[GOD=life]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

So let's see how an atheist reponds to Brother Hand's well-reasoned reponse...

blar blar blar blar blar..... wow your mouthy, couldn't you have just said "god gives us freedom and your wrong?"

Sarcasm and arrogance. A personal attack is a fallacy, friend.

I highly doubt you know your religion is 100% based on fact and other religions aren't.

Fallacy: argument from incredulity.

Please get your facts right.

Which facts might those be? You certainly aren't bringing anything to the table. Fallacies aren't facts!

Your belief is a small part in our giant world, how does it feel to have the "right way of thinking" only being broadcast to a minority.

Fallacy: ad populum. By your logic, Einstein should have just shut up about his theory of relativity. Good thing that intelligent people don't listen to you.

That nearly the world population do not know of your religion?

False: Christianity is well-known in the world, particularly in America and in America, Christianity is the dominant religion. Also, America is the most powerful country in the world. It's because it's a Christian nation.

And please stop quoting the bible as a way to prove i'm wrong. It just proves i'm right.

False. Even if we agreed the Bible cannot be used as a factual reference, then you would still not be automatically proven right. The statements would merely be inconclusive, but not therefore false.

Put in simpler terms: if I argue that 1+1=2 because of the Bible, will you refuse to acknowledge that 1+1=2?

Because it shows all your information comes from one source never adapting to our new ways of thinking

Science holds that the entire universe came from a single source (the Big Bang). Are you now going to argue that Big Bang theory is incorrect?

But really: what's your source then? Oh wait, your single source is your own opinion.

The Bible has been verified with historical records, witness accounts and scientific experiments. It is the only historical reference that has survived each and every test put against it.

In simpler terms: we follow the KJV 1611 Bible because all the evidence out there shows that it's true.

[Cranky Old Man]

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blar blar blar

I think this summarizes everything you have said so far very well.

[shrimp]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

I heard a great quote today
"So what if I'm going to Hell, at least all my friends are going with me"

[GOD=life]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

I heard a great quote today
"So what if I'm going to Hell, at least all my friends are going with me"

Your friends can't turn the temperature of Hell down. You'll still burn and suffer horrible pains.

[Ex-Pagan]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

Atheists are some of the biggest fundies I've ever met. They just can't accept that some people are Christian. Whats worse is when they will only talk to people who they can start a debate with. Whats up with them, really????

[Oompa-loompa]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

Atheists are some of the biggest fundies I've ever met. They just can't accept that some people are Christian. Whats worse is when they will only talk to people who they can start a debate with. Whats up with them, really?

You know how the things are? You Christians can't understand that if somebody is Atheist, then he doesn't worship anything. Atheists are those who don't believe in anything "supernatural". We (Atheists) are not worshipping satan. Some Atheists don't even believe in science! No afterlife, no hell, no heaven and no Jesus. Usually you guys think that all Atheists believe in Darwinism, but that is not correct.

[Oompa-loompa]

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And we don't hate God/Jesus because we don't believe in that kind of stuff.

[Colbert Mcpherson]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

You hate God, Jesus and "that kind of stuff" by not believing in him in the first place. Anyone who is not a True Christian™ must be counted as against the LORD, thus, Atheism=SATANISM.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

You know how the things are? You Christians can't understand that if somebody is Atheist, then he doesn't worship anything. Atheists are those who don't believe in anything "supernatural". We (Atheists) are not worshipping satan. Some Atheists don't even believe in science! No afterlife, no hell, no heaven and no Jesus. Usually you guys think that all Atheists believe in Darwinism, but that is not correct.

While I am not a Christian, I know the TRUTH there is a God and it is The Flying Spaghetti Monster, the teachings of the CoFSM show us that you are wrong to reject the supernatural.

Toward a New SuperScience

WE ARE ENTERING INTO AN EXCITING TIME, when no longer will science be limited to natural explanations. Who is to say that there aren’t supernatural forces—magic, some might call it—at work, controlling events around us? Propelled by popular opinion and local government, science is quickly becoming receptive to all logical theories, natural and supernatural alike. Not since the Middle Ages have we seen such open- minded science policy.

What is science, really? Some might call it the observat ional, descriptive, experimental, and theoretical explanation of phenomena. And so, not surprisingly, there are a few who argue that supernatural theories have no place in science, since they make no testable claims about the world. But that idea is a little shortsighted. Science is also a collection of tools whose purpose is to enable mankind to solve problems. In this sense, supernatural—or magic, metaphysical, not real, what have you—theories have the potential to be just as helpful, if not more helpful, than the standard natural-only science we’ve used for the last two hundred years.

