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  • Goats
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    What God has said to me in prayer.

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  • Brother MoJo
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    I believe he provides a trustworthy way for us to understand him yes. Just not in the KJV.
    Friend you are correct in pointing out that the KVJ was translated. But consider this: this translation was done under the supervision of God Himself by people under the influence of God Himself! He would not let error slip into His book. The KJV is the only English version necessary because God got it right the first time. God not only kept it inerrant but all translations leading up to translating it into the Divine Language of English.

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  • Pastor Al E Pistle
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    I believe he provides a trustworthy way for us to understand him yes. Just not in the KJV.
    And what is that belief based upon?

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  • Goats
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    I believe he provides a trustworthy way for us to understand him yes. Just not in the KJV.

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    I am showing you that the KJV is not original and dictated. It is indeed translated.
    Of course it was translated. You act like this is some sort of news. This is a non-sequitur.

    You never answered an earlier question of mine. Do you believe that God is so inept that He cannot provide us with a trustworthy way to learn about Him?

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • Goats
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    I am showing you that the KJV is not original and dictated. It is indeed translated.

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Yes, we see that you are capable of copying and pasting from Wikipedia. What is your point? Are you trying to show Pastor Al that you aren't as computer illiterate as you seem to be, because you know how to copy and paste?

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • Goats
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    Textus Receptus (Latin: "received text") is the name subsequently given to the succession of printed Greek texts of the New Testament which constituted the translation base for the original German Luther Bible, for the translation of the New Testament into English by William Tyndale, the King James Version, and for most other Reformation-era New Testament translations throughout Western and Central Europe. The series originated with the first printed Greek New Testament to be published; a work undertaken in Basel by the Dutch Catholic scholar and humanist Desiderius Erasmus in 1516, on the basis of some six manuscripts, containing between them not quite the whole of the New Testament. Although based mainly on late manuscripts of the Byzantine text-type, Erasmus's edition differed markedly from the classic form of that text.

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  • Pastor Al E Pistle
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    Pastor, you don't actually prove that God dictated the Bible to some guy who wrote the KJV. You merely say that there is enough for everyone in the world
    Your post didn't 'disappear". Are you a computer genius too?


    There are three absolute proofs that the Bible was Divinely inspired, but we don't need any of them. The foundation of religion is FAITH and we at Landover Baptist have it ALL!

    PROPHECY. Everyone agrees that all of the 200 or so prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures that foretold the life of Jesus Christ came true; they had a 100% accuracy. Hundreds of other prophecies not related to Jesus have already come true. This could not have happened unless the authors of the Bible were inspired by God.


    BIBLE CODES: (We don't trust them because they were discovered by JOOS, but they are still pretty good proof) Eliyahu Rips at Hebrew University used an Equidistant Letter Sequence (ELS) analysis method to search for hidden Bible codes in the Book of Genesis. They foundmany names, birth dates and death dates imbedded in Genesis of famous Jews who lived millennia after the book was written. Other researchers examined the entire Pentateuch and found descriptions of recent world events and predictions in our future. The codes are a positive proof of biblical inspiration.


    ARCHAEOLOGICAL DATA: In his book "The new evidence that demands a verdict," Josh McDowell quotes a number of archaeologists who maintain that biblical accounts are in total agreement with the archaeological record: "It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a biblical reference."

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  • Brother V
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    The Bible is true in many places, yes.
    Friend, do you believe the God you talk to is the God of the Bible?

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  • Goats
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    The Bible is true in many places, yes. But prophecies are easily brought to being, maybe it's just luck that these ones are correct. I prophesies:
    That the Earth will move for the next 24 hours.
    That you will die one day
    That it will rain soon somewhere
    That someone will get cancer soon
    That a species of animal will die out this year.
    Will they come true...yes they will. Prophesies are easy to MAKE UP. I'm not sayi9ng whther they are or not, just that they can be.

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  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    Pastor, you don't actually prove that God dictated the Bible to some guy who wrote the KJV.
    There is plenty of proof of that.

    The remarkable evidence of fulfilled prophecy is just one case in point. Hundreds of Bible prophecies have been fulfilled, specifically and meticulously, often long after the prophetic writer had passed away.

    There is no other book, ancient or modern, like this. The vague, and usually erroneous, prophecies of people like Jeanne Dixon, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and others like them are not in the same category at all, and neither are other religious books such as the Koran, the Confucian Analects, and similar religious writings. Only the Bible manifests this remarkable prophetic evidence, and it does so on such a tremendous scale as to render completely absurd any explanation other than divine revelation.

    Dr. Nelson Glueck, probably the greatest modern authority on Israeli archeology, has said: "No archeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries."

    Another striking evidence of divine inspiration is found in the fact that many of the principles of modern science were recorded as facts of nature in the Bible long before scientist confirmed them experimentally. A sampling of these would include:

    # Roundness of the earth (Isaiah 40:22)
    # Almost infinite extent of the sidereal universe (Isaiah 55:9)
    # Law of conservation of mass and energy (II Peter 3:7)
    # Hydrologic cycle (Ecclesiastes 1:7)
    # Vast number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22)
    # Law of increasing entropy (Psalm 102:25-27)
    # Paramount importance of blood in life processes (Leviticus 17:11)
    # Atmospheric circulation (Ecclesiastes 1:6)
    # Gravitational field (Job 26:7)

    The remarkable structure of the Bible should also be stressed. Although it is a collection of 66 books, written by 40 or more different men over a period of 2,000 years, it is clearly one Book, with perfect unity and consistency throughout.

    The individual writers, at the time of writing, had no idea that their message was eventually to be incorporated into such a Book, but each nevertheless fits perfectly into place and serves its own unique purpose as a component of the whole. Anyone who diligently studies the Bible will continually find remarkable structural and mathematical patterns woven throughout its fabric, with an intricacy and symmetry incapable of explanation by chance or collusion.

    The one consistent theme of the Bible, developing in grandeur from Genesis to Revelation, is God's great work in the creation and redemption of all things, through His only Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Pastor Billy-Reuben

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  • Goats
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    I support both God AND modern man, because Jesus will one day become one himself.

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  • Brother V
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    Originally posted by Ghost View Post
    Ah! Leviticus, isn't that the book that talks about approving slavery. Are you against that, friends? It's a contradiction of today I think. Also, I'd liek you to know that i do not hate the bible, I just know that there are contradictions found in it.
    Friend, most values of today have nothing to do with the Bible (KJV1611).

    Opposition to slavery
    Equal rights for women
    Equal rights for coloreds
    Freedom of religion
    Freedom of speech/expression

    None of these things have any basis in Biblical values.

    In fact, all of those are in direct opposition to the Bible (KJV1611).

    Now, who do you support? God or modern man?

    YIC
    V

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  • Goats
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    My post 'disappeared' where I said that Pastor hasnt actually proven that the Bible was dictated by God to a man. He has only said there are enough for everyone.

    The 'disappeared' post you are referring to wouldn't happen to be the one directly above this one, would it?
    -Pastor Billy-Reuben
    Last edited by Pastor Billy-Reuben; 10-10-2007, 08:04 PM. Reason: Pointing out the obvious

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