[David Goldman]

Re: The Holy Noodle

Can't be any fun if he already knew he was tossing me in there,in fact if he is Omnipercipient then as far as he is concerned I am already BBQ Pasta. If that is the case why should I bother to be anything other then what I am? is there even the remotest possibility that I could be anything else even if I thought I wanted to be?

That's between you and God. You can demand all the justifications you wish from Him when you are grovelling before Him at your final judgment.

Romans 14

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: The Holy Noodle

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

What is there to confess, if he knows it all?

[Levi Jones]

Re: The Holy Noodle

What is there to confess, if he knows it all?

That free will has been revoked during the Rapture. You will bow at that time.

You have already said what you "feel" the creator would believe if your pathetic "proofs" were true.

Argument dismantled.

Try harder next time.

[Levi Jones]

Re: The Holy Noodle

That free will has been revoked during the Rapture. You will bow at that time.

You have already said what you "feel" the creator would believe if your pathetic "proofs" were true.

Argument dismantled.

Try harder next time.

I meant to say argument dismantled by Dr. Goldman.

If anyone can fix and delete please? Sorry, I didn't credit the source.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: The Holy Noodle

I meant to say argument dismantled by Dr. Goldman.

If anyone can fix and delete please? Sorry, I didn't credit the source.

He has not dismantled the fact that the version of the creation that I have given is more fun then the one you lot believe, therefore is more credible then you mumbo jumbo...

God has a sense of humour, just look around you...
How would the likes of Bush (Snr & Jnr) and Reagan have ever been elected otherwise, and just look at the Duck billed platypus, the creature is a dead give away that the creator was either having a laugh, drunk or both.
The God described in your book has no sense of humour so therfore must be false.

[Talitha]

Re: The Holy Noodle

The God described in your book has no sense of humour so therfore must be false.

Of course HE has a sense of humor. Look how ugly he made Ornamentals and Messicans.






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[sr korgul]

Re: The Holy Noodle

Now let us use logic not science.

PROPOSTION 1. The universe exhibits too much structure to have evolved by chance.
CONCLUSION 1. There was a creator.
PROPOSTION 2. All things are subject to the passage of time.
CONCLUSION 2. The processes of the universe were in action over the time period in which it was created.
PROPOSTION 3. Nothing, not even a God, can know the exact outcome of a situation in the universe, Moreover, the uncertainty increases with the time elapsed since the parameters of the situation were known.
CONCLUSION 3. If the creator wished to make the universe precisely as he pleased, then he would need to do it rapidly.
PROPOSTION 4. Any being that would create a universe for his own pleasure is an egotistical maniac.
CONCLUSION 4. The creator was an egotistical maniac.
CONCLUSION 5. Since an egotistical maniac. Would want things done his way, he must have, by C3, made the universe extremely rapidly; in fact as rapidly as possible.
PROPOSTION 5. If a creator could affect more points of space simultaneously, then he could create the structure in the universe more rapidly.
CONCLUSION 6. A creator with more appendages than another could have created the universe more rapidly.
CONCLUSION 7. Since by C5, the creator made the universe as rapidly as possible, he has as many appendages as possible.
PROPOSTION 6. The universe is discrete.
CONCLUSION 8. There is a minimal thickness to the appendages of the creator.
CONCLUSION 9. A creator with thinner appendages can have more of them.
CONCLUSION 10. By C7 and C9, the creator had as many appendages as possible, all of minimal thickness.
CONCLUSION 11. The creator was a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Proof of Proposition 3

PROPOSTION 7. The creator made us for his pleasure.
PROPOSTION 8. There is no pleasure to be drawn from us if we do not have free will.
CONCLUSION 12. We have free will
PROPOSTION 9. If the universe was premeditated, then we would not have free will.
CONCLUSION 13. The universe is not premeditated.
PROPOSTION 10. The creator set up the initial conditions of the universe.
CONCLUSION 14. By C13, there is uncertainty in the unfolding of the universe.
CONCLUSION 15. As uncertainty on top of uncertainty brings even more uncertainty, as time passes, the level of uncertainty increses.
CONCLUSION 16. Proposition 3 is true.

