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[RautaKansleri]

I seriously just HAVE to ask this: how can you possibly trust anything that is written in the Bible? I mean, it's written by humans, not God. Humans, that make mistakes. Even if God told the writers of Bible exactly what to write, I'm sure they have made mistakes, and added something of their own. In fact, it was men that did NOT write the Bible, who decided what should be in the Bible. I sincerely want to believe everything that is written there, but I just cannot, because I cannot trust it when someone says that everything in the Bible is the word of God...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I seriously just HAVE to ask this: how can you possibly trust anything that is written in the Bible? I mean, it's written by humans, not God. Humans, that make mistakes. Even if God told the writers of Bible exactly what to write, I'm sure they have made mistakes, and added something of their own. In fact, it was men that did NOT write the Bible, who decided what should be in the Bible. I sincerely want to believe everything that is written there, but I just cannot, because I cannot trust it when someone says that everything in the Bible is the word of God...

Don't trust people, trust God. The Holy KJV bible was dictated directly by God Almighty. Take a look at THIS.

You make mistakes, Jesus doesn't. Get down on your knees and open your heart to Him right now! He'll speak to you, I'm certain.

I'll be praying for you, friend.

[RautaKansleri]

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I trust God. I merely wish I'd find the strength in myself to trust those that say the Bible is His holy word. Until I do, I do not think I can trust the Bible since it's so contradictory, and God Himself hasn't told me that I can trust it... Only humans have told me so. But I shall wait, because If God wants me to trust the Bible, He will tell me to. If not, then I am already unsaved and doomed for damnation. I hope not.

Prayers to all.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I trust God. I merely wish I'd find the strength in myself to trust those that say the Bible is His holy word. Until I do, I do not think I can trust the Bible since it's so contradictory, and God Himself hasn't told me that I can trust it... Only humans have told me so. But I shall wait, because If God wants me to trust the Bible, He will tell me to. If not, then I am already unsaved and doomed for damnation. I hope not.

Prayers to all.

Please feel free to show me each of these so-called contradictions. I'm certain that I or another pastor here can help clear them up.

Also please tell us about yourself. Which denomination do you belong to? You aren't a Christ-killing joo I hope. You do have a wierd name...

[RautaKansleri]

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I am no Christ-killer. I'm a christian myself, from Finland. I can't say that I belong to any church, since I haven't yet found one of my liking, one that could clearly tell me what to do to be saved. Mostly because of my inability to trust the Bible. Contradictions? Well. You guys have yourself gathered quite a lot of them here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=3717. There's a lot of them.

Prayers for you all.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I am no Christ-killer. I'm a christian myself, from Finland. I can't say that I belong to any church, since I haven't yet found one of my liking, one that could clearly tell me what to do to be saved. Mostly because of my inability to trust the Bible. Contradictions? Well. You guys have yourself gathered quite a lot of them here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=3717. There's a lot of them.

Prayers for you all.

Those are "heretic traps", not contradictions. Being an unsaved foriegner, you just can't understand the Bible, that's all.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Do you worship Moomins up there? Those are just sodomite trolls sent by satan to lull you into devil worship.

[RautaKansleri]

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They are contradictions, because they tell the opposite things. You quoted something written by a man, not God. You tell me to believe what MEN have written. You tell me God has told you can trust it. A human tells me God says I can trust the Bible. And, you quoted about satan's lies. How can I trust the Bible isn't one of them? How can I trust YOU aren't lying? Please, tell me, because I wish to believe you. Oh, and we do not worship moomins.

Prayers for you all.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Every single prophecy in the KJV Bible has come true! Take a look at THIS!

No one could fake those.

[RautaKansleri]

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Hmm. Convincing. However, the books in the Bible were chosen whilst some were ruled out. So those choosing them could easily have taken ones with no contradictions to each other. And besides, the "Heretic traps" you've collected ARE contradictions. And the story, or truth, about ous Savior Christ has been recorded by humans. Which makes it untrustworthy to me.
You have, however, strengthened my faith in the Bible and given me a lot to think about. I thank you for that.

Prayers to you all.

[Father Septic Tank (On Moderation)]

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You'll have to forgive this Ezekiel character. He like so many other Christians are in total denial.

You know as well as anyone else that has the ability to read that the BIble is full of contradictions. This is because a lot of the books were written WAY after the stories actually happened.

They will tell you here to use the KJV1611.....which is arguably the WORST version of the Bible that you could use. King James fudged the language big time. IT is not a literal translation.

IF you want to BEST versions of the BIble I would recommend learning Hebrew and reading the Bible.

KJV is rubbish. Anyone that says differently doesn't know a thing about scholarly work.

[Miss Maisie]

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I seriously just HAVE to ask this: how can you possibly trust anything that is written in the Bible? I mean, it's written by humans, not God. Humans, that make mistakes. Even if God told the writers of Bible exactly what to write, I'm sure they have made mistakes, and added something of their own. In fact, it was men that did NOT write the Bible, who decided what should be in the Bible. I sincerely want to believe everything that is written there, but I just cannot, because I cannot trust it when someone says that everything in the Bible is the word of God...

The bible is the one true word. Many have come on this forum spouting nonsense and so-called logic, but we will not be deterred! If a person don't follow the bible, well, then, they don't go to heaven neither. Would you take that chance, and end up screaming in the flame-pit with Papa La Bas?

[RautaKansleri]

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I agree with you, I know it IS full of contradictions even though I haven't even read the whole Bible. I have not yet found any way to trust it. In some books, God is vengeful and unforgiving, yet some other books of the Bible tell us that we merely need to believe in God and regret our sins and we are saved. In fact, something these guys here use a lot is "If you aren't with me, you're against me". I can't remember in which book it was, but strangely, I found somewhere in the Bible a chapter where Jesus says "If you aren't against me, you're with me"... And if THAT isn't a contradiction, I don't know what is...

Prayers to you all.

[RautaKansleri]

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The bible is the one true word. Many have come on this forum spouting nonsense and so-called logic, but we will not be deterred! If a person don't follow the bible, well, then, they don't go to heaven neither. Would you take that chance, and end up screaming in the flame-pit with Papa La Bas?

Oh, right. Again one of these. "The Bible is true because the Bible says so and the Bible is the word of God" and so on, yada yada, I know this. The only person that can make me believe that is God. No human can make me trust a product of humans, because humans are not perfect like God. At least not by saying things like that. Sorry, but that was not convincing.

Ei näin.

Prayers for you all.

[Miss Maisie]

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Oh, right. Again one of these. "The Bible is true because the Bible says so and the Bible is the word of God" and so on, yada yada, I know this. The only person that can make me believe that is God. No human can make me trust a product of humans, because humans are not perfect like God. At least not by saying things like that. Sorry, but that was not convincing.

Ei näin.

Prayers for you all.

Hello, y'all want proof of the bible being the word of God? Read it, sugar!

[RautaKansleri]

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I haven't read it, true. But I've read enough to tell that it is full of contradictions and I know it's written by humans. Truth or not, I can't trust it yet.

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