[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

I just want you to realize that we can have peace, but it will never happen if you don't let it. Peace is a good thing, is it not?
It is never going to come from trying to get others to believe what you believe (I don't mean to be a buzzkill, but it's never going to happen), but if we just learn to let each other live how we want to live there will still be a chance.

Jesus begs to differ, pal.

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division.--Luke 12:51

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Why would you say "friends, like Hitler and Stalin" Hitler and Stalin both had severe mental issues not relating to their religion.

I just want you to realize that we can have peace, but it will never happen if you don't let it. Peace is a good thing, is it not?
It is never going to come from trying to get others to believe what you believe (I don't mean to be a buzzkill, but it's never going to happen), but if we just learn to let each other live how we want to live there will still be a chance.

[GOD=life]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

Hate everyone who denies God? You're going to HATE me just because I don't believe what you believe?

No, we feel sad for you and have to cry a little bit. Because we will all to to Heaven and you will be in Hell.

I just want you to realize that not every atheist is a horrible, human race-hating, jerkoff, not every homosexual is an AIDS-ridden pile of waste, etc.

Not every atheist may be a horrible person, but every horrible person is an atheist. Like your friends Hitler and Stalin.

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

"some examples of things that conscience and empathy tell me are ok, but the Bible clearly states as being wrong"
If it's so 'wrong' why is there nothing actually wrong with it?
What is wrong with being happy?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

a beezy fight is a bitch fight i was tryin to censor myself but uh i read the top half of ur post and lik it sounds lik ur just instantly trying to disprove wat they said lik it was nothing, lik u didnt take the time to respond just make fun of somthing they said and completely missed the subject, no offense, but uh i mean im kinda athiest i dont believe in church however i do belive in god XD, i believe that life is a gift and we should live it how we want to (and if u wanna live it the church way fine, more power to you) but wat i dislike is wen others push there beliefs on others (i dont mean u personally), lik how i was reading this one about woman and thier role, and how they shud do certain things, uh thats great if u can find women lik that and stuffs but wen ppl lik organize lik the kkk etc and try to, u kno kick blacks outta voting, or kick homosexuals outta the army, or tell women wat they can or cant do im lik hey hey hey... u kno worry about urself, handle ur own business this is a free country not 'gods' country (i know imma get yelled at for that remark XP) and well i grew up believing i culd believ w/evr i wanted and to me that sounds lik the best plan, ya know...?

Friend, I try not to nitpick at people's spelling and grammar too much, but I do genuinely find you difficult to read in some places. Anyway, did you create this country? No, God did, therefore it's his country. You are indeed free to believe whatever you want, but only believing what we tell you to believe will save you from eternal hellfire. That sounds like the best plan to me.

How can you say "Believing in God and the Bible means we have to hate everyone who denies God. That's what the Bible tells us to do."
While also saying that you are "loving and accepting"

We love and accept everyone who is willing to accept our - and God's - love. If people wish to deny God's love, then they deny our love as well.

I really wish you could just set aside your instant reaction to cast aside anything I have to say and tell me I'm WRONG WRONG WRONG, and just think. I'm a human being, you're a human being. There's not much different between us besides the way we were brought up to think.

Hate everyone who denies God? You're going to HATE me just because I don't believe what you believe?
I know I haven't read the Bible, but I have a hard time believing it says to HATE anyone.

Read the Bible. You'll be surprised. It gives instructions for mass murder in several places.

I certainly don't HATE you for believing in God. And I don't even HATE you for being completely closed-minded about my ideas.

All I want is for you to know that just because someone is atheist, or homosexual, doesn't mean that they are a horrible person. Just as I don't view every Christian as a horrible person.
Sure there may be a few horrible people who happen to be atheist, or of a different religion, but that applies to everyone. Being a horrible person isn't determined by belief, or sexual orientation, or even race. Just as being a good person isn't determined by such.

I just want you to realize that not every atheist is a horrible, human race-hating, jerkoff, not every homosexual is an AIDS-ridden pile of waste, etc.

I think you could do with reading this sermon.

