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  • Reykjavik
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Miss April View Post
    Atheist Troll Why are you here? If you want Proof Our Great beliefs are True Then Read the King James Bible Its the only Truth
    Where did you get the idea that I was an atheist?

    If you had read the first post, you would realize that that is not the case.

    I have noticed that most people are completely convinced that they are right, and that their beliefs are true, but I have yet to meet anyone that can actually prove it.

    Christians often say to act on faith, but that is by definition saying that they don't know with certainty that they are right. Faith implies that there isn't sufficient evidence to back your belief up, but you believe it anyway.

    Everyone acts on faith everyday, just by believing in anything beyond their own existence. But what you seem to want is beyond faith, you seem to want people to believe the opposite of what the evidence they find tells them.

    Not only that, but I don't have a problem with people believing in such ridiculous things. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster as far as I am concerned, just as long as you don't start engaging in acts of piracy.
    Actions are more important than beliefs, in my opinion.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by agnostic calf View Post
    Sir, I did not say I needed proof..but I do need inspiration, thank you
    What's wrong with the Holy KJV Bible? That's the most inspiring book in the history of the earth! Isn't it translated into abo?

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  • agnostic calf
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Patriarch Jon View Post
    It isn't proof that you seek, it is faith. Either you have it or you don't. rather than looking for worldly 'proofs', pray for inspiration so that you find faith within yourself and that you believe. Read your KJV1611 scriptures and if the lord looks favorably on you you may receive inspiration.

    We will all pray for you.
    Sir, I did not say I needed proof..but I do need inspiration, thank you

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  • Patriarch Jon
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    It isn't proof that you seek, it is faith. Either you have it or you don't. rather than looking for worldly 'proofs', pray for inspiration so that you find faith within yourself and that you believe. Read your KJV1611 scriptures and if the lord looks favorably on you you may receive inspiration.

    We will all pray for you.

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  • agnostic calf
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Thank you Sir, But I have read the Bible. What I cannot correlate is its meaning to todays society

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  • Bryan Tamariki
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Im am here and not an athiest..just looking for answers
    THE Answer is to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour. If you have a personal relationship with Jesus you will no longer be agnostic. You will KNOW that God is Real and he loves you .

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  • agnostic calf
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Miss April View Post
    I see that your here Fool But Agnostic i talking to Reykjavik i think he is a athiest idiot that needs the Great Lord Jesus very soon But what kind of answers are you looking for? I hope its about Jesus maybe i can help Feel free to ask me anything
    Yes Miss April, I have many questions, but I will not bombard you with them all in a short time...I'd rather you think about your response.
    I am not a 'troll'..just a man searching for answers and I will not argue..just disguss. I am not beligerent. I do find some hyprocacy here that maybe you can clear up..Its like this..I believe in free thinking as agnostics do but we do not count out the fact there may be a God.
    This is what i'm looking for. I also believe I can profit from a wise man, (not monetarily) but we all need to learn. And finally, a wise man is not unquestionable

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  • Miss April
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by agnostic alf View Post
    Im am here and not an athiest..just looking for answers..not insults
    I see that your here Fool But Agnostic i talking to Reykjavik i think he is a athiest idiot that needs the Great Lord Jesus very soon But what kind of answers are you looking for? I hope its about Jesus maybe i can help Feel free to ask me anything

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  • agnostic calf
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    Im am here and not an athiest..just looking for answers..not insults

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  • Miss April
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Atheist Troll Why are you here? If you want Proof Our Great beliefs are True Then Read the King James Bible Its the only Truth

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  • Reykjavik
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    If you can't understand Brother BJ's excellent Christian logic, then perhaps THIS Chick Tract will help open your heart to Jesus.
    How is this relevant? it is a nice story of why you think every other 'Bible' is wrong. You did not provide any evidence saying that yours was right. In fact, you pointed out very clearly that false holy texts are very common, and many are held as legitimate by large groups of people, and that doesn't help your case any.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Reykjavik View Post
    True, I could constantly demand more proof, but I am not asking for much, just something beyond the circular logic of the Bible saying that God wrote the bible, therefore because God wrote the Bible it is true. If you can't see the problem with that logic, I feel no sympathy for you if you are easily fooled into believing some sort of foolish nonsense.
    If you can't understand Brother BJ's excellent Christian logic, then perhaps THIS Chick Tract will help open your heart to Jesus.

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  • Bobby-Joe
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Reykjavik View Post
    True, I could constantly demand more proof, but I am not asking for much, just something beyond the circular logic of the Bible saying that God wrote the bible, therefore because God wrote the Bible it is true. If you can't see the problem with that logic, I feel no sympathy for you if you are easily fooled into believing some sort of foolish nonsense.
    Friend,
    God is described as perfect.

    The Bible is the perfect source of all knowledge and morality.

    God wrote The Bible

    Therefor God exists.
    There is nothing circular in that reasoning.

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  • Reykjavik
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
    You really hate God, don't you.

    His word, on paper is not good enough for you. I would wager, if I continue to coddle you and provide more proof, that it would be never enough. You would continually say "But how do I know if that is true?".

    Let me put it this way. How do I know you exist? I see your words on my computer monitor. How do I know you made them? How do I know you are not just some computer program written by an annoying 13 year old obsessed gamer?
    True, I could constantly demand more proof, but I am not asking for much, just something beyond the circular logic of the Bible saying that God wrote the bible, therefore because God wrote the Bible it is true. If you can't see the problem with that logic, I feel no sympathy for you if you are easily fooled into believing some sort of foolish nonsense.

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  • James Hutchins
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    Re: Can you prove that your beliefs are true?

    Originally posted by Reykjavik View Post
    do you have any documentation of him saying so, other than the Bible?
    You really hate God, don't you.

    His word, on paper is not good enough for you. I would wager, if I continue to coddle you and provide more proof, that it would be never enough. You would continually say "But how do I know if that is true?".

    Let me put it this way. How do I know you exist? I see your words on my computer monitor. How do I know you made them? How do I know you are not just some computer program written by an annoying 13 year old obsessed gamer?

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