[James Peter]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Christians will end up where ?
And the catlick butt pirates will be where ?

Get serious Jesus does not love homer catliks its off to hell for ya.

Haha, Protestants are not Christians. You are all children of the devil, and yes, you will be going to hell along with the five billion other non-Catholics, and a large percentage of fallen Catholics who die with unconfessed mortal sins! GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST!

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Yet, you sadly offer no evidence. Zero. I would have right to declare your argument crushed underfoot right here, right now. As you have nothing to offer but your own false presumptions. Do not waste my time.

My own presumptions? Only the ones backed up by the greatest thinkers of the Renaissance. The first people to break free from the catlick imposed Dark Ages.

Nowhere does the Bible claim that it is the only Word of God. It is an unbiblical creation of Martin Luther.

You claim this, yet you still can't find any credibility for the authority of your Little Adolph Benedict. There is none. You can't even defend that point without launching into a non sequitur tirade on Luther or sola scriptura.

You can't defend the fact that your leaders insist on traditions that fly in the face of Scripture!

We don't need anymore kicking and screaming rants from you. You have done nothing but pout and whine throughout this entire thing.

Just answer the question, papist scum.

When the papists start ordaining female and homosexual priests, will you still follow them?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

TIA

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Amen
Brother Levi ,You sir are an inspiration to all!


Praise Jesus for he is the LIGHT in my life.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

I assume nothing. It is an established fact.

Yet, you sadly offer no evidence. Zero. I would have right to declare your argument crushed underfoot right here, right now. As you have nothing to offer but your own false presumptions. Do not waste my time.

Nowhere does the Bible claim that it is the only Word of God. It is an unbiblical creation of Martin Luther.

You know people living from the time of Christ? You are honestly asserting that my LORD would allow his inerrant Word to man to be flawed? That's your excuse

I define the "innerant Word" to include the teachings of the Church. When it is all put together, it is inerrant. But just as you cannot have a religion based solely off the Gospel of John, you cannot have a "true Christian" religion without the teachings of the Church. Otherwise, you deny half of God's word.

If you continue to fail to offer any evidence whatsoever, yet you still rise up here to "debate" you are simply making a fool of yourself.

What is your point? It was written down in another book of the Bible. A few pages back, you were arguing that we don't follow all the Bible i.e. the deuterocanon. Now you think we should be limited to the Gospels? What kind of self contradictory whack job are you?

Did you actually read my whole post?

The point, friend, is that not one of these writers saw that they must include everything saying of Christ in their writings. And the reason is that these teachings were primarily passed on by ORAL. SPOKEN. WORD.

The Bible does not teach sola scriptura. You have yet to even try to defend it. Because you know that it is not taught by scripture. And the sooner you admit that, the sooner we can move on

This is the most idiotic point you have brought up yet. Luke learned the saying directly from one of the Apostles. Early Christians could have just gone and seen the Apostles or spoken to someone who just did.

I would just like to quote you again because you support so beautifully the idea of Sacred Tradition

"Early Christians could have just gone and seen the Apostles or spoken to someone who just did" -Levi Jones, Biblical Imbecile.

That's exactly what the early Christians would have done. Sought out the spoken word of those entrusted with His Word, such as the Apostles or their early successors. They would not have picked up their KJVs and tried to personally interpret scripture. Neither would the apostles or their early successors. It was all Oral Tradition.

Besides, who is God going to speak to in this day and age? Little Adolph Benedict on his gilded throne? Last time he spoke through a simple carpenter.

God's commandments are also in the Doctrines and Dogmas of the Catholic Church.

Acts 15:28 - Apostles speak with the voice of the Holy Spirit
1 Timothy 3:15 - Church is called the "pillar and foundation of truth"

It clearly says to not be blown by the wind of doctrine lest they become fooled by devious men (like the pope.) It's clearly says to stick with what they had been taught. I see your reading comprehension skills are as poor as your debating skills.

Stick with what they had been taught????

Do you need me to read it to you?

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be nomore children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; (Ephesians 4:11-14)

This clearly says that Jesus "GAVE" us "apostles... prophets... teachers" etc. "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ"... "[SO] THAT we will no longer be children, tossed to and fro" and etc.

Note: He did not give us any written Word, but Apostles and teachers to SPEAK the Word to us. That is the single meaning behind this verse.

I have simply used the quote itself to refute your pathetic argument.

The sooner you admit this, the sooner we can move on.

***Off-Topic attempts to change the subject, deleted ***

As soon as you come up with some REAL defense of Sola Scriptura, then we'll talk. Don't post until then please.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Brother Levi.

Is Faith what these sinners are missing ?

Naturally, Sister Lola. They just need faith in the Holy KJV1611. Then, and only then, can the Holy Spirit can truly enter them and wash them clean as the white white snow. Praise Jesus!

After that, they must immediately get into a congregation of fellow True Christians™ and set up a tithing plan as our Lord commands us to.

