[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

To really stump an atheist is to love and show kindness to them. At least that seems to be the biggest reason I know of people becoming atheists is due to more experiences with condensing hipocratical christians then loving christians.

The trouble is, an atheist doesn't recognize Christian love when it sees it. You try and tell them about how Jesus wants to cleanse them of their sins and perversions with His blood, and they just mock His temporary sacrifice on the cross.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

You try and show them how God created hell in order to show His love for mankind, and they just mock.

Rom. 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

You try and teach them what happens when God is mocked (eternity in hellfire) and they just mock some more.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

The atheist is in league with satan. They may not admit it, but God knows that they are.

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

[Matchbox_On_Fire]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Alien life is possible. But even if it isn't, not all atheists think there is life out side of Earth. This won't stump them at all.

To really stump an atheist is to love and show kindness to them. At least that seems to be the biggest reason I know of people becoming atheists is due to more experiences with condencing hipocratical christians then loving christians.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Wrong. The idea of alien life is based upon a scientific premise, the existence of God is not.

If God doesn't exist how do you explain cucumbers or The Bible?

[eliot mayfield]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

I thought this was an amputation thread.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Wrong. The idea of alien life is based upon a scientific premise, the existence of God is not.

You have proof of alien life? I thought scientists were still looking?

At least we have the Bible and the Biblical teachings that have stood up to the test for thousands of years.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Wrong. The idea of alien life is based upon a scientific premise, the existence of God is not.

God's existence is proved by the Holy Bible.

[True Disciple]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Wrong. The idea of alien life is based upon a scientific premise, the existence of God is not.

That's a pretty stupid thing to say. The most Scientific Book of the world is entirely about God existing.

[Draxzar]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Wrong. The idea of alien life is based upon a scientific premise, the existence of God is not.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Dear Drunken Papist Mick;

#1) Stop derailing our thread topics. While it is certainly true that Mary-worshiping Catholics are not Christians, I wouldn't classify them as atheists. The pope is the antichrist, which is quite a different thing.

#2) Ever heard of John the BAPTIST? He was the first Christian, and Baptists are the original Christians.

#3) Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your papist "church", and why you prefer to worship Jesus' mommy instead of Jesus.

[True Disciple]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Well, Peter was a Catholic, Cathlyck. Your ignorance does not fail to amuse me.

What madness is this? As I've said before, he didn't worship crackers, idols or an old pedophile in Rome. He was as much a catholic as he was a taoist. Stop being stupid and insulting God.

As I stated earlier, I use The Holy Bible.

If you use the True Bible, why don't you do what it says?

And I haven't been spreading any messages of any sorts, I'm not trying to convert anyone here, I'm trying to give my two cents on this entire ordeal.

I can't remember anyone asking the opinion of a confused idol-worshipper on these matters. Again, this is not a debate forum. You are being obstructive to True Christians™ who want to worship the Lord here. Please accept Christ or get out of here.

It does make perfect sense, you are just too narrow-minded to see any logic.

No, it doesn't. It may seem so to you, but that's because you, being a retard, are unable to discern reason from insanity. You may think that retard mongoloids are normal people, but that's because you are a retard mongoloid yourself.

Catholics do not worship crackers, they worship God.

They say that God is a cracker, so they either worship both or worship neither.

Proof or it didn't happen.

I already showed you some. But if you really want to:

Matthew 10:34-36:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luke 14:26:
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

John 8:44:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matthew 23:13-33:
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

All of which are Jesus' own words. How can you possibly deny all of this?

You have nothing to validate ANYTHING you say, besides YOUR version of the Bible, and BIASED websites.

I have the Word of God. If that doesn't validate my words, what does? You haven't provided anything to back up your words, not a single letter of Scripture. You seem to think that just saying: "no, I'm right, you are wrong," wins you your argument. It doesn't.

[Nobar King]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Maybe you could try using the quote feature?
I made this video just for you:

[Nirvana]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Well, Peter was a Catholic, Cathlyck. Your ignorance does not fail to amuse me.

What Bible do you use, seeing that you insist on spreading unbiblical messages on these forums?
As I stated earlier, I use The Holy Bible. And I haven't been spreading any messages of any sorts, I'm not trying to convert anyone here, I'm trying to give my two cents on this entire ordeal.

What you say doesn't make sense, so you're rambling. You worship crackers, so you're a heathen. It's as easy as that. Why are you stupid? Uh, yes. Was this meant as a confirmation that you are indeed completely retarded? Because if it was, it was very convincing.

It does make perfect sense, you are just too narrow-minded to see any logic. Catholics do not worship crackers, they worship God. I'm not stupid, nor am I retarded.

is entirely false.
Proof or it didn't happen. I really don't see how you can argue this. You have nothing to validate ANYTHING you say, besides YOUR version of the Bible, and BIASED websites.

I will say one thing though, that is true around the world: Members of any given religion feel that theirs is the ONLY path to righteousness, and anybody else, regardless of religious views, will be condemned to Hell.

