such as the internet and long-distance communication, any falsified information would be rendered invalid almost immediately. Who in their right minds today would attempt to forge their own autobiographical lie? Indeed, any attempt would be revealed immediately and the author made the fool. Whether you acknowledge it or not, every book you read has been scrutinized by someone for lies. The fact of the matter is however, that these stories can be backed up easily. And also, we don’t gamble our eternal life on their truth.

However, the Bible makes a different claim than such simple autobiographies. It claims to be divine. It requires your obedience and connects you with a divine being. Furthermore, it is the compilation of many numerous writers, and compiled by countless more. It may be written by God, but it was certainly not written together as an autobiographical work. I will ask you the same question I posted for Levi:

1) Forget Catholicism for a moment. Imagine its the early fourth century, you're trying to compile Sacred Scripture along with a Council of early Christians. Now tell me this:

"...there is no way to determine using Scripture alone exactly what is included within confines of Scripture. All that can be determined through Sola Scriptura is that the Bible claims to be the Word of God, and therefore it must be so. However, this essay is of the same substance as the Bible, ground up trees and ink, and makes the same claim, “This is the Word of God”. How then, can writings such as this essay be infallibly excluded from the canon of Scripture unless there is an “inspired” table of contents?"

Demonstrate how you would conclude that this essay of mine is not the Word of God, then tell me what gave you such an authority to do so?

I guess the sinner is too afraid to answer the question. Let's see his logic.

The Bible cannot be the only true word of God because it is only validated by the Bible, and thus it is circular logic.

Now, he believes the Catholic Church is in fact the ultimate authority, even so far as having said the Bible is only sacred because the Church says it is. Now, why does he say the Church is the supreme authority? Because the church tells him that they are, and thus it's circular logic

This is my logic:

Bible->Church->Apostles->Jesus->God

There is no circle, I merely take what is defined as Scripture by the Church, connect it through Apostolic Succession to the original Twelve, then of course to Christ and then the Father.

It's an admission that you were writing the exact same thing for the 100th time and taking up too much of our bandwidth.

Now, can I ask you something? Why is the Catholic Church the only true representative of God on earth?

Who else bears the right to interpret the Word but those who directly succeed the Apostles? Can your Church connect itself through the laying of hands to the Twelve? Yes or no?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Translation = I need time to ask my priest for some good lies.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

The answers to these questions will be long and, God forbid, may take up too much of your "bandwidth".

However, I will proceed anyway. But know that if my next post is deleted or altered in any way from it's original, that Landover thereby concedes that it cannot face truth when confronted with it.

Now, these questions require detailed answers, but I hope to have them posted by later this evening.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

The strange thing is with the atheists' cry of "circular logic"; they never say the same about autobiographies.

Do we find autobiographies in the fiction section at our libraries? No.

Do so-called learned men quote from these tomes with authority? Yes.

Is not the Bible the autobiography of God?

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

I guess the sinner is too afraid to answer the question. Let's see his logic.

The Bible cannot be the only true word of God because it is only validated by the Bible, and thus it is circular logic.

Now, he believes the Catholic Church is in fact the ultimate authority, even so far as having said the Bible is only sacred because the Church says it is. Now, why does he say the Church is the supreme authority? Because the church tells him that they are, and thus it's circular logic

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

It's an admission that you were writing the exact same thing for the 100th time and taking up too much of our bandwidth.

Now, can I ask you something? Why is the Catholic Church the only true representative of God on earth?

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

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Very well. I will accept this as an admission of defeat on the part of Landover.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

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[Nobar King]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

There is some inappropriate language in some of the above posts. Please try to keep it civil, people. This is a family forum.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

God makes no compromise and takes no prisoners.

(Actually, he did compromise of Sodom and Gomorrah but the result was the same as if He hadn't.)

[New_Man]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

I do admire the uncompromising stance on this board.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

In your "extensive studies" you must have missed the fact that Greek was the universal language of the Mediterranean.
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Holy cow you have earned your medal with that statement! Mark was in Rome, but he wrote his Gospel in Greek?

Why did all the other writers of that era in Rome write in Latin?

We have this wonderful message to get out to the Roman people! I know, let's write it in Greek!

Levi I have just got to hand it to you, I have never spoke with anyone more stupid across this forum. May I quote you again?

"It would be impossible to follow the entire Bible as it was being written at the time." -Levi Jones, Biblical Imbecile

Hey, do you remember what you said a while back too?

"Early Christians could have just gone and seen the Apostles or spoken to someone who just did" -Levi Jones, Biblical Imbecile

For a landover you sure do advocate the idea of Sacred Tradition rather well!

Alright twat. That's twice you have gone ad hominem on me. I ignored it the first time.

Speaking directly to the Apostles, people who did speak to them and/or having an early Gospel would be equally fine.

It's when you attempt to relate your argument through 1500 years of generations and then have the stones to attempt to relate it back to the pope is when you get slapped around like the sass mouthed bitch you are.

Indeed, as the Bible was not compiled until several hundred years after Christ, early Christians would have nothing else to turn to than the spoken Word of their teachers.

Like the letters of Paul who warns them to not go beyond what is written?

They couldn't pop open their KJV and whip out the first verse they like. If they had question, they had to go to the Apostles or their successors.

The Apostles direct successors who were trained by the Apostles themselves. Not some people who dress up like clowns in rome who claim to be the direct successors, because a few hundred years later they falsified some writings that just happen to say they were right all along.

1) Forget Catholicism for a moment. Imagine its the early fourth century, you're trying to compile Sacred Scripture along with a Council of early Christians. Now tell me this:

And other things that never happened. No one knows the exact origins of the modern New Testament. The only logical conclusion was that the LORD himself inspired it. It certainly came from the east, though...

2) If the successors of the Apostles are not among the Priests of the Catholic Church, there where might they be?

They are found in the Bible, you mongloid. Are you really this stupid? Is anyone?