Here are some examples of things that conscience and empathy tell me are ok, but the Bible clearly states as being wrong:

• I know a homosexual couple who have been in a committed, monogamous relationship for thirty years. They are honest and hardworking members of the community. They have an adopted son who grew up to be just as normal and well-adjusted as anyone else. They defy every off-the-wall stereotype of gays that the American Family Association has ever thought up. If I relied on my own empathy and conscience, I would probably conclude that homosexuality is ok, and that gay marriage is nothing to be afraid of. I need the Bible to tell me that it is wrong. (Leviticus 20:13 - Brick Testament; Romans 1:26-27)
• In my experience, women seem to be just as intelligent and capable as men. If I relied on my own empathy and conscience, I would probably conclude that women and men are equals and that women deserve just as much dignity and respect as men do. I need the Bible to tell me that women are to be subjugated before men, and that men are to have dominion over women (1 Peter 3:1-6; Ephesians 5:22-24; 1 Timothy 2:11-15).
• I know many nonchristians who live happy, productive lives. They love their families, and they are honest and hardworking. If I relied on my own empathy and conscience, I would probably conclude that it doesn't matter what, if any, religion people follow, and that we should all try to just get along. I need the Bible to tell me that nonchristians are all antichrists (2 John 7) to be shunned (2 Cor.6:14-17), and if they ever try to deconvert a Christian, I am required to kill them. (Dt.13:6-10)

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

How can you say "Believing in God and the Bible means we have to hate everyone who denies God. That's what the Bible tells us to do."
While also saying that you are "loving and accepting"

I really wish you could just set aside your instant reaction to cast aside anything I have to say and tell me I'm WRONG WRONG WRONG, and just think. I'm a human being, you're a human being. There's not much different between us besides the way we were brought up to think.

Hate everyone who denies God? You're going to HATE me just because I don't believe what you believe?
I know I haven't read the Bible, but I have a hard time believing it says to HATE anyone.

I certainly don't HATE you for believing in God. And I don't even HATE you for being completely closed-minded about my ideas.

All I want is for you to know that just because someone is atheist, or homosexual, doesn't mean that they are a horrible person. Just as I don't view every Christian as a horrible person.
Sure there may be a few horrible people who happen to be atheist, or of a different religion, but that applies to everyone. Being a horrible person isn't determined by belief, or sexual orientation, or even race. Just as being a good person isn't determined by such.

I just want you to realize that not every atheist is a horrible, human race-hating, jerkoff, not every homosexual is an AIDS-ridden pile of waste, etc.

Just, please, don't be so quick to judge. I'm not saying that EVERY atheist is a great person. I'm just saying, we're not all what you think we are.

I'm not here to troll, I'm here to spread peace and understanding

[somerandomguy4]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

a beezy fight is a bitch fight i was tryin to censor myself but uh i read the top half of ur post and lik it sounds lik ur just instantly trying to disprove wat they said lik it was nothing, lik u didnt take the time to respond just make fun of somthing they said and completely missed the subject, no offense, but uh i mean im kinda athiest i dont believe in church however i do belive in god XD, i believe that life is a gift and we should live it how we want to (and if u wanna live it the church way fine, more power to you) but wat i dislike is wen others push there beliefs on others (i dont mean u personally), lik how i was reading this one about woman and thier role, and how they shud do certain things, uh thats great if u can find women lik that and stuffs but wen ppl lik organize lik the kkk etc and try to, u kno kick blacks outta voting, or kick homosexuals outta the army, or tell women wat they can or cant do im lik hey hey hey... u kno worry about urself, handle ur own business this is a free country not 'gods' country (i know imma get yelled at for that remark XP) and well i grew up believing i culd believ w/evr i wanted and to me that sounds lik the best plan, ya know...?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

#1 Atheists have no mercy or pity for others.
I am athiest, I have love for all living things.

As an immoral atheist, there's no reason for you to tell the truth, so we can safely assume that you're lying.

#2 To an Atheist a natural disaster is just a random event
A natural disaster is not a 'random' event. There ace causes for what happen.

What causes things to happen? How do you know this?

#4To an atheists there is no difference between an animal and a human
We all breathe, we all live, we all have the same basic functions, and we

And we what? We all fail to finish our sentences? Anyway, you've clearly conceded #4 there.

#5 Only biblical faith offers objective standards of good and evil.
I beg to differ. Even people, who do not believe what the bible says, would be able to tell the difference between 'good' and 'evil'. Which are two very disputable concepts.

We don't dispute them, we know what they are. You think they're disputable because you don't have objective standards of good and evil. Thanks for confirming the truth of #5.

#6 Atheists have no reason to feel pity for anyone or anything.
I would never want to 'carve into' any living being.

Are you a vegan? Or just a hypocrite?

^^^ REALLY? You say "Carving another human being up to them is just like carving a pig." Speak for YOURSELF. YOU are the ones who made this horrible little .gif

Friend, if pigs did 9/11, then I'd be in favour of blowing them up as well.