You aren't going to deny Jesus his cut, Ms. Lola.

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Brother Levi.

Is Faith what these sinners are missing ?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

I won't pretend like I know anything about the bible, but I must say this post of Levi really confuses me. Why would things be left out of a book you all claim to live word by word? What if important things were left out? Would that not make your christianity "faulty" and wanting!?

Do you really need to know every single thing our LORD did? Of course not!
Do we need to know every time our LORD went to the privy room? Maybe they should have written down his conversations about the weather with his Apostles.


Besides, John the Greek, wrote his Gospel nearly a century after our LORD ascended to heaven. While it has the most beautiful prose of all the Gospels, it too, was not a firsthand account. Though, there can be no doubt it is Holy inspired truth!

[Lola Handcock]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Hey they brother! Fellow Catholic here, I have gone through the same attempts at arguing with these people as you have, it's always great to see another REAL Christian in here. But I was a bit disturbed by this comment to say the least.

Nobody in Landover will end up in Purgatory! The teaching of our Church is quite clear - only Catholics can be saved, and everyone in Purgatory will eventually get out. All non-Catholics, including Protestant so-called Christians (they are not really Christian) are going straight to hell. Of course, I will be laughing as God All-Mighty tortures those heathens forever

Christians will end up where ?
And the catlick butt pirates will be where ?

Get serious Jesus does not love homer catliks its off to hell for ya.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Hey they brother! Fellow Catholic here, I have gone through the same attempts at arguing with these people as you have,

You are just another catlick greasestain statistic for Jesus like your contemporary.

At least, you have a few redeeming qualities, I will reluctantly concede.

[James Peter]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Haha, will I have a laugh when you landovers die and end up in Purgatory and have no idea what's going on!!!

Hey they brother! Fellow Catholic here, I have gone through the same attempts at arguing with these people as you have, it's always great to see another REAL Christian in here. But I was a bit disturbed by this comment to say the least.

Nobody in Landover will end up in Purgatory! The teaching of our Church is quite clear - only Catholics can be saved, and everyone in Purgatory will eventually get out. All non-Catholics, including Protestant so-called Christians (they are not really Christian) are going straight to hell. Of course, I will be laughing as God All-Mighty tortures those heathens forever

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

The Bible does not make this claim. You assume it.

I assume nothing. It is an established fact. Your "church" does things that directly contradict the Word and asserts its primacy over the Bible. Your leaders even refuse to accept prima scriptura. That's how jealously they still cling to their power over their members.

That's not a Church, friend. That is a cult.

Wouldn't it be terrible if he learned something after writing Acts as well? Of course, how would you know? You don't have anything but the Bible.

You know people living from the time of Christ? You are honestly asserting that my LORD would allow his inerrant Word to man to be flawed? That's your excuse

This should show you that this was a well known saying of Christ. Yet, it was not included in any of the Gospels.... hmm...

What is your point? It was written down in another book of the Bible.

A few pages back, you were arguing that we don't follow all the Bible i.e. the deuterocanon. Now you think we should be limited to the Gospels? What kind of self contradictory whack job are you?

The passage is worded as a reminder, "...and keep in mind the words of the Lord Jesus who himself said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Any early Christian would have already known this saying of Christ. But how could they if they were practicing Sola Scriptura?

This is the most idiotic point you have brought up yet. Luke learned the saying directly from one of the Apostles. Early Christians could have just gone and seen the Apostles or spoken to someone who just did.

Besides, who is God going to speak to in this day and age? Little Adolph Benedict on his gilded throne? Last time he spoke through a simple carpenter.

This verse clearly says that Jesus gave "apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" for the purpose of perfecting of the saints, for the work of ministry and for edifying the body of Christ. It does not say that he provided them with a Bible or a written Word. In fact, it would seem to say that these teachers alone are enough keep us from false doctrines and evil teachings, does it not?

It clearly says to not be blown by the wind of doctrine lest they become fooled by devious men (like the pope.) It's clearly says to stick with what they had been taught. I see your reading comprehension skills are as poor as your debating skills.

This is true, that with just the Bible alone, Christians are at a loss of the full teachings of Christ. However, through the unbroken succession of the Priesthood,

There was nothing that even was close to a unified Church until the romans talked the Franks into killing off the Arians and other rival Christian factions. There was not even an idea of making rome the headquarters of the Church until the lecherous murderer Damasus came up with the idea.

The blood of millions is on hands of the cult you have the audacity to argue in favor of on a Christian forum.

the Catholic Church bears ALL teachings of Christ; those absolutely necessary for salvation, such as Baptism, and those that are simply gonna happen to you anyway, like purgatory.

And many that directly contradict Scripture. I can't believe you can sit there and argue in favor of the word of man overriding Biblical authority. Will you stick with the catlick church when it decides to start ordaining woman and homosexuals?

Haha, will I have a laugh when you landovers die and end up in Purgatory and have no idea what's going on!!!

Purgatory, another catlick invention 1000+ years after Christ.

