[BelieverInGod]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

This is a pathetic bit of writing. Your knowledge of basic grammar hasn't helped your ability to express yourself, has it?

BTW, there is a golden rule of English grammar. The golden rule is that all the other rules have exceptions to them; and just about everything your schoolteachers told you is crap. The "rules" of grammar you have been taught are rules of thumb designed to help lower-stream students write with a semblance of literacy.

There is no official grammar of English and what grammar books there are contradict each other. English is a living language in a constant state of flux and development. If English didn't change we'd all still be talking and writing the way Chaucer did.

If you really want a basic understanding of how punctuation is used to express meaning, tone, and ideas, start with Fowler's The King’s English, 2nd ed. 1908. But be warned, if you are to make any real progress you will have to discard all the silly bogus knowledge you have already accumulated and start from scratch. This can be hard. It means letting go of cherished notions: but until you accept how pitifully little you know, you will never make any real progress.

Remember that when there is a lot of argument about a word's meaning or spelling or some other form this usually means that a change is taking place.

Finally, let's try to put your post into plain and readable English:
We are fundamentalist baptwit Christians because we accept the authority of the bible in its entirety -- we take all of it literally. If we were to pick and chose those parts of the bible we wanted to take literally and those we didn't, we'd be no better than the many false christians that abound in these dire times.

That is just off the top of my head and is by no means great; but it is much less boring, I reckon, than your tedious codswallop.

Try to get a bit of flow and rhythm into your prose. Try to worry less about the silly punctuation rules you have been spoon fed and concentrate more on saying what you want to in a straightforward conversational fashion.

u think her grammer bad. wat till u c wat i cn do wit grammer,i tink dis b de way i tak 2 u cuz u yel at uders but u don do rulz uself.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

This is a pathetic bit of writing. Your knowledge of basic grammar hasn't helped your ability to express yourself, has it?

BTW, there is a golden rule of English grammar. The golden rule is that all the other rules have exceptions to them; and just about everything your schoolteachers told you is crap. The "rules" of grammar you have been taught are rules of thumb designed to help lower-stream students write with a semblance of literacy.

There is no official grammar of English and what grammar books there are contradict each other. English is a living language in a constant state of flux and development. If English didn't change we'd all still be talking and writing the way Chaucer did.

If you really want a basic understanding of how punctuation is used to express meaning, tone, and ideas, start with Fowler's The King’s English, 2nd ed. 1908. But be warned, if you are to make any real progress you will have to discard all the silly bogus knowledge you have already accumulated and start from scratch. This can be hard. It means letting go of cherished notions: but until you accept how pitifully little you know, you will never make any real progress.

Remember that when there is a lot of argument about a word's meaning or spelling or some other form this usually means that a change is taking place.

Finally, let's try to put your post into plain and readable English:
We are fundamentalist baptwit Christians because we accept the authority of the bible in its entirety -- we take all of it literally. If we were to pick and chose those parts of the bible we wanted to take literally and those we didn't, we'd be no better than the many false christians that abound in these dire times.

That is just off the top of my head and is by no means great; but it is much less boring, I reckon, than your tedious codswallop.

Try to get a bit of flow and rhythm into your prose. Try to worry less about the silly punctuation rules you have been spoon fed and concentrate more on saying what you want to in a straightforward conversational fashion.

OK IT WS FNNY 2 STRT WTH BT EVN I R GTTNG BRD WTH U PTHTC DSPLY OF OF HW FR U CN GT YR HEAD UP INSD YR ARS. FND FRM PDNTS WH WLL CNCNTRT ON HW SMN HS TYPD SMTHNG AND CMPLTLY OVRLOOK WHT TH PRSN IS TRYNG 2 SY CN AT TMS BE VRY PTTY AND ANNYNG.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

u think her grammer bad. wat till u c wat i cn do wit grammer,i tink dis b de way i tak 2 u cuz u yel at uders but u don do rulz uself.

Oh dear. You don't get it do you. It seems I am wasting my breath. Go back and read what I wrote. I am saying that a pedantic obsession with minor points of grammar is a waste of time. Savvy?

No, I don't yell at others for bad grammar. I only yell at those pedants who yell at others. I am not the least bit concerned about apostrophes and other inessential points (pun intended).

No, I don't do rules because there are no rules. But I don't think you understand what is going on here.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

OK IT WS FNNY 2 STRT WTH BT EVN I R GTTNG BRD WTH U PTHTC DSPLY OF OF HW FR U CN GT YR HEAD UP INSD YR ARS. FND FRM PDNTS WH WLL CNCNTRT ON HW SMN HS TYPD SMTHNG AND CMPLTLY OVRLOOK WHT TH PRSN IS TRYNG 2 SY CN AT TMS BE VRY PTTY AND ANNYNG.

You don't get it either. I am saying that an obsession with correcting people on such minor points as apostrophes, etc, is an annoying waste of time, because it is the communication that matters.