Extending the science tool metaphor further, shouldn’t we endeavour to give scientists the largest collection of tools possible? No one is saying that they have to apply a supernatural explanation to any particular phenomenon, only that the supernatural be available if nothing else works, or if it is convenient for deceptive political purposes. And remember, this is not a radical new idea. In terms of years in use, supernatural science—SuperScience, if you will—has the edge on conventional science. Conventional, or empirical, science has been in use for only a few hundred years. Obviously there must be a reason supernatural science lasted so long, before this empirical-science fad began. Could it be that supernatural science is more productive than empirical science?

Consider the discovery and development of new land, an important scientific pursuit by anyone’s standard. If we compare a period of time in which supernatural science was the norm—say the years A.D. 14001 to 1600, to a period of time in which empirical science was preferred—say the years 1800 to 2000—we can get a clear picture of just how detrimental empirical science can be.

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Here, empirical science comes up short even with every technological advantage it possesses. Even with satellite imagery and GPS navigation, scientists bound by the chains of empiricism have been unable to discover even a paltry 3 percent of the amount of new land that their supernatural— science counterparts found in an equal period of time. Scientists and explorers in the years 1400— 1600 had few maps, only a compass, cross-staff, or astrolabe for navigation, and no motorized transportation. Yet even with these setbacks, they still managed to discover more than 14 million square kilometres of new, developable land. Clearly their openness to supernatural forces had something to do with their success, and we can only guess that they were guided to these newfound lands by some creature—most likely the Flying Spaghetti Monster, as historical art suggests.

It’s only logical to assume that returning to balanced methods of science—natural theories and supernatural theories both—would allow us to find more land, something we greatly need for our growing population. More land means more resources, and more resources means fewer starving children. I can safely say, then, that anyone against the inclusion of supernatural theories into science wants children to starve. Such people obviously have no place in policymaking, and so I suggest that they get no say on the issue.

[Oompa-loompa]

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You hate God, Jesus and "that kind of stuff" by not believing in him in the first place.

Hatred (or hate) is an intense feeling of dislike. I don't feel any dislike feelings about God or Jesus. You are mixing hate with something else.

Anyone who is not a True Christian™ must be counted as against the Lord, thus, Atheism=SATANISM.

First of all:
Satanism is a direction and a school of religious beliefs that comprise a number of related ideologies and philosophical beliefs and social phenomena. They share the feature of symbolism, traditions, veneration or admiration of Satan or/and similar figures or personifications of powers or ideologies.
Second of all:
Atheism is not believing to supernatural things. So I don't think that Satan exists so there is no way that I'm a Satanist. I don't admire Satan or/and similar figures or personifications of powers or ideologies. You are again mixing some words in your head. And Satanism is not "hating god" it's "worshipping Satan".

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

Hatred (or hate) is an intense feeling of dislike. I don't feel any dislike feelings about God or Jesus. You are mixing hate with something else.


First of all:
Satanism is a direction and a school of religious beliefs that comprise a number of related ideologies and philosophical beliefs and social phenomena. They share the feature of symbolism, traditions, veneration or admiration of Satan or/and similar figures or personifications of powers or ideologies.
Second of all:
Atheism is not believing to supernatural things. So I don't think that Satan exists so there is no way that I'm a Satanist. I don't admire Satan or/and similar figures or personifications of powers or ideologies. You are again mixing some words in your head. And Satanism is not "hating god" it's "worshipping Satan".

Don't try and dance around the truth. With God it's either love or hatred.

Matthew 12:30:
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

[James Dewitt]

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Don't try and dance around the truth. With God it's either love or hatred.

Amen, Pastor, and I know what side of God I want to be on, His good side.

[Oompa-loompa]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

That has nothing to do with Love or Hatred. Being against something is not same as hating.

[Colbert Mcpherson]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

That has nothing to do with Love or Hatred. Being against something is not same as hating.

Is Satan's heavy routine of sexual abuse destroying the dregs of your warped brain?

Being against something is by definition, a dislike (to put it extremely mildly!) And as we know, with the LORD, there are no half measures. Either accept your own mental incompetence at being unable to understand the simple truths of God and life, or burn in Hell for the rest of eternity as you pleasure your so-called "dark lord".

[Oompa-loompa]

Re: Atheists aren't out to get you

Being against something is by definition, a dislike.

Being against something is not the same as dislike. If I'm against something, I don't accept it or I would not want it my self.
For example: I'm against drunk driving. But it doesn't mean that I hate drunk driving or the drivers. Many Atheists are very peaceful people.