I haven't seen a catlick take a beating like this since the notre dame football team last season.

Another flawless victory for Jesus.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Of course, not every word or deed was written. Only the parts necessary for Salvation®.

The Bible does not make this claim. You assume it.

Even if it did, I return to the paradox of my little piece of paper, which makes the same claim.

Luke fully admits his writings are not first hand accounts. There may have been information he didn't know at the time of writing Luke that he learned later by the time of Acts.

Luke 1:1-3
Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

Wouldn't it be terrible if he learned something after writing Acts as well? Of course, how would you know? You don't have anything but the Bible.

This should show you that this was a well known saying of Christ. Yet, it was not included in any of the Gospels.... hmm...

The passage is worded as a reminder, "...and keep in mind the words of the Lord Jesus who himself said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Any early Christian would have already known this saying of Christ. But how could they if they were practicing Sola Scriptura?

Really?

Ephesians 4:11-14

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Your idiocy always brightens my day

This verse clearly says that Jesus gave "apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" for the purpose of perfecting of the saints, for the work of ministry and for edifying the body of Christ. It does not say that he provided them with a Bible or a written Word. In fact, it would seem to say that these teachers alone are enough keep us from false doctrines and evil teachings, does it not?
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I won't pretend like I know anything about the bible, but I must say this post of Levi really confuses me. Why would things be left out of a book you all claim to live word by word? What if important things were left out? Would that not make your christianity "faulty" and wanting!?

This is true, that with just the Bible alone, Christians are at a loss of the full teachings of Christ. However, through the unbroken succession of the Priesthood, the Catholic Church bears ALL teachings of Christ; those absolutely necessary for salvation, such as Baptism, and those that are simply gonna happen to you anyway, like purgatory.

Haha, will I have a laugh when you landovers die and end up in Purgatory and have no idea what's going on!!!

[crazychick]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Of course, not every word or deed was written. Only the parts necessary for Salvation®.

I won't pretend like I know anything about the bible, but I must say this post of Levi really confuses me. Why would things be left out of a book you all claim to live word by word? What if important things were left out? Would that not make your christianity "faulty" and wanting!?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

You will have to forgive the typo, but surely you knew of which verse I spoke?

John 21:25 There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.

This verse clearly shows that not everything Jesus did was recorded in Scripture. Everything Jesus spoke was the Word of GOD, bc Jesus himself was God and Man. This verse alone is sufficient to say that not all of God's Word were recorded on pen and paper.

Of course, not every word or deed was written. Only the parts necessary for Salvation®.

Well of course not. This verse cements the fact that not everything Jesus said was recorded in the Gospels. This book was written as you said by the author of Luke, why did the author fail to include saying of Jesus in the Gospel? And this leads to the question, what else may have been left out?

Luke fully admits his writings are not first hand accounts. There may have been information he didn't know at the time of writing Luke that he learned later by the time of Acts.


Luke 1:1-3
Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

As John clearly stated, it would be impossible to write down every word that came forth from Christ. And if every word Jesus said was the Word of God, then clearly the entire Word of God cannot be confined to a single book. The very idea of the Bible being the only Word of God is unbiblical.

Now, how about some verses that support your claim about it being the only Word? I'll give you a hint: They don't exist

Really?

Ephesians 4:11-14

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;


Your cult has fallen away from the divinely inspired Word of God, therefore its authority has been negated for centuries. It's okay, though. We will accept you back into the Body of Christ as a True Christian™.

All you have to do is give up your mary and aint worship, baby sprinkling, dead bloody Jesus' on the cross and daddy fetish with the priests.

[Sacred Heart]

Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God?

Have you even bothered to read the Bible?


John 12:23-25
And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

You will have to forgive the typo, but surely you knew of which verse I spoke?

John 21:25 There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.

This verse clearly shows that not everything Jesus did was recorded in Scripture. Everything Jesus spoke was the Word of GOD, bc Jesus himself was God and Man. This verse alone is sufficient to say that not all of God's Word were recorded on pen and paper.

I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

I wasn't aware catlicks don't believe Acts to be canonical. Perhaps you papists don't believe that Saul's Damascus Road experience was real?

The author of Acts is most likely Luke also the author of one of the Gospels. Even if he isn't, the author is taking first hand accounts of people who knew my Lord.

The author of Acts is definitely not 4th century roman catlicks trying to justify their own heresies while attempting to stomp out all other interpretations.

Well of course not. This verse cements the fact that not everything Jesus said was recorded in the Gospels. This book was written as you said by the author of Luke, why did the author fail to include saying of Jesus in the Gospel? And this leads to the question, what else may have been left out? As John clearly stated, it would be impossible to write down every word that came forth from Christ. And if every word Jesus said was the Word of God, then clearly the entire Word of God cannot be confined to a single book. The very idea of the Bible being the only Word of God is unbiblical.

Now, how about some verses that support your claim about it being the only Word? I'll give you a hint: They don't exist