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  • Aformerbaptist
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    • Mar 2010
    • 90

    #16
    Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

    Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
    You keep jumping from post to post calling all of us ignorant. Instead of changing subjects could you please answer some of the questions given to you.

    Are you an atheist because you have proof there's no God? Or are you an atheist because it makes your Baptist parents cry?
    ask away im normally on the other forum. btw im agnostic not atheist

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    • Levi Jones
      Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
      Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
      Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
       
      • Jul 2009
      • 13930

      #17
      Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

      Originally posted by Aformerbaptist View Post
      ask away im normally on the other forum. btw im agnostic not atheist
      Agnostics are the worst. Religion's fence sitters.

      Gosh, maybe I love Jesus maybe I don't.

      Revelation 3:16
      So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
      Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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      • James Dewitt
        #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
        • Jan 2010
        • 6267

        #18
        Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

        Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
        Agnostics are the worst. Religion's fence sitters.

        Gosh, maybe I love Jesus maybe I don't.
        Brother Levi you speak the truth. I asked him why he Hates Jesus. He said that Jesus was just a man that could give a good speech, and that he probably was a Hinidoo or a Mooslim. I see Hell in his not to distant future

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        • Aformerbaptist
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          • Mar 2010
          • 90

          #19
          Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
          Agnostics are the worst. Religion's fence sitters.

          Gosh, maybe I love Jesus maybe I don't.

          Revelation 3:16
          So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
          bullshit. its a learning experience. im not on a fence post leaning on either direction. i use observation and facts to learn about the world around me. i dont hate jesus and he was a good speaker we can all agree on that. i could care less if you think im going to hell because that is your belief and i cant change that. what i can do is to tell you to do a little research on the natural sciences around you and be more open.

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          • Aformerbaptist
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            • Mar 2010
            • 90

            #20
            Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

            Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
            Brother Levi you speak the truth. I asked him why he Hates Jesus. He said that Jesus was just a man that could give a good speech, and that he probably was a Hinidoo or a Mooslim. I see Hell in his not to distant future
            never have i said he was hindu or muslim. you are making up your own bullshit just like your creation evidence.

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            • BelieverInGod
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              • Feb 2010
              • 9269

              #21
              Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

              Originally posted by Aformerbaptist View Post
              never have i said he was hindu or muslim. you are making up your own bullshit just like your creation evidence.
              But you did say Jesus was just a man, therefore you hate him. You hate him so much you're willing to deny his Holy Spirit. If you deny that Jesus was God, you're not an agnostic, you're an atheist.

              Drama queen

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              • James Dewitt
                #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                • Jan 2010
                • 6267

                #22
                Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                Originally posted by Aformerbaptist View Post
                never have i said he was hindu or muslim. you are making up your own bullshit just like your creation evidence.

                no it actually doesnt. it just means we havent found the answer yet. it will probably take thousands of years before we make a huge discovery of our universe. and i dont hate jesus. i believe he was a man that was a very good speaker with very good morals. but my way of thinking goes the same with muslim, hindu, etc. i just dont know about a higher power. it hasnt been proven
                sure looks like you called Him a mooslim or a hinidoo to me

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                • Nathan B. Forrest
                  True Christian™
                  True Christian™
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 394

                  #23
                  Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                  Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                  Do Jews even believe in heaven?
                  If heaven is a bagel and $5 dollar bill...

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                  • Jedediah
                    True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                    Fisher of Men
                    True Christian™
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 6824

                    #24
                    Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                    Romans 11: 17-28
                    17And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
                    18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
                    19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
                    20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
                    21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
                    22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
                    23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
                    24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
                    25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

                    26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and sh
                    all turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
                    27For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
                    28As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

                    ---

                    Revelation 7:1-14

                    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

                    2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
                    3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

                    4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

                    5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
                    6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
                    7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
                    8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
                    9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
                    10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
                    11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
                    12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
                    13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
                    14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
                    ---


                    God’s intent when he made the Jews His chosen people is that they would take God’s Love to all the world. The Jews have not faithfully discharged that responsibility. Why aren’t they on the street evangelizing?