I hope that mr Goldman forgives me if I continue arguing after he completly demolished the argouments of the blind noodle worshipper, but being italian, andd thus knowing the damage that eating spaghetti has done to our people, I feel the urge to fight against that abomination.

First of all the Bible clearly states that human logic is useless

1 Corinthians 3:20



20And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain

Anyway, I bet a Spghetti worshipper would be fool enough to not belive the bible, so let me show me some facts that support this truth:

A greek homer named Parmenides and his follower Zeno (a bold men killed by god by landing a tartoise in his head) showed incontrovertibly that the existence of the universe was not consistent with secular logic. Since sodomy sucked them away every bit of wisdom, anyway, their conclusion were not "secular logic is useless" but "the world do not exist, present people included", so "philosopher" continued using "logic" for thousand years.

The basis for their logic is the principle of contradiction. Using the logic based on this principle, each philosopher come to different conclusions wich was... well, in contradiction whit conclusions of the other. So secular logic is not consistent whit its own foundation.
Vice Versa, the Bible has just one truth. So the Bible, who deny the usefulness of logic, is more consistent with logic than logic itself.

Last, your logic is wrong even by secular standard.
Don't you Know that even an Hatefool atheist fool as David Hume was able to demonstrate tha not only free will is possible in conjunction with determinsim, but requires determinism?

[Isabella Abbey]

Re: The Holy Noodle

I ... but being italian, andd thus knowing the damage that eating spaghetti has done to our people,

What damage does pasta do to people?

The basis for their logic is the principle of contradiction. Using the logic based on this principle, each philosopher come to different conclusions wich was... well, in contradiction whit conclusions of the other. So secular logic is not consistent whit its own foundation.
Vice Versa, the Bible has just one truth. So the Bible, who deny the usefulness of logic, is more consistent with logic than logic itself.

Ah. I see the font isn't bringing forth clear water. Please disregard my earlier question.

[sr korgul]

Re: The Holy Noodle

What damage does pasta do to people?





Ah. I see the font isn't bringing forth clear water. Please disregard my earlier question.

Yes, it was proved that that a diet based mainly on spahetti, when in conjunction with the exposition to the mediterranan climate, can cause hinder the ability to learn expressing concept in english clearly.

[David Goldman]

Re: The Holy Noodle

I hope that mr Goldman forgives me if I continue arguing after he completly demolished the argouments of the blind noodle worshipper, but being italian, andd thus knowing the damage that eating spaghetti has done to our people, I feel the urge to fight against that abomination.

Please, have at him! Since Noodleboy is pitching meatballs softballs, I don't want to monopolize batting practice

[TinyJay]

Re: The Holy Noodle

Where do I sign up to be a Pastafarian.Long live linguine

[Nobar King]

Re: The Holy Noodle

Where do I sign up to be a Pastafarian.Long live linguine

Maybe you could make your application with alphabet soup!

[TinyJay]

Re: The Holy Noodle

Could I get the Address from this web sight ?

[Nurse Clampett]

Re: The Holy Noodle

but being italian, andd thus knowing the damage that eating spaghetti has done to our people, I feel the urge to fight against that abomination.

This is true. Spaghetti is a known source of harmful triglycerides which lead to clogged arteries and the sad malady, Assus Fattus.
As a Christian and a nurse, I can see no good coming out of worshiping a flying carbohydrate.

[Isabella Abbey]

Re: The Holy Noodle

This is true. Spaghetti is a known source of harmful triglycerides

Wha..?



May I please differ? Happily, the only harmful thing about spaghetti is that you MIGHT go into a happiness coma lasting anywhere from an hour to overnight.