#7 Threw out human history there have never been any other gods but God.
*Throuought would be the correct term here.

#8 There were false gods, but they were false because they exist within the Universe, not outside it.
Nothing says that they aren't false. Common sense just tells us that they are.

So, you agree that false gods are false. That's a start.

#9 Any religion younger than Christianity is just a copy of Christianity.
That doesn't justify anything.

It certainly doesn't you copying Christianity to invent atheism.

#10 Only Christianity has ever had the idea of an eternal, infinite creator God.
Let's break this word up.
a - the - ism
a: not, without
the: god, deity
ism: the belief in
Atheism: the belief that there is no god
This has nothing to do with anything Christians believe.
This should be a given.

The lack of the idea of an 'eternal, infinite creator god' doesn't make it any more rediculous.

You're right, there's no way atheism could be any more ridiculous.

Some more RACIST and HORRIBLE little animations YOU GUYS have come up with. They show NO tolerance or understanding. They show closed minded-ness, and hostility towards people and living things
<-- do you even know what this is? It is a banana with a Rastafarian wig smoking marijuana.

I have honestly never seen a Rastafarian that looked like that.
Here is a Rastafarian haircut:

Here is that banana's hair:

Are you trying to call Rastafarians clowns? That's pretty racist.

At least I'm putting actual thought into this, and not simply bashing Christians.
I have no problem with them believing in God and The Bible.

What I DO have a problem with is the sheer hate some have for people who don't believe the same.

Believing in God and the Bible means we have to hate everyone who denies God. That's what the Bible tells us to do.

lol beezy fight, but seriously though i mean are there any serious convos on here or is it basically im right ur wrong kinda stuff and then u guys throw childish comebacks back and forth and you kno post events wer ur family can get raped o-o i mean i joined for discussion not pety insults XP if anyone replies to this please think before you post, cus i wont reply to someone whos just gonna spam insults, i mean is that so hard to ask for? tx for understanding XP lol understanding ><

Yes, there are serious conversations that happen here. It's a shame that so many threads are derailed by hateful atheist trolls, but sometimes we do manage to have the kind of discussions these boards are intended for without being interrupted. See here for a good example.
P.S. What is a "beezy fight"?

[somerandomguy4]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism

yay, finally someone gets it XD

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Re

lol beezy fight, but seriously though i mean are there any serious convos on here or is it basically im right ur wrong kinda stuff and then u guys throw childish comebacks back and forth and you kno post events wer ur family can get raped o-o i mean i joined for discussion not pety insults XP if anyone replies to this please think before you post, cus i wont reply to someone whos just gonna spam insults, i mean is that so hard to ask for? tx for understanding XP lol understanding ><

I'm with you on that one

[somerandomguy4]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH your NINE points

typical response when people try to avoid the obvious fact of what they truly are

lol beezy fight, but seriously though i mean are there any serious convos on here or is it basically im right ur wrong kinda stuff and then u guys throw childish comebacks back and forth and you kno post events wer ur family can get raped o-o i mean i joined for discussion not pety insults XP if anyone replies to this please think before you post, cus i wont reply to someone whos just gonna spam insults, i mean is that so hard to ask for? tx for understanding XP lol understanding ><

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Thank you VERY VERY much into proving my point on how intolerant and rascist these people are

At least I'm putting actual thought into this, and not simply bashing Christians.
I have no problem with them believing in God and The Bible.

What I DO have a problem with is the sheer hate some have for people who don't believe the same.



I want this hate to go away.
I want more people to be tolerant.
I want you, the people of this forum, to be more informed about what actually goes on with us atheists.

I don't hate you. I'm not here to bash your beliefs. I'm here to try to spread peace between different religions.

Please just hear me out

[AthiestandProud69]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH your NINE points

Do you and IloveEVERYbeing go to the same preschool?

typical response when people try to avoid the obvious fact of what they truly are

[Lisa H]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH your NINE points

Thank you VERY VERY much into proving my point on how intolerant and rascist these people are

Do you and IloveEVERYbeing go to the same preschool?

[IloveEVERYbeing]

Re: Ten points that CRUSH your NINE points

"We Christians are loving and accepting"
Maybe SOME are, but most that I've seen on this site, are far from it.
I know many VERY loving and accepting christians, and many VERY loving and accepting athiests

YOU few, are the ones who aren't accepting. Being HAPPY that your 6 year old son BEAT UP another 6 year old boy, because you told him the boy was GAY? BECAUSE OF THE COLOR YELLOW?
That is FAR FROM LOVING AND ACCEPTING. And frankly, I can't just look past that