[Alexia]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

you're not going to ever get through to them my dear. As long as we are not one of them, we shall forever be called devil worshippers and that we have turned our backs on Jesus. You can't win. OH I recognise your signature.. is it Epica?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

No in fact i was talking about dat little i-was-rescued-from-wicca poser.
And i repeat once again, I DONT F****** HATE GOD NOR JESUS!!!!!gosh!!! How much times do i have to tell you...? dang...And btw im not mexican...

My dear foul-mouthed, vulgar little harlot -

I never called you Mexican.

Also, if you do not LOVE Jesus, you by default HATE Jesus.

You, of course, previously declared that you HATE Christians and wish we would all die of a horrible plague, and that our children would die horribly as well. Sounds like hating Jesus to me.

[vAmPiRiAgOtHiKa (On Moderation)]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

you're not going to ever get through to them my dear. As long as we are not one of them, we shall forever be called devil worshippers and that we have turned our backs on Jesus. You can't win. OH I recognise your signature.. is it Epica?

Yep it is Cry for the moon by Epica

[vAmPiRiAgOtHiKa (On Moderation)]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

My dear foul-mouthed, vulgar little harlot -

I never called you Mexican.

Also, if you do not LOVE Jesus, you by default HATE Jesus.

You, of course, previously declared that you HATE Christians and wish we would all die of a horrible plague, and that our children would die horribly as well. Sounds like hating Jesus to me.

You dont have to love someone to stop hating him. Thats stupid. That person would be whatever to me. Tell me, if you see sum1 you have never saw before on the street, you dont love that person, but you dont hate him/her either...

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

You dont have to love someone to stop hating him. Thats stupid. That person would be whatever to me. Tell me, if you see sum1 you have never saw before on the street, you dont love that person, but you dont hate him/her either...

Jesus isn't an ordinary person, He is God, so your example doesn't apply to him.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

You dont have to love someone to stop hating him. Thats stupid. That person would be whatever to me. Tell me, if you see sum1 you have never saw before on the street, you dont love that person, but you dont hate him/her either...

I love every Saved person I see on the streets of Freehold.

In other places, I also love every Saved person I see on the streets.

I pity the others and hope that one day they will understand Jesus' offer of unconditional* love!

*Unconditional love offer is subject to the following conditions: Recipient of Jesus' Unconditional Love must agree to love, praise, worship, and serve Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit, along with their heirs and assigns, for all eternity. Breach of contract will result in Recipient's being cast into the Lake of Fire for infinite and eternal torture along with billions of the vile unSaved.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

No need to be "rescued" from Wicca. One must be a TRUE Wiccan to belong anyway. Were you born with a Wiccan Soul? I was, That was my calling. Wicca is not something to convert to, You either are or you aren't.

As a pagan, I'll offer my opinion here.

A true wiccan?

Umm....you do know that wicca has only been around 50-ish years or so, right? It is the Pagan roots of wicca that are ancient.

I agree that not everyone is going to be inclined to be Pagan, or Wiccan. But it sounds a little odd that you describe it as you do....a wiccan soul? Such a soul, then, would have to be less than 50 years in age?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

But it sounds a little odd that you describe it as you do....a wiccan soul? Such a soul, then, would have to be less than 50 years in age?

[Hairy Homer]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

As a pagan, I'll offer my opinion here.

A true wiccan?

Umm....you do know that wicca has only been around 50-ish years or so, right? It is the Pagan roots of wicca that are ancient.

I agree that not everyone is going to be inclined to be Pagan, or Wiccan. But it sounds a little odd that you describe it as you do....a wiccan soul? Such a soul, then, would have to be less than 50 years in age?

Not at all, not at all, Rachael. It simply means that they hadn't discovered the truth until Gardener (or whoever) revealed it.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

Not at all, not at all, Rachael. It simply means that they hadn't discovered the truth until Gardener (or whoever) revealed it.

Ahh, so all those True Wiccan Souls from millenia past had no idea they were True Wiccans until the late 1950s? Wow.

That's kinda pathetic, huh?

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

Not at all, not at all, Rachael. It simply means that they hadn't discovered the truth until Gardener (or whoever) revealed it.

Teehee!

Say, whatever happened to Gardener anyway? I assume he's dead? How did he die?