You are correct that concentrating on these minor matters -- such as whether someone has misplaced an apostrophe -- is silly, and overlooks what the person is trying to say. That's exactly the point I'm making.

Go back and read what I wrote carefully, and, when you understand it, then comment.

The people I'm attacking are the likes of Boobar and Handmaiden, who are grammar pedants.

You have the whole thing back to front, Jennifer. If you understood what I had written, you'd realize that we are on the same side.

Either you haven't read my posts at all, or you have a monumental comprehension problem.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

OK IT WS FNNY 2 STRT WTH BT EVN I R GTTNG BRD WTH U PTHTC DSPLY OF OF HW FR U CN GT YR HEAD UP INSD YR ARS. FND FRM PDNTS WH WLL CNCNTRT ON HW SMN HS TYPD SMTHNG AND CMPLTLY OVRLOOK WHT TH PRSN IS TRYNG 2 SY CN AT TMS BE VRY PTTY AND ANNYNG.

I am afraid you overdid the tomato sauce thing again. You are making even less sense than usual here.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

u think her grammer bad. wat till u c wat i cn do wit grammer,i tink dis b de way i tak 2 u cuz u yel at uders but u don do rulz uself.

No, no, no, no, I don't think her grammar is bad at all. I'll try to explain it in simple terms: I think she focuses too much on grammar and not enough on more important aspects of communication.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

You have the whole thing back to front, Jennifer. If you understood what I had written, you'd realize that we are on the same side.

Either you haven't read my posts at all, or you have a monumental comprehension problem.

Unlikely. She is on God's side, you are a servant of Satan.

[Jo Freddie]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

You don't get it either. I am saying that an obsession with correcting people on such minor points as apostrophes, etc, is an annoying waste of time, because it is the communication that matters.

You are correct that concentrating on these minor matters -- such as whether someone has misplaced an apostrophe -- is silly, and overlooks what the person is trying to say. That's exactly the point I'm making.

Go back and read what I wrote carefully, and, when you understand it, then comment.

The people I'm attacking are the likes of Boobar and Handmaiden, who are grammar pedants.

You have the whole thing back to front, Jennifer. If you understood what I had written, you'd realize that we are on the same side.

Either you haven't read my posts at all, or you have a monumental comprehension problem.

Sir, unlike many here I will put my hands up and admit when I have made a mistake, I apologise to you unreservedly.

May your Pasta never be soggy and you feel the touch of his Noodly Appendage.

(note to those that would jump on the Noodly Appendage bit, this is in no way sexual, we are all touched by The Lord Noodle but many are not aware of the fact)

[Lisa H]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Since she is confusing aviator with avatar and probably hasn't heard of The Aviator, your attempt at humour will probably be lost on her. And shouldn't you be spending more time attempting to bring people to Christ and con them into tithing, instead of indulging in all this frivolity? Have you taken your eyes off Jesus?

Of course I have a sense of humor. Kindly keep your opinions of me to yourself.
A former Queen of England was famously known for saying, "We are not amused".

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Sir, unlike many here I will put my hands up and admit when I have made a mistake, I apologise to you unreservedly.

May your Pasta never be soggy and you feel the touch of his Noodly Appendage.

(note to those that would jump on the Noodly Appendage bit, this is in no way sexual, we are all touched by The Lord Noodle but many are not aware of the fact)

Thank you sir. Accepted.

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Unlikely. She is on God's side, you are a servant of Satan.

Well, same side when it comes to disliking grammar pedants.

And aren't there occasions when the sons of darkness are wiser than the children of light? Especially when dealing with their own kind?

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Of course I have a sense of humor. Kindly keep your opinions of me to yourself.
A former Queen of England was famously known for saying, "We are not amused".

Exactly. Queen Victoria wasn't noted for her sense of humour or worldly wisdom.

[Lisa H]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Exactly. Queen Victoria wasn't noted for her sense of humour or worldly wisdom.

Once again Mr. Hairy Homer, you have missed the point. I asked you kindly to keep your opinions of me to yourself. The Queen Victoria saying, was to re-enforce the point that I am not happy with your comments about me. It is with common courtesy for someone to reply with an acknowledgement with the request, either for or against.

[Sister Charli]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Would anyone object if we put away the red marking pens and stopped correcting each other's English and instead used our energies to Praise Jesus?

[Hairy Homer]

Re: how do yall consider yourself christian

Would anyone object if we put away the red marking pens and stopped correcting each other's English and instead used our energies to Praise Jesus?

I have not the slightest objection to putting away the red marking pens, not the slightest!

That is exactly the point I have been trying to make, my dear -- that picking on such trivial matters as misplaced apostrophes and arguing over whether one should or should not have used a comma here or there is tiresome and puerile.

We all make slips now and again; and, anyway, the whole business of what is "correct" or "incorrect" is open to debate.