                    Basically, they have been in the doghouse since they killed Jesus (temporarily). But they too will be forgiven! After the Tribulation, of course... Fortunately for Rapture-Ready True Christians™, the wheels have already been set in motion for the End Times in 1948, when the Jews moved back to Israel!

                    The conversion of the Jews described in Revelation 7 will take place at the approach of the Last Judgment and at the height of the persecution which the Antichrist will inflict on the Church. The Jews will, according to all accounts, continue to express their hostility to Christ until the moment of their conversion. These 144,000 will be among Jesus' most effective messengers, and thousands more will die in the battle of Armageddon. Thus, the Jews will play a pivotal role in the Return of Christ, whether they like it or not!

                    Until the Jews accept Jesus Christ as their personal LORD and Savior, they will continue to be incomplete, stunted, and inadequate beings, unworthy of Heaven. But there is Good News!! Jews can convert now and get Raptured with us True Christians™ and not have to go through the Tribulations, which draw ever closer. They just have to turn away from their blindness and get right with the LORD.

                    II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                    And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                    The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                    • Aformerbaptist
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 90

                      #25
                      Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                      "but my way of thinking goes the same with muslim, hindu, etc. i just dont know about a higher power. it hasnt been proven"

                      you took it out of context. my thinking is the same with hindu, muslim, judaism, christianity, etc. i just dont know. and being agnostic doesnt mean a deluded form of atheism, ive obviously offended all of you and dont care. unlike what the cartoon portrays as. its that you cannot prove to me a god so i dont know if there is one. do some research

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                      • Jedediah
                        True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                        Fisher of Men
                        True Christian™
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 6824

                        #26
                        Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                        It sounds like you are the one who needs to do some research, Mr. Formerbaptist. I'd suggest a few days in the prayer closet getting back in touch with the faith your parents no doubt tried to impress upon you by researching the Bible (KJV 1611) cover to cover. It's not too late to overcome that demon called Doubt!
                        II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                        And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                        In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                        Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                        The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                        • Jimmy C Lombardo
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                          Forum Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 218

                          #27
                          Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                          Jews are really lame. Their religion is like actually going into McDonalds and standing in the longest line-up and having to order with Shaquisha and havin' to ask her to repeat back your order 3 times because she has such a thick negress accent.

                          Why waste your time?

                          By virtue of Jesus, Christians get the luxuries and fast-track through the drive thru!

                          Those Jews have no clue what they missin' out on.

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                          • Oakland "Reb" Griner
                            True Christian™
                            True Christian™
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2241

                            #28
                            Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                            Something else on this matter:

                            God does not hear the prayer of any Jew, so how could any Jew get into heaven ??


                            ?
                            Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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                            • James Dewitt
                              #63 on Forbes'...but #1 in Jesus's Heart
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 6267

                              #29
                              Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                              Originally posted by Aformerbaptist View Post
                              "but my way of thinking goes the same with muslim, hindu, etc. i just dont know about a higher power. it hasnt been proven"

                              you took it out of context. my thinking is the same with hindu, muslim, judaism, christianity, etc. i just dont know. and being agnostic doesnt mean a deluded form of atheism, ive obviously offended all of you and dont care. unlike what the cartoon portrays as. its that you cannot prove to me a god so i dont know if there is one. do some research
                              Now you are saying Jesus was a Jew, man Satan is stoking the fires of Hell just for you!

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                              • Aformerbaptist
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                                • Mar 2010
                                • 90

                                #30
                                Re: Are jews gonna go to heaven

                                Originally posted by James Dewitt View Post
                                Now you are saying Jesus was a Jew, man Satan is stoking the fires of Hell just for you!
                                you are an idiot. i mean i think all religions have their flaws and i just dont know if they are right if any of them are right. and he was a jew

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