Ahh, so all those True Wiccan Souls from millenia past had no idea they were True Wiccans until the late 1950s? Wow.

I guess not.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

Teehee!

Say, whatever happened to Gardener anyway? I assume he's dead? How did he die?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner

Gerald Brosseau Gardner (June 13, 1884 - February 12, 1964) was an English civil servant, amateur anthropologist, writer, and occultist who published some of the definitive texts for modern Wicca, which he was instrumental in founding.

In 1964, after suffering a heart attack, Gardner died at sea on a ship returning from Lebanon. He was buried on the shore of Tunisia.

But none other than Lord RainEagle, who is the Wicca "expert" on AllExperts.com" questions whether Gardener started the religion:

The Religion itself, has it's origins in the Dawn of Time. Man became curious about the world He lived in, and began to attempt to understand it. The origin of the word Wicca is Celtic in nature. The word Wiccae,(this is sometimes hotly contested too) comes from the Celtic language, and means to "...bend or twist" it also, as is argued, means Wise One. Closely holding to the latter derrivative; in the celtic period of Ancient England, people lived in small villiages. There was always (as is true for most societies) usually one, or two people who were the medicine people. Most often than not this was a woman who knew of the folk remedies, and used them to treat various illnesses. They also acted as midwives, helping to deliver babies, curing coughs and colds, various other illness as well. They were very respected members of thier smaller societies. Every villiage had one. (ergo the ideology of the "old crone" in her cottage in the woods being labled a Witch.) On the advent of Christianity, and largely because of this, these woman, (and some men too), began to become feared (power over life and death, etc.) and because of what some believe to be Christian propoganda, these "Wise Ones" began to be feared, and even blamed for plagues, stillborn babies, and pretty much anything negative that happened. The long time practice of honouring the earth in using what the "Great Mother" offered us in way of ensuring good harvest and general wellbeing, was cast aside in order to make way for Christianity, and the beliefes that God would make it all happen. Altho the basis of the Religion goes back much farther than that, this is where Wicca began.
There has been a revival of sorts, in that through Gerald Gardener, comes the birth of what is thought as Modern Day Wicca (Gardener's works can be found by doing a little digging).

This has been a special service from the forum researcher. I accept that you are a busy woman -- especially with all the posting you do here -- and can't afford to waste time Googling things yourself.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

Ahh, so all those True Wiccan Souls from millenia past had no idea they were True Wiccans until the late 1950s? Wow.

That's kinda pathetic, huh?

Hmmmm... I'm not sure. I posted as a wiccan's advocate, but am not an expert on it.

But are we not on dangerous ground here? Did the True Christians™ from Millienia past know that they were True Christians™?

Did they know that they were protestants or Baptists?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

I agree. Another one falls.Another one falls onto ignorance.whats this world coming to?i have the answer:

But how can one with a "true wicker soul" ever fall into ignorance? Or do you just follow a brand of nonsensical circular logic, whereby anyone who rejects wickedanism was never a true wicker in the first place? And where is free will in all this?

you're not going to ever get through to them my dear. As long as we are not one of them, we shall forever be called devil worshippers and that we have turned our backs on Jesus. You can't win.

Of course you can win! Just repent of your sins, embrace Jesus, and no-one will ever call you a devil-worshipper ever again!

Hmmmm... I'm not sure. I posted as a wiccan's advocate, but am not an expert on it.

But are we not on dangerous ground here? Did the True Christians™ from Millienia past know that they were True Christians™?

Did they know that they were protestants or Baptists?

Unless they consciously made the decision to be Born Again in Christ and follow His commandments with all their hearts and all their souls, they were neither True Christians™ or Baptists, but merely unsaved trash.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Rescued from Wicca

Hmmmm... I'm not sure. I posted as a wiccan's advocate, but am not an expert on it.

But are we not on dangerous ground here? Did the True Christians™ from Millienia past know that they were True Christians™?

Did they know that they were protestants or Baptists?

Wiccans follow basic rules and worship, right?

Well, if Wicca was invented in the 1950s, then nobody could have known what the basic rules were, or how to worship.

Meanwhile, there were no True Christians before about 2000 years ago, since Jesus hadn't come yet. But after that, True Christians are those who followed God's Word, the Bible. All of it.

Whether they called themselves "True Christians" or "Catholic-haters" or whatever, they were still True Christians.