That is the only thing that I feel we can come to terms with. So I do apologize for "ranting" and being "retarded" It's just how I am, if I feel strongly about something, I will fight for it. With that being said, I am parting with this forum and wish you all good luck in your journey of life. Maybe one day, religious views will be put aside and the fighting can stop.

[True Disciple]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Um, Catholicism was the first form of Christianity, if I remember correctly, which I do.

No, you do not. Peter and Paul and James weren't cathlycks, they didn't worship crackers, saints or an old pedophile in Rome. Catholicism is the most modern form of sun worship.

We do not worship Mary, we only pray to her.

That's like saying "I didn't kill him, I've ended his life." Who do you think you're fooling?

Have you ever bothered to even open the Bible?

Why yes I have, it's titled Holy Bible, not "Generic Numbering and Lettering Bible" as the one you read out of.

What are you talking about? We only use the KJV. What Bible do you use, seeing that you insist on spreading unbiblical messages on these forums?

rambling heathen:

I really don't see how I'm rambling either, nor do I see how I am a heathen. Please explain. You shouldn't judge someone that A) you don't even know, or You've only heard a few things from them.

What you say doesn't make sense, so you're rambling. You worship crackers, so you're a heathen. It's as easy as that. Why are you stupid?

Why do you prefer ritual cannibalism over Salvation™?

I don't see where ritual cannibalism fits into all of this. Again, please explain.

Your religion consists of magically turning crackers into Jesus, and than eating Jesus. It's called "eucharist," in case you forgot. It's ritual cannibalism in every sense of the word.

This is exactly Brother David's point. According to the definition of "alien," God is an alien. You cannot believe in aliens without believing in God.

Scientologists also feel that God is an alien, maybe the Baptist Church should join forces with them.

Don't be stupid. Scientologists believe in thetans, which have no biblical support, and teach that the earth is older than 6000 years. Scientology is diametrically opposed to the Teachings of Jesus.

retarded mongoloid kid?

Well, seeing as both the word "retard" and "mongoloid" mean the same thing, retard, I'm going to take it as a double negative, when put together without a comma in between the two to separate your description of me. Thus, this means that you called me a "retarded retard" or being "retarded at being retarded" so i'm perfectly normal in your eyes, thank you.

Uh, yes. Was this meant as a confirmation that you are indeed completely retarded? Because if it was, it was very convincing.

I'm really not trying to fight with you guys, I just don't see why you can't respect others' opinions. If you really feel that "God will smite them for not being 'True Christians,'" let them be, it is not up to you, but God himself.

I didn't think so, boy. Scripture teaches the following:

Ezekiel 3:18:
When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

And about us "letting you be," we normally do, but when you start debating on forums which have the purpose to be a place of worship for True Christians™, you'll get a reaction, of course. That's your fault, not ours. Please make amends by introducing yourself in the Introduction Forum, as forum rules require.

I will admit, however, that God was willingly able to show his wrath throughout the Old Testament, but now I feel that the whole basis of Christianity is forgiving others. It is what Jesus Christ did throughout his entire life.

1. God is eternal, and doesn't change. The God that killed an entire planet except a chosen few during Noah's Flood is still the same God we worship nowadays.
2. As I already proved before with Scripture, your view of both God and Christianity as a pussy, let's-hug-each-other hippie religion is entirely false.

[Nirvana]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Um, Catholicism was the first form of Christianity, if I remember correctly, which I do. We do not worship Mary, we only pray to her.

Have you ever bothered to even open the Bible?
Why yes I have, it's titled Holy Bible, not "Generic Numbering and Lettering Bible" as the one you read out of.

rambling heathen:
I really don't see how I'm rambling either, nor do I see how I am a heathen. Please explain. You shouldn't judge someone that A) you don't even know, or You've only heard a few things from them.

Why do you prefer ritual cannibalism over Salvation™?
I don't see where ritual cannibalism fits into all of this. Again, please explain.

This is exactly Brother David's point. According to the definition of "alien," God is an alien. You cannot believe in aliens without believing in God.
Scientologists also feel that God is an alien, maybe the Baptist Church should join forces with them.

retarded mongoloid kid?
Well, seeing as both the word "retard" and "mongoloid" mean the same thing, retard, I'm going to take it as a double negative, when put together without a comma in between the two to separate your description of me. Thus, this means that you called me a "retarded retard" or being "retarded at being retarded" so i'm perfectly normal in your eyes, thank you.

I'm really not trying to fight with you guys, I just don't see why you can't respect others' opinions. If you really feel that "God will smite them for not being 'True Christians,'" let them be, it is not up to you, but God himself. I will admit, however, that God was willingly able to show his wrath throughout the Old Testament, but now I feel that the whole basis of Christianity is forgiving others. It is what Jesus Christ did throughout his entire life.

[Nobar King]

Re: How to Stump an Atheist!

Re: How to Stump an Atheist?

